Shadow Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Just seen this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066718/The-new-Dunkirk--British-forces-use-Tsars-railway-travel-3-500-miles-home-train-Afghanistan.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2012 The account reads as if the rebels will continue to attack the trains even when they cross civilised countries in Eastern and Central Europe. Seems a little unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 The account reads as if the rebels will continue to attack the trains even when they cross civilised countries in Eastern and Central Europe. Seems a little unlikely. Did you not see the thread on the MOD train robbed near warrington??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A-Rail Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I love the stock picture the Daily Mail use to show the channel tunnel. Did DB Schenker win the contract to move the equipment? Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I think the Poles may be surprised to read that their railways have been regauged to 5'3". Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 During communist times a Russian gauge line did exist, in Poland, from Katowice -here in the SW of the country, to the Ukranian border. It shipped finished steel products and coal, as part of the Comecom set up. The Poles were quick to change the gauge, after 1989 to standard and the route is now part of the ICE network. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 "Er - Hello Signaller, can you stop that last freight - summat's just dropped off it" "Er - yeah - it's blocking the Down Slow, not sure what, about 30 tons, covered in sand" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 How did they get all of the kit there in the first place? I guess using a similar route rather than through Pakistan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 How did they get all of the kit there in the first place? I guess using a similar route rather than through Pakistan. Mostly by sea, overland transportation through Russia is a relatively recent thing (last few years), and is restricted to non warlike kit, e.g. no ammo/weapons/fighting equipment allowed. Normal routes to Afghanistan since 2001 have been: By sea UK-Pakistan, then driven North. By sea UK-Cyprus, then air freighted into theatre using chartered Russian cargo planes. By sea UK-UAE, then air freighted into theatre using chartered Russian cargo planes. Returning it all by sea is somewhat impractical given the timeframe and recent cutbacks, not to mention security issues in Pakistan and a rather tender diplomatic relationship with the same. The MOD plan to take out of service 2 of their dedicated transport ships next year due to recent cutbacks, just at the time they'd be needed most! What they decide to leave behind is apparently going to be buried in the desert.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 What they decide to leave behind is apparently going to be buried in the desert.... Lets hope they remember where, unlike those Spitfires from WWII Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Some photos of the border crossing with Uzbekistan by Australian aid worker Liz Johnson, posted with permission. The TEM2 locomotives (nicknamed ‘Tamara’) were built by Bryansk Engineering Works and used throughout the Soviet bloc on standard and Soviet gauge. They are basically a reverse engineered Alco RSD-1 with different bogies. Seventy Alco RSD-1s sent to the Soviet Union under the lend-lease scheme in 1944. Over 4000 copies were made in Bryansk over the subsequent 52 years! Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 The account reads as if the rebels will continue to attack the trains even when they cross civilised countries in Eastern and Central Europe. Seems a little unlikely. Perhaps the threat comes from more local dissident factions....?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 What they decide to leave behind is apparently going to be buried in the desert.... Ahh, history repeats itself ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2012 The TEM2 locomotives (nicknamed ‘Tamara’) were built by Bryansk Engineering Works and used throughout the Soviet bloc on standard and Soviet gauge. They are basically a reverse engineered Alco RSD-1 with different bogies. Seventy Alco RSD-1s sent to the Soviet Union under the lend-lease scheme in 1944. Over 4000 copies were made in Bryansk over the subsequent 52 years! When I first looked at the head-on shot, with that lamp et al - I thought RS1! No, silly boy - can't be! Thanks for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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