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Spent some happy hours along there with "Coddy" Turner in the summer of 1968

 

 

 

Atherstone 22/7/1987

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Polesworth 22/7/1987

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both boxes were abolished 22/7/1990.

 Those shots must have been around the time that we put the Trust TDs in along the Trent Valley boxes. I remember having a nice interlude where I had to visit every box from Nuneaton to Halton Junction.

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Chester PSB's new Hooton panel on it's first hour of operation...apart from a few train describer problems it's all working fine now..

JF

 

I worked the 1902 and the 1985 boxes which controlled this area. Pre 1973 there were a total 218 levers in 2 LNWR boxes controlling Hooton - although quite a few were spare by that time.

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In the summer of 1980, for 3 months, I had relief Signalman's job and I managed to work a few turns in Heswall Hills box. It was an all wood MS&L design  with a 20 lever frame. The frame girder under the box could have accommodated a 32 lever frame so the box was larger than may have been expected. The station opened on 1st May 1898 and presumably the box opened at the same time. It was closed in January 1981 (the 5th I think).

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The bike under the steps belonged to a regular passenger who left it there while he went to work.

Yesterday I called in with my camera and took this picture. Can you tell the difference?
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A view of the remains from a road which runs by the railway.
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Returning from Birmingham on 20/4/1991 I decided to travel via Shrewsbury and I took the opportunity to take some photos from the train of the signal boxes (as you did!).

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Oxley box, the top of the box was formerly used at Denbigh station.

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Codsall box

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Cosford box, the things the LMR did to Western signals!

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Madeley Jcn box

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Wellington box, the recess behind the mile post was the location of the previous box

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Abbey Foregate box

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Severn Bridge Jcn box

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Shrewsbury Crewe Jcn box

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Coton Hill North box (now converted to a house).

After passing Coton Hill North I didn't take any other photos that day (the train was getting crowded) but as we passed through the closed Rednal & West Felton station I noticed that the base of the box survived, apparently in PWay use.
I made up my mind to go there to photo it but it was 9 years later before I did.
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Rednal & West Felton box base, taken 21/3/2000

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Interesting to see the photos and comments about Bromborough box. I have a few photos that I took in 1966/67 when I was Regular signalman there. The Second photo shows the interior with full oil light illumination!! The facilities were very basic at this time, coal fire, chemical loo, oil lights and stove. A train has been accepted on the Down Slow and one is in section from Spital on the Up Fast. There was only one spare, this was next to the up slow starter. I was told that it was either an outer home or advanced starter, but I never had any confirmation on this. Does anyone have any further info on this? The diagram in the box at the time was dated 1944, so there must have been some alterations done at this time.

 

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I have more photos, but I need to reduce the file size first.

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Returning from Birmingham on 20/4/1991 I decided to travel via Shrewsbury and I took the opportunity to take some photos from the train of the signal boxes (as you did!).

 

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Oxley box, the top of the box was formerly used at Denbigh station.

 

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Codsall box

 

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Cosford box, the things the LMR did to Western signals!

 

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Madeley Jcn box

 

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Wellington box, the recess behind the mile post was the location of the previous box

 

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Abbey Foregate box

 

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Severn Bridge Jcn box

 

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Shrewsbury Crewe Jcn box

 

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Coton Hill North box (now converted to a house).

 

After passing Coton Hill North I didn't take any other photos that day (the train was getting crowded) but as we passed through the closed Rednal & West Felton station I noticed that the base of the box survived, apparently in PWay use.

I made up my mind to go there to photo it but it was 9 years later before I did.

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Rednal & West Felton box base, taken 21/3/2000

Some great memories there.

I was at Oxley on  for the commissioning weekend of the new box, drew up a rewire of Codsall after the Bobby set fire to it by stacking the stove up on Sunday night ready to come back at 6am on Monday, worked on the pre-testing of Madeley Junction when the box was built, and was testing on the rationalisation of Wellington boxes in 1973 when that concrete relay hut was commissioned. Double clock-face Sunday turn on the last one, on the coldest September night ever recorded in Shropshire.

