Miss Prism Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Does that apply for the all the post war GWR express locos (just black cylinders)? The GWR modelling website does not completely say. There's a questionmark over this issue. Apart from the first 4-6-0 County, it seems that lining on express passenger locos was probably simplified compared to the pre-war spec. See: http://www.uksteam.info/wsr/picsc/02032581.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/DSCN2101-earl-bathurst_crop_1200x600.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 There's a questionmark over this issue. Apart from the first 4-6-0 County, it seems that lining on express passenger locos was probably simplified compared to the pre-war spec. See: http://www.uksteam.info/wsr/picsc/02032581.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/DSCN2101-earl-bathurst_crop_1200x600.JPG There isn't a question mark really. I have a copy of the GWR post-war painting schedule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Thanks Coach. Does that specify lining was omitted from: loco valances, tender frames, cylinders, buffer housings, internal cab, and firebox lining over splashers? (And bufferbeam fronts?) (I would appreciate a copy of that post-war painting schedule so that it could be reflected on the GWR Modelling site.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Thanks Coach. Does that specify lining was omitted from: loco valances, tender frames, cylinders, buffer housings, internal cab, and firebox lining over splashers? (And bufferbeam fronts?) (I would appreciate a copy of that post-war painting schedule so that it could be reflected on the GWR Modelling site.) I'm gonna have to get bck to you on this. Embarrassingly I cannot find it....I only came across it the other day while researching for something else on RMweb so it's go to be tucked away inside a book somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted December 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2013 Both my local model shop and the Hattons website are both saying that 'Wellington' is now not due until the 16th December! This is quite galling as it was until very recently pencilled-in to arrive this month, having been absent from Hornby's recently released list of postponed items. Looking at it, we'll be lucky to have out copper-capped mitts on one of these until the turn of the year - when it was originally in Hornby's 2012 catalogue! Surely a two-year delay is a record for a loco with existing tooling? Ah well, back to my decade-old Dunster Castle... CoY I don't think they will get there by tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't think they will get there by tomorrow. When I pre ordered mine from MRD last month, their system was stating Boxing Day... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 When I pre ordered mine from MRD last month, their system was stating Boxing Day... Just in time for the sales....<cough> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted December 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2013 Hattons said they expect them on the 20th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Both my local model shop and the Hattons website are both saying that 'Wellington' is now not due until the 16th December! ... Looking at it, we'll be lucky to have out copper-capped mitts on one of these until the turn of the year - when it was originally in Hornby's 2012 catalogue! Surely a two-year delay is a record for a loco with existing tooling? No, a two-year delay for a new Hornby Castle is not even close to a record. Tintagel Castle was at least that and then some. The B17 wasn't much different either. You'll find that this very thread details the drawn out delays to Tintagel Castle from the time it was ordered (December 2008) to deliveries in the first half of 2011 (~April 2011) - a period well over 24 months. Looking through the thread mine seems to have appeared in June, so about 30 months or so for me. Now it's No, 4073 Caerphilly Castle for me, even at just south of £150. I'm delighted to see an earlier liveried Castle back in the range. I do hope though that Wellington appears first. It would only be fair. And they even have 10-spoked wheels, or at least the pictures do. Edited December 17, 2013 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted December 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2013 No, a two-year delay for a new Hornby Castle is not even close to a record. Tintagel Castle was at least that and then some. The B17 wasn't much different either. Now it's No, 4073 Caerphilly Castle for me, even at just south of £150. I'm delighted to see an earlier liveried Castle back in the range. I do hope though that Wellington appears first. It would only be fair. And they even have 10-spoked wheels, or at least the pictures do. It's in conjunction with the NRM, so some of that probably would be a donation to the NRM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've learnt not to trust anything on Hornby's website, but it would appear Hornby's GW-liveried Wellington is fitted with BR 'curly' steam pipes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 It also appears to have better fit around the frames above the bogie, with less daylight in the area of the inside cylinders etc. Excellent if Hornby have got it as good as the Star in this regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've learnt not to trust anything on Hornby's website, but it would appear Hornby's GW-liveried Wellington is fitted with BR 'curly' steam pipes. It had better not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2013 I've learnt not to trust anything on Hornby's website, but it would appear Hornby's GW-liveried Wellington is fitted with BR 'curly' steam pipes. Lets HOPE it's just an artists impression then.History isn't the case is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2013 It had better not! Wanna bet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) I'm considering placing an order for Caerphilly Castle. Fond memores of her in South Kensington at the Science Museum ... Before I do, is there any proven fix for the upward pointing front running plate and buffers on the Castles? This seems to affect many of these models to a greater or lesser extent, meaning it is more than likely an assembly issue. Any experiential advice appreciated. Edited December 28, 2013 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 In the Star thread there was mention of plastic flash between the front of the body moulding and front chassis, which when checked and cleaned completely removed a small upward tilt in the running plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Hmm OK, does this apply to the castle though? I note that the castle problem seems really only to be on the right hand side, so some form of systematic flash might be the cause. anyone able to verify? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2013 I dread to thing how that one would turn up judging by recent releases I'm guessing they would proberly go for disc wheels on the front bogie, double chimney, devoid of rivet detail, lining applied in the wrong places number plate vertical and SK would say their is nothing wrong with it. That's a bit unfair Bob.Both of my Castles and I have another on order, are just fine.Worth checking before purchases if possible though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Some of us (Londoners) can no longer check before we buy.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2013 Some of us (Londoners) can no longer check before we buy....And you are not alone in that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ok, I'll rephrase the question. When the Castle body is removed from the chassis, does the upward pointing footplate disappear. If so it is clearly an interface issue. If not, it is a (more difficult) body assembly problem. Anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) This is helpful. Well I guess there is always the 'return to retailer' option if it doesn't work... EDIT - coupling hook not installed in factory. However brake pipe is on right hand side, exactly the side with the upward inflection, so that's promising. Edited December 29, 2013 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted April 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2014 Having just acquired a DCC fitted Ince Castle, would it be an ideal donor for 7022 Hereford Castle? That is of course prior to 7022 getting a Hawksworth Tender! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Having just acquired a DCC fitted Ince Castle, would it be an ideal donor for 7022 Hereford Castle? That is of course prior to 7022 getting a Hawksworth Tender! Have a look here; http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/m_in_cas_castle7.htm especially for double chimney and placement of lubricator. Edited April 7, 2014 by westerner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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