shortliner Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA1diH5jmxY Part 1 Part 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 That's great in any nationality! It's almost a full sized model railway, if you see what I mean? Presumably there are no run round facilities at the end of the branch, so it is done here? Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Looks like he's wearing a remote control pack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Yes, it's a radio-controlled class 365. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Nice find. Looking at Bing Maps it seems that the traffic is still running (if the map is up to date) as there is a wagon parked at the end of the freight branch. Also looking further east along the main line there is a 2 car DMU - nice subject to model. Chris M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Can anyone explain why, once he's back on the main line, the shunter shuffles back and forward in such an obviously unprototypical manner? Why not just back out on to the main and then head west , rather than running up to the bridge, then back east out of sight, then back past. Is there a gradient we cannot see, that he needed to take a run at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiles Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Excellent find. Those little V60's have quite a turn of speed when wound up full! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Can anyone explain why, once he's back on the main line, the shunter shuffles back and forward in such an obviously unprototypical manner? Why not just back out on to the main and then head west , rather than running up to the bridge, then back east out of sight, then back past. Is there a gradient we cannot see, that he needed to take a run at? Is it to get the Kadee coupling to uncouple? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 It's the fly-switching does it for me...!! When we can work out how to do that convincingly on a model railway, then I'll feel like I'm running a proper Short Line!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 never mind the fly shunting bit [pin point bearings and a quick puff usually do the trick?}......how does one get one's Preiser figures to hop back on the loco again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Great clips Jack, thanks for posting The shuffling back and forth seems to be to save the engineer walking from one end of the train to the to the other, but I'm at a loss to explain the run all the way back out of sight near the end of the second clip, perhaps there's something we don't know about like another customer up there. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 I have no idea why it goes back down the line but there are others posted by KIWIT4 incliding this one of Raisdorf which gives a good view of that runround siding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I suppose "Hunby" would be in poor taste, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Having looked more closely at the 'fly-shunting' bit............I think an answer may lie with the 'height difference' between the 'main' line and the yard tracks? If the head shunt/lead is at the same roadbed height as the main running line....but the gradient transition is between the entry turnout into the yard...and the first turnout of the 'loop'.....then...as long as the wagons are clear of the loop turnout blades when the loco is uncoupled, gravity alone will get the wagons rolling....? [There would need to be more distance between the entry turnout from the headshunt into the loop.....and the first loop turnout, in the plan above...for example......maybe a wagon-length?] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backofanenvelope Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 What a great find Jack! and such a tempting location to model with the by the main road and would fit in any location, era as Mickey says. Nice to see something that's not bulk trains. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 You'd also need a "brake! to hold the wagons while the loco was run around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 True - but would a motorised van cause problems whilst switching with the loco? or perhaps a method could be devised to allow it to free-wheel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 http://www.rmweb.co....-on-a-gradient/ Note - the operating lever with the weight needs to be180° out from where it is in this case, ie the lever should lie uphill otherwise you can't operate it to release the wagons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Yes, it's a radio-controlled class 365. I wish First Capital Connect 365's were radio controlled - I'd get a Tx and bring one out of Hornsey instead of our old Dusty Bins and 317's! Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Doe anyone by any chance know what the name of the town would translate to in English? I know "Dorf" is "village" but I dont know the Rais bit This community is near Kiel which is Schleswig-Holstein, not Niedersachsen and ploughing through the town website it is unfortunately not that easy to identify the source of the name. It was originally called Wendischer Rathwersdorpe and during the centuries the name changed through Raddersdorpe to Raystörff to Kieler Raisdorf I know that does not answer the question correctly but I expect there will be a lot of dutch/friesische dialect influence to the name which governed how the written name was spelle [There are many UK towns which are not spoken as written :-)] es grüßt PC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacRat Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Can anyone explain why, once he's back on the main line, the shunter shuffles back and forward in such an obviously unprototypical manner? Why not just back out on to the main and then head west , rather than running up to the bridge, then back east out of sight, then back past. Is there a gradient we cannot see, that he needed to take a run at? I'm not familiar with this location but from looking at the footage I think the series of movements, once back on the main line is for: - running up to the bridge to allow the driver with the remote control to step on the last wagon. This way the driver is at the leading end of the train when running back to the station. - back out of sight is most probably the return to the station, where the shunt move originated from. Think of it as returning the keys/token to the station that issued them to the driver. - then the train runs signaled as ordinary train along the line. I may be wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Very logical, Macrat - thanks for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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