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[LNER4479]

Aha - wondered who was going to spot that!

 

It is Triang ... but have no idea what prototype it represents! Dad uses it as is converter vehicle, so it has a HD 'buckeye' type coupling one end (his standard coupling type) and a tension lock other end.

[Dunsignalling]

23 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

Aha - wondered who was going to spot that!

 

It is Triang ... but have no idea what prototype it represents! Dad uses it as is converter vehicle, so it has a HD 'buckeye' type coupling one end (his standard coupling type) and a tension lock other end.

The Tri-ang horsebox was sold like that after the acquisition of the HD business by Tri-ang's owners in a half-hearted attempt at creating compatibility between the two ranges.

 

It was quite an old model even then and could also be had in its earlier form with two tension-locks.

 

The general look is of a GWR prototype but the roof has a deeper curve to it. As pointed out a couple of posts ago Hornby has made a greatly improved representation in more recent times.

 

John

Edited April 20, 2023 by Dunsignalling

[PMP]

These are the diagrams the Triang version was based upon which iirc are N14 for flat end, and N13 for tumblehome end

Lima/Parkside 

 

Parkside

 

Hornby RTR 

Other types available are:

LMS Hornby RTR (reliveried by me)

 

LNER Parkside 

 

BR Mk1 Bachmann RTR (unmodified)

 

I used a mix of these on Bawdsey to replicate a hunt special, all have been modified with either Shawplan or self cut flush glazing, and @cctransuk transfers.

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2023 by PMP
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[Tony Wright]

10 hours ago, PMP said:

These are the diagrams the Triang version was based upon which iirc are N14 for flat end, and N13 for tumblehome end

Lima/Parkside 

 

Parkside

 

Hornby RTR 

Other types available are:

LMS Hornby RTR (reliveried by me)

 

LNER Parkside 

 

BR Mk1 Bachmann RTR (unmodified)

 

I used a mix of these on Bawdsey to replicate a hunt special, all have been modified with either Shawplan or self cut flush glazing, and @cctransuk transfers.

 

 

 

They're lovely models Paul,

 

Thanks for showing us. 

 

A 'hunt special'? Imagine such a thing running today!

 

I have a few horseboxes running on LB (not for hunts but to serve the numerous racecourses on the ER/NER).

 

These include............

 

 

A Bachmann Mk.1 example, weathered by me.

 

 

Two Hornby examples, weathered by Richard Wilson.

 

 

Another view of the Hornby ex-GWR example, before I chucked the tension-locks away. 

 

 

I built a Parkside one, but I think I got rather muddled with regard to the brake gear! Looking at yours, there should be another lever.

 

 

Someone brought this scratch-built GC example along. 

 

 

And Dave Hunt scratch-built this MR example (which was sold on behalf of CRUK.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

[Tony Wright]

11 hours ago, Dunsignalling said:

The Tri-ang horsebox was sold like that after the acquisition of the HD business by Tri-ang's owners in a half-hearted attempt at creating compatibility between the two ranges.

 

It was quite an old model even then and could also be had in its earlier form with two tension-locks.

 

The general look is of a GWR prototype but the roof has a deeper curve to it. As pointed out a couple of posts ago Hornby has made a greatly improved representation in more recent times.

 

John

Ah yes, John, thanks.

 

I recall it had a Peco/HD coupling at one end and a tension-lock on the other.

 

Mine dated from the '50s, and had the earlier (non-tension-lock) style of Tri-ang coupling. As mentioned, the axleboxes were 'open', and the wheelsets (plastic) could move on the axle (why, I wonder?).

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[jwealleans]

I've been sporadically working on a Hunt Special for Wickham Market.   I need to finish off the two carriages which will bookend it.

 

 

The inspiration was a Dick Riley photo showing 16 LMS horseboxes at Stowmarket behind a Claud.  Here they are on Dave Scott's layout about 3 weeks ago.

 

 

 

[Dunsignalling]

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Ah yes, John, thanks.

