'CHARD Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) The source footage 'The Big Freeze' with Cliff Michelmore may well be on You Tube in its own right, Matt.* On last night's programme, which I've just watched and enjoyed immensely (amazing and quite humbling actually), there's what looks like a fair amount of WR footage. At 13.00 approx we see Whitrope box (accompanied by commentary of how a signalman tragically died in Lancashire), then what looks like a classic WR sheep bridge from a passenger train running wrong line, seen both in rear and forward looking aspects. Then at 14.00 approx, we see the clearance of the snow filled cutting, by a gang of blokes with shovels into what looks like a rake of Sturgeon wagons. It's hard to tell from the white landscape where this is, but it's clearly the location that's entered folklore (north of Shankend, Ninestanerigg - one of you lads know!). * checked - it is at the moment, here: EDIT: to amend Sturgeon/ Salmon brain-fade typo (and quote in post below) Edited January 20, 2013 by 'CHARD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Believe it or not, the same shot on More 4 for a second, but the BBC programme was better. I'm almost sure there was a real fleeting shot of Steele Road just before Whitrope Box on the BBC. B. Sorry, YES! I meant to mention this, Bruce. Circa 12.55, I feel sure the station buildings are Steele Road. Two steam locos are seen from an up train, back to back between ploughs, possibly one of NE provenance and a Black 5. EDIT: Possibly a J39 and an 8F, based on repeat viewing. I'm confident that is Steele Road. Never seen the footage before. EDIT2: At 13.26 a pair of steam locos blasting their way through a huge drift filling a cutting that could be Whitrope south portal approach. EDIT3: Watch to the end credits and notice that then undergraduate at the Royal College of Art, a certain 25y/o Ridley Scott was Designer of this piece. Edited January 20, 2013 by 'CHARD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastleton P.Way Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Then at 14.00 approx, we see the clearance of the snow filled cutting, by a gang of blokes with shovels into what looks like a rake of Sturgeon wagons. It's hard to tell from the white landscape where this is, but it's clearly the location that's entered folklore (north of Shankend, Ninestanerigg - one of you lads know!). I assume that this is the train shown in Stuart Sellar's photo on page 77 of Border Country Branch Line Album. It shows a J38 propelling a rake of Sturgeon wagons south on the Down line over the Golden Bridge, so is it safe to deduce that the gangs were going in to lift snow in Ninestanerigg cutting? Sturgeons would have been the ideal wagon for this task, having a low deck height, but how did the gangs get home once the wagons were full of the white stuff??? Edited January 20, 2013 by 'CHARD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2013 Two steam locos are seen from an up train, back to back between ploughs, possibly one of NE provenance and a Black 5. EDIT: Possibly a J39 and an 8F, based on repeat viewing. There is an oft shown clip of such a pairing (or similar) tackling the drifts on the NE Stainmore route (Cumbria/Durham) Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Somewhere in the archives we've a couple of 10"x8" black & white photos taken in Ninestane Rigg Cutting showing the snow clearance ... I think they're Hawick News provenance and guess they'd have made some of the papers around that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Closure notice. Don't think we've had this link before? http://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/3997814741/in/set-72157622431648709 Cheers, 26power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Closure notice. Don't think we've had this link before? http://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/3997814741/in/set-72157622431648709 Cheers, 26power That's the wee booklet version .... I'll try and remember to photograph the poster to put on here when I reach dry land in just over a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Came across this last night & do not think it's been shown before + it's in keeping with the lovely weather we have at the moment .http://www.time-capsules.co.uk/picture/number2607.asp Hope this comes out OK as I've not posted to many links . Stewart . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 We've had it a couple of times, including here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/6186-waverley-route-new-image-links-and-discussion/page-72&do=findComment&comment=868123 In fairness though, it's the kind of shot that we'll never tire of seeing, especially when the weather looks like that outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Sorry about that I should have checked back , but as you say it is worth viewing again & not just for the pic but the information shown . Here's a pic from my own collection of A2 60528 on a special at Hawick 23-4-66 . Stewart . