Michael Delamar Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 We've got pride in our long time Liverpool loco. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Waiting for the tip at Llanfair Caereinion earlier today. ...and setting off for Welshpool. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 A boilersmith climbing into the firebox of a 4-6-0 locomotive to carry out maintenance at the London, Midland & Scottish Railway's Longsight depot in Manchester, 1936.[Text/Photo:LMS] 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I think this will probably have been seen in this thread already but its a favourite from brushveteran he has a few similar shots in his collection. https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6265663137/in/set-72157628051547586/ 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 We've got pride in our long time Liverpool loco. [/url] Just need some pride in our own appearance 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Unloading at Edge Hill today 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Driver George Drew at Rock ferry. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 47224 Maghull 29/07/84 by MagLad, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Unloading at Edge Hill today DSCN0205crop.jpg Lifting bulk bags should always be done with a lifting frame - one bag at a time. Don't allow anybody to do that again. http://www.angliahandling.co.uk/acatalog/Lifting_Beams.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not such a happy posting as we're used to in this thread, but a sobering reminder of the important safety role that front line rail staff still have, despite a greater tendency now I feel for some people to think that "trains drive themselves now" and so on: http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2014/11/10-jail-sentence-for-driver-who.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ive started a new hobby of train driver spotting, basically ive got to catch a photo similar to this one of all of our depots drivers. They have to be in the cab and Ive got about half a dozen so far, I don't really want to post them on the net so this one of me will have to do. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not such a happy posting as we're used to in this thread, but a sobering reminder of the important safety role that front line rail staff still have, despite a greater tendency now I feel for some people to think that "trains drive themselves now" and so on: http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2014/11/10-jail-sentence-for-driver-who.html Rather an unpleasant development in my view - it is the job of railway managers to run teh industry and manage their workforce, not the job of some interfering p*llock from outside the industry who is trying to justify their existence. The Driver was suspended and taken off driving duties - a right, proper, and proportionate punishment for what he did in my view although I say that with no knowledge of his record. Accordingly he has been dealt with in the proper (I trust) disciplinary procedure - so why on earth should he be punished twice for the same thing? Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol - there is proper legal process to deal with that but if he was why does the report not say so. Sorry but I think this sort of 'legal action' tarnishes the integrity of both the railway industry and that of the not so Civil Servant who initiated it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2014 Rather an unpleasant development in my view - it is the job of railway managers to run teh industry and manage their workforce, not the job of some interfering p*llock from outside the industry who is trying to justify their existence. The Driver was suspended and taken off driving duties - a right, proper, and proportionate punishment for what he did in my view although I say that with no knowledge of his record. Accordingly he has been dealt with in the proper (I trust) disciplinary procedure - so why on earth should he be punished twice for the same thing? Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol - there is proper legal process to deal with that but if he was why does the report not say so. Sorry but I think this sort of 'legal action' tarnishes the integrity of both the railway industry and that of the not so Civil Servant who initiated it. I had several instances where staff under my control did things they shouldn't have. Twice BTP were involved but as I took appropriate disciplinary action immediately, much quicker than they could act, they did not instigate any further action. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Parkinson Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Again without knowing all the facts, perhaps the view taken was that the person concerned had acted so negligently and put his or other train passengers and staff at risk of serious harm or death that a prosecution was the appropriate way forward. Presumably the incident following an internal investigation was deemed to be so serious that the case was referred to the ORR. This doesn't seem to be the case of an error of judgement or a simple mistake which could have been dealt with by internal discipline but a complete disregard for the necessary safety procedures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2014 Again without knowing all the facts, perhaps the view taken was that the person concerned had acted so negligently and put his or other train passengers and staff at risk of serious harm or death that a prosecution was the appropriate way forward. Presumably the incident following an internal investigation was deemed to be so serious that the case was referred to the ORR. This doesn't seem to be the case of an error of judgement or a simple mistake which could have been dealt with by internal discipline but a complete disregard for the necessary safety procedures. A SPAD with potentially serious consequences is a reportable incident - it is then up to ORR to consider what has taken place and what has been done in consequence of the incident. There is nothing in the procedure which effectively compels them to prosecute unless the Duty Holder has failed to take action. According to the report linked earlier in this thread the Duty Holder very obviously had taken relevant and appropriate action in respect of a SPAD which was clearly one of blatant disregard - including suspension and taking the Driver off driving duties> I don't think you can get anymore 'relevant' than that, the man ceased to be permitted to drive a train (and might even have been dismissed although we don't know that). In other words he had received both appropriate punishment and action which removed him from the position where he could make a similarly flagrant breach of the Rules in the future - that, effectively was all that was needed because he's out of the driving cab and has also probably been 'fined' through loss of earnings/income. Any disciplinary outcome would have been based on the seriousness of his offence and nowadays I can't see any railway manager allowing something this serious to pass without a severe punishment within the disciplinary procedure. In fact, and procedurally, if his employing train operator had failed to do so it would be them, and not the Driver, who would quite legitimately facing prosecution - for their failure as the Duty Holder. So quite what a court prosecution adds to the Driver's punishment I really don't know - unless there is far more to the case than has been reported 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Ive started a new hobby of train driver spotting, basically ive got to catch a photo similar to this one of all of our depots drivers. They have to be in the cab and Ive got about half a dozen so far, I don't really want to post them on the net so this one of me will have to do. image.jpg Out of interest, when did you take that, Michael? The loco was at Frethun when I went to work last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South of 1E Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Man and mighty machine, Colwyn Bay July 24th 1982 NR 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Checking over Alice at the Leighton Buzzard Narrow Gauge Railway 19/8/1997. Job done! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Simon Lee Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2014 Keeping dry at the Junction 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Man and mighty machine, Colwyn Bay July 24th 1982 NR Always a problem seeing 'right away' on the down platform 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Springs Branch fuel road, March 1994 Tom 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Rather an unpleasant development in my view - it is the job of railway managers to run teh industry and manage their workforce, not the job of some interfering p*llock from outside the industry who is trying to justify their existence. The Driver was suspended and taken off driving duties - a right, proper, and proportionate punishment for what he did in my view although I say that with no knowledge of his record. Accordingly he has been dealt with in the proper (I trust) disciplinary procedure - so why on earth should he be punished twice for the same thing? Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol - there is proper legal process to deal with that but if he was why does the report not say so. Sorry but I think this sort of 'legal action' tarnishes the integrity of both the railway industry and that of the not so Civil Servant who initiated it. In the marine and aviation industries the involvement of "the law" in similar circumstances has been routine for many years now, so no great surprise to see that another form of transport has caught up. Indeed some companies make a point of routinely informing the appropriate DFT department whenever they dismiss an employee for any incident involving professional conduct, which is a bit off considering the burden of proof and evidence for an internal disciplinary offence is rather different to that required by English law for criminal negligence or an OHS offence. However that's the somewhat vicious world we work in today. Edited November 13, 2014 by Bon Accord Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
station cat Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 On a different note, GWR Memorial Paddington, 13th November 2014 The info board that has been placed to the right is a list of the Paddington men killed in the First World War 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Shabby days at Snow Hill (pjs0346) by geoff7918, on Flickr 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Our Jimmy posing at Euston before driving back to Liverpool Lime Street sometime in the early 80s. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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