 

I recall it had a Peco/HD coupling at one end and a tension-lock on the other.

 

Mine dated from the '50s, and had the earlier (non-tension-lock) style of Tri-ang coupling. As mentioned, the axleboxes were 'open', and the wheelsets (plastic) could move on the axle (why, I wonder?).

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Yes, Tony, back when the underframes were diecast metal.

 

IIRC the Tri-ang "push through" axles had offset protrusions that locked one wheel to them, the other being free to rotate independently. 

 

I always assumed it was to stop the axles working their way out through the open axleboxes. However, it would also prevent the wheels fighting one another on the 13.5 inch radius curves of Tri-ang 's Standard and Series 3 track!

 

John

[polybear]

I've received an email from Ellis Clark Trains to say they're planning to release a range of 00 Quad Arts later this year:

 

https://clarkrailworks.com/collections/quad-arts

 

The pictures suggest that the detail is amazing.

 

(No connections etc. etc.)

[BMacdermott]

Hello Polybear

 

Indeed!

 

The GN Quad Arts have been right at the top of LNER Coaches in The 00 Wishlist Polls since 2013. They went into The Top 50 in 2018, staying there for 2019 also.

 

The Poll didn't run in 2020 and 2021 but, in 2022, they missed The Top 50 by only a handful of votes (and, it has to be said, The Poll content had been radically amended possibly changing 'the dynamics').

 

Taking my Poll Team hat off for a moment and speaking 'personally', I have just ordered the eight coaches that form Set No.85. They will sit nicely on my layout when running in 'Hitchin mode'.🙂

 

I will be interested to see how they cope with Radius 2 curves.

 

Brian

 

 

 

[Dunsignalling]

12 minutes ago, polybear said:

I've received an email from Ellis Clark Trains to say they're planning to release a range of 00 Quad Arts later this year:

 

https://clarkrailworks.com/collections/quad-arts

 

The pictures suggest that the detail is amazing.

 

(No connections etc. etc.)

Way off my territory, but wow!

 

Any chance of an ex-LSWR Ironclad PP set as a follow up? 🙂

 

The RTR OO marketplace becomes yet more crowded....

 

John

 

 

 

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by Dunsignalling

[gwrrob]

1 minute ago, Dunsignalling said:

Way off my territory, but wow!

 

 

Absolutely and I’m very envious. I hope they sell by the bucketloads.

[BMacdermott]

3 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

The RTR OO marketplace becomes yet more crowded....

 

Hello Dunsignalling

 

...or more diverse (depending on one's viewpoint).🙂

 

Brian

[Dunsignalling]

1 minute ago, BMacdermott said:

 

Hello Dunsignalling

 

...or more diverse (depending on one's viewpoint).🙂

 

Brian

 

Hornby didn't have enough shoulders to look back over even before this announcement....😉

 

John

[26power]

A specific thread for the GN Quad arts is here:

 

[APOLLO]

Hunt trains - Anyone run Pigeon special van trains ?

 

Lots of photos and info here, very interesting (though I hate the things - flying rats !!)

 

https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/128-pigeon-traffic-historical

 

Brit15

[nsl714]

I am much too late for the previous discussion of Ian Kirk vehicles, but here is an O gauge Kirk Siphon which I just completed.

 

 

 

There was plenty of opportunity for added details; the brake gear and steps were mostly scratch-built, castings/etches were added for items such as door handles, vacuum and steam hoses, and lamp brackets, etc. Some weathering in the future will finish it off.

 

Thanks,
Zach

 

 

 

[Keith Turbutt]

2 hours ago, 26power said:

A specific thread for the GN Quad arts is here:

 

A GE Quint would have been better as they could be run in single sets.

[richard i]

9 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Someone brought this scratch-built GC example along.