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Interesting to see the photos and comments about Bromborough box. I have a few photos that I took in 1966/67 when I was Regular signalman there. The Second photo shows the interior with full oil light illumination!! The facilities were very basic at this time, coal fire, chemical loo, oil lights and stove. A train has been accepted on the Down Slow and one is in section from Spital on the Up Fast. There was only one spare, this was next to the up slow starter. I was told that it was either an outer home or advanced starter, but I never had any confirmation on this. Does anyone have any further info on this? The diagram in the box at the time was dated 1944, so there must have been some alterations done at this time.

 

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I have more photos, but I need to reduce the file size first.

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Interesting to see the photos and comments about Bromborough box. I have a few photos that I took in 1966/67 when I was Regular signalman there. The Second photo shows the interior with full oil light illumination!! The facilities were very basic at this time, coal fire, chemical loo, oil lights and stove. A train has been accepted on the Down Slow and one is in section from Spital on the Up Fast. There was only one spare, this was next to the up slow starter. I was told that it was either an outer home or advanced starter, but I never had any confirmation on this. Does anyone have any further info on this? The diagram in the box at the time was dated 1944, so there must have been some alterations done at this time.

 

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I have more photos, but I need to reduce the file size first.

A view taken from the up fast platform at Bromborough about 1968. Lots of light engine movements in them days on and off the shed. One on the down fast, one on the down slow here.

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Ages ago, I promised more pictures for this thread. Having been reminded by recent posts, here are a few to be going on with from the hard drive. I must get some more scanned.

 

After it was found that some redundant signal posts were rotten. A check of the remaining posts that we were responsible for found that the best option was to remove them all, before they fell down.

The P.way trolley from Gaerwen was borrowed and those remaining on the Amlwch branch were disposed of. Here a steel post and a timber one are felled by our welder Dave 'chips' Williams, a job he really enjoyed.

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Many pictures have in them the late Graham Mickleburgh (Mick) who I had the pleasure of working with for a number of years. Sadly he passed away at an early age, a few years back.

Here is Mick and Mark Lamb in cupboard at Llandudno Junction up main distant. We were removing the experimental solar powered repeating after running a mains supply through the Tubular Bridge.

Taken from the top of the signal.

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Mick and I were jointing the telecoms cable that was shared on the Blaenau branch between signalling and telecom functions. c1982

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A period with not much happening in our area, we were sent to Chester's patch to lay troughing from Rockliffe Hall to Bagillt.

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Me (left) and Mick at Glan Conwy where the conventional signalling cable went into the telecoms cable. c1982

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The famous HD38 LNWR signal which appeared earlier in the thread, finally gave up one day when the casting broke. Despite all attempts by 'chips' we had to admit defeat and replace the arm with an upper quadrant.

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Mick fitting a new down main starter at Llandudno Junction, the old one behind previously was slotted with Conway distant.

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Third class travel, at Llandudno. A GWR Mogo van for S&T materials with benches.

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Llandudno Junction S&T team awaiting a solar eclipse one lunch time, about 2002?  Signal filters proved ideal to see it with.

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Mick and I on the last repair to a pole route in our area, near Llanrwst. At this time the new cable was already in but not yet swapped over.

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Penmaenmawr box.

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More to follow when they get scanned.

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Returning from Birmingham on 20/4/1991 I decided to travel via Shrewsbury and I took the opportunity to take some photos from the train of the signal boxes (as you did!).

 

attachicon.gif001-Oxley.jpg

Oxley box, the top of the box was formerly used at Denbigh station.

 

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Codsall box

 

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Cosford box, the things the LMR did to Western signals!

 

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Wellington box, the recess behind the mile post was the location of the previous box

 

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Abbey Foregate box

 

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Severn Bridge Jcn box

 

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Shrewsbury Crewe Jcn box

 

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Coton Hill North box (now converted to a house).