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawick_1987 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) A little off-topic, but I recently encountered a curious argument over which Scottish town has the largest population, but no railway station within 2 miles. Here were the main contenders: Now am I right in saying the Scottish Borders is the largest region in the U.K. to have no railway stations (yet)? Also, is Hawick the furthest town of over 10,000 people in Scotland from a railway station? Edited January 27, 2013 by Hawick_1987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sorry about that I should have checked back , but as you say it is worth viewing again & not just for the pic but the information shown . Here's a pic from my own collection of A2 60528 on a special at Hawick 23-4-66 . Stewart . And by the laws of coincidence, I met in Langholm a steam driver yesterday morning who'd driven "Blue Peter" and was on board the footplate during the infamous "wheel-slip" incident. Although we'd spoken upwards of a dozen times recently, neither of us had mentioned "Trains" - I guess that we'll have a lot to talk about when next we meet walking our dogs! Bruce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 29, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Some new images have appeared on Flickr that I don't think we have seen before First a 5f with self weighing tender at the south end of Hawick platform? http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8425053898/in/photostream Whitrope signal box http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8423953357/in/photostream leaving Riccarton http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8423951901/in/photostream and the box at Newcastleton http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8423949483/in/photostream regards Duncan Edited January 29, 2013 by Blandford1969 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Some new images have appeared on Flickr that I don't think we have seen before First a WD at the south end of Hawick platform? http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8425053898/in/photostream I don't think that's a WD. It looks to me like a Stanier 5 with a self-weighing tender, like this - http://www.flickr.com/photos/16749798@N08/4098449660/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Agreed. Definitely a Five with a self-weigher but whose, when and why are what's interesting me. Kingmoor didn't as far as my knowledge extends have one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 44986 was allocated to Kingmoor during the time it had a self-weighing tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just to add - 44677 was another Kingmoor engine which had a self-weighing tender for much of its life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Having just come in off the Waverley Route, A2 60528 Tudor Minstrel brings 1X50 into Edinburgh on 23rd April 1966. Photo from http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8172214621 I wondered about the "0" of 1X50 having flapped over, and confirmation from Six Bells Junction has it like that when pictured earlier at Hawick: Gen on the tour is here: http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/60s/660423ar.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just a link to a pic of A3 60077 The White Knight dep Carlisle in a hurry with a troop train having earlier come to the rescue of failed Peak D27 nr Newcastleton http://www.flickr.com/photos/holycorner/8245560020/ . Stewart . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62440 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Last Weekend Footage on YouTube Can anyone point me to the links that old Border TV (of blessed memory) had on YouTube? I suspect that the links are down as my searches throw up nothing. Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Still searching, Bruce. However, I hadn't seen this video previously, of 60052 Prince Palatine on a Class 4 express freight, at two of our favourite viaducts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=101s90-rgv4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 It looks as though the Border TV archive is temporarily down for maintenance or perhaps another reason. It's not confined to the rail footage, all the culture, arts, talking head and life and times stuff is presently innaccessible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Still searching, Bruce. However, I hadn't seen this video previously, of 60052 Prince Palatine on a Class 4 express freight, at two of our favourite viaducts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=101s90-rgv4 The perfect excuse to join Facebook, 'Chard .... we've been linking these clips on the WRHA Facebook page for some months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tony graham Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Mind you I did find this, never seen his before.. http://youtu.be/C77PPfthgm4 http://youtu.be/-1MRmUUENrE Edited February 6, 2013 by tony graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durranhill Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Did a search to see if this pic had been shown before & nothing showed up so here is A4 60011 EMPIRE OF INDIA http://www.flickr.com/photos/22770319@N02/6001126779/in/photostream/ coming off the Waverley route at Port Carlisle Junction with a 4 coach train on the 7th Oct 1961. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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