That someone is me. Though it is not scratchbuilt, it is a kit which needed beading added and my less than perfect fitting of them is what makes it look scratchbuilt. I think it is a d&s kit. Happy to be corrected on that though. 
reading it through it sounds like I am saying that scratchbuilding is poor. Rather that my scratchbuilding does not look as good as something I have built from a kit.

richard 

[geoff west]

5 hours ago, polybear said:

I've received an email from Ellis Clark Trains to say they're planning to release a range of 00 Quad Arts later this year:

 

https://clarkrailworks.com/collections/quad-arts

 

The pictures suggest that the detail is amazing.

 

(No connections etc. etc.)

Can anyone tell me which set i would  need for Biggleswade 1956 ? I believe there was a Hitchin to Sandy train which consisted of quad arts.

[60526]

On 15/04/2023 at 13:03, Tony Wright said:

 

 

 

Truly old fashioned frames, but an excellent runner. 

 

 

In updating or modifying older kits, has anyone experience of using the likes of Hornby or Bachmann wheels instead of Romfords or Gibson etc. In buying the buffers for my 04/8 from Peters Spares I was drawn to the other spares they provide for the O1. I'm impressed by the smooth running of my Hornby O1, so I've ordered a set of O1 driving wheels to try out, at £10 it must be worth a punt? I don't know how much a set of Romfords would cost?

[Tony Wright]

1 hour ago, richard i said:

That someone is me. Though it is not scratchbuilt, it is a kit which needed beading added and my less than perfect fitting of them is what makes it look scratchbuilt. I think it is a d&s kit. Happy to be corrected on that though. 
reading it through it sounds like I am saying that scratchbuilding is poor. Rather that my scratchbuilding does not look as good as something I have built from a kit.

richard 

Thanks Richard,

 

I have so many pictures taken on Little Bytham of others' stock that it's hard to remember which is which. 

 

Anything scratch-built has particular appeal to me, though I no longer indulge in the process - too many good kits which are far better than my scratch-built efforts down the years, which included......... A1/1, A2/2, A2/3, B2 (Thompson), D49, K1, K1/1, K4 and O1, plus other adaptations. Apart from the K4 and the O1, all gone now. 

 

I think a better description of my scratch-built efforts might be - 'I built it and it got scratched'!

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Tony Wright]

2 minutes ago, 60526 said:

In updating or modifying older kits, has anyone experience of using the likes of Hornby or Bachmann wheels instead of Romfords or Gibson etc. In buying the buffers for my 04/8 from Peters Spares I was drawn to the other spares they provide for the O1. I'm impressed by the smooth running of my Hornby O1, so I've ordered a set of O1 driving wheels to try out, at £10 it must be worth a punt? I don't know how much a set of Romfords would cost?

Good evening Charlie,

 

Probably worth a try. 

 

Since I buy my wheels in bulk from Markits, I don't know what individual drivers cost. Probably over £6.00 each?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Tony Wright]

Is this the best RTR A4 in 4mm ever? Even the best irrespective of its origin?

 

 

Just received from Hornby for review in BRM; the 'Hornby Dublo' diecast-body version. 

 

It really is rather good, though I'm not sure a Flaman recorder would still be fitted post-War. 

 

Initial testing shows it to be a superlative runner (it'll have a full layout-test tomorrow). 

 

It's better than anything I could do in comparison...............

 

 

Though I still think Ian Rathbone's painting has the edge. 

 

 

[60526]

Just now, Tony Wright said:

Good evening Charlie,

 

Probably worth a try. 

 

Since I buy my wheels in bulk from Markits, I don't know what individual drivers cost. Probably over £6.00 each?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

I looked back at the GK article and noticed that he used the Bmann O4 as a donor chassis. I hadn't realised that Bmann had improved the spares on their website. A set of O4 wheels and rods is £22. https://Bachmann-spares.co.uk/category/2-branchline-steam-parts/robinson-04-2-8-0/chassis?page=1

[Tony Wright]

On Sunday, I'll be helping a chap build a DJH A1 (he's a relative newcomer to kit-building).

 

In preparation..............

 

 

I started this one of my own this morning. 

 

It'll be 60158 ABERDONIAN.