 

After passing Coton Hill North I didn't take any other photos that day (the train was getting crowded) but as we passed through the closed Rednal & West Felton station I noticed that the base of the box survived, apparently in PWay use.

I made up my mind to go there to photo it but it was 9 years later before I did.

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Rednal & West Felton box base, taken 21/3/2000

I took these shots in 1986. Interesting to compare them with your recent ones Keith.

 

Happy memories as I was based at Wellington 84-88. Never worked Oxley though but acted as pilotman to and from on many night shifts...

JF

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I believe Stirling is bereft of semaphores except for the Northbound (Perth line) starter. All the posts have made/were offered for preservation with the majority going to Whitrope and one triple bracket even getting to Ireland! Rather interestingly, in a mirror of the 60s during the many closures, when the posts were removed they weren't dug up complete with foundations, they were merely felled with a 'gas axe' at ground level. The large triple bracket which adorned the Southern apart of the station and got in the way of everyone's photographs made it to the SRPS in Bo'ness

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Ages ago, I promised more pictures for this thread. Having been reminded by recent posts, here are a few to be going on with from the hard drive. I must get some more scanned.

 

After it was found that some redundant signal posts were rotten. A check of the remaining posts that we were responsible for found that the best option was to remove them all, before they fell down.

The P.way trolley from Gaerwen was borrowed and those remaining on the Amlwch branch were disposed of. Here a steel post and a timber one are felled by our welder Dave 'chips' Williams, a job he really enjoyed.

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attachicon.gifAmlwch.jpg

 

Many pictures have in them the late Graham Mickleburgh (Mick) who I had the pleasure of working with for a number of years. Sadly he passed away at an early age, a few years back.

Here is Mick and Mark Lamb in cupboard at Llandudno Junction up main distant. We were removing the experimental solar powered repeating after running a mains supply through the Tubular Bridge.

Taken from the top of the signal.

attachicon.gifConwy.jpg

 

Mick and I were jointing the telecoms cable that was shared on the Blaenau branch between signalling and telecom functions. c1982

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A period with not much happening in our area, we were sent to Chester's patch to lay troughing from Rockliffe Hall to Bagillt.

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Me (left) and Mick at Glan Conwy where the conventional signalling cable went into the telecoms cable. c1982

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The famous HD38 LNWR signal which appeared earlier in the thread, finally gave up one day when the casting broke. Despite all attempts by 'chips' we had to admit defeat and replace the arm with an upper quadrant.

attachicon.gifHD 38.jpg

 

Mick fitting a new down main starter at Llandudno Junction, the old one behind previously was slotted with Conway distant.

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Third class travel, at Llandudno. A GWR Mogo van for S&T materials with benches.

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Llandudno Junction S&T team awaiting a solar eclipse one lunch time, about 2002?  Signal filters proved ideal to see it with.

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Mick and I on the last repair to a pole route in our area, near Llanrwst. At this time the new cable was already in but not yet swapped over.

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Penmaenmawr box.

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More to follow when they get scanned.

 

Good photos Merf and familiar faces from the past.

 

RE-HD38 signal, I believe the U/Q fittings came from one of the redundant wooden dolls on the gantry at Rhyl No1.

 

Llanrwst - I have quite a few of the insulators off the poles - few found in the culvert opposite the box, some with LNWR, LMS and later ones with BR(M) stamped on them, Think a couple were used in Llanrwst SB as paperweights!

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Bit quiet on here at the moment!

Anyway, random signalling question alert!

Did the Southern Railway stack their standard shunt disc signals for multiple routes like the GW and LMS or were they laid out seperately like the LNE? Can't seem to find a photo to show me one way or 't'other.

JF

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Plate 82 in "Southern Signals" by (signalman) George Pryer shows a slightly elevated disc ground signal at Andover. The disc even has a white diamond on the red arm. The caption points out that in SR days, this one signal operated for 5 routes. I can find no example of either stacked or adjacent ground signals in this useful book.

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