Wright writes.....

[lezz01]

53 minutes ago, MJI said:

I need to get some solder paste or paint, for two types of jobs, laminating, and detail adding, such as lamp irons and foot steps.

 

Any recommendations please, just spent  an hour cleaning my 0-4-4T

There are lots of options on eBay and Amazon with different melting points with or without lead, some in syringes and some in little jars. If you go with a syringe they state that you should use it all in one go but if you have a proper syringe cap you will get more than one use out of it by putting cling film over the top of the syringe before you put the cap on. If you have used it with a blunt needle type applicator that some of them come with make sure you expel the solder from the needle before removing it from the syringe to do this hold it upright needle uppermost and draw the plunger backwards then remove the needle and push any air out and seal as above. The jar type can be kept fresh by covering the top of the open jar with clingfilm before you screw the top back on Even so I would go with Carrs if you are prepared to wait a bit longer for delivery as it seems to stick to the brass better when you paint it on. If it goes dry you can revive it by crushing it up into a powder and mixing it back into a paste with phosphoric acid but I would also use clingfilm as above to keep it fresher longer.

Regards Lez.

Edited January 20 by lezz01

[MJI]

Just put in an order with Precision.

 

Thinners

Wagon underframes

Bus paint (PECO Leyland Nationals)

Solder

 

Will order other bus paint on bus 2

[MJI]

May have a go at a tender loco, for my BR blue era.

 

1985 colours

VERY clean

No outside valve gear

Got half the train already

Rode on footplate around Horton Road

 

Can't find any available Castle kits.

 

WIll I have to get RTR?

 

 

[lezz01]

Wizard Models do a chassis pack and there are RTR bodies on eBay. 

Regards Lez.

[MJI]

I am also after a MR 1P 044T is Craftsman LK3 suitable for 58071?

[MJI]

1 minute ago, lezz01 said:

Wizard Models do a chassis pack and there are RTR bodies on eBay. 

Regards Lez.

 

Thanks, I wil take this route, but later in year, I want a couple of 0-4-4Ts done first.

 

Taking ONE easy route, will be plain line, no station so they can just go past.

[Tony Wright]

I'm delighted that so many folk are getting great pleasure from running their RTR items; good on you!

 

Of course, it's axiomatic that some really good modellers aren't interested in building locos (or stock), and yet their layouts can look beautiful (and work well as well); Geoff Taylor's layout has been rightly mentioned. I'd also include Brent (I've seen the former in the flesh, but not the latter). 

 

Working out a running sequence/timetable can also be very-creative, especially if it's based on an actual timetable (both public and working). Peterborough North is probably the only large, main line layout where a full timetable is actually run. Bytham's, though based on actual timetables, is merely 'selective' in comparison. An 'accurate' timetable on, say, Wolverhampton MRC's Moretonhampstead would use two locos and no more than three trains - and that would be on market day in Newton! 

 

Because my principal interest in the hobby is building locos, then I've tended to work in like-minded groups where modellers (all with complementary and consistent skills) build layouts where individuals are responsible for different disciplines. I take my hat of the guy/girl who does the lot himself/herself; many of my 'influencers' (though probably entirely ignorant of 'social media') did just that - creative, self-reliant and inspirational! They're well-known.

 

Though I prefer to build my own locos, I'll concede total 'defeat' if it ever came to my making something like this................

 

 

Rapido's latest Stirling Single, with a smaller tender. 

 

Could I build anything like this? Probably, but nowhere near as well. Could I paint it as well as this? No!. 

 

 

Its predecessor (with a larger tender) ran on Little Bytham during the '38 Weekend in 2018, hauling a rake of exquisite carriages - Jonathan Wealleans' work? 

 

Previously.............

 

 

The only way to obtain a 4mm Stirling Single was to kit-build (Millholme or much-altered Kitmaster), or, as in the case above, scratch-build. 

 

This one's the property of Dan Pinnock (builder/painter unknown). It's seen running on Grantham some years ago at Wood Green. 

Edited January 20 by Tony Wright
to add something

[Clive Mortimore]

9 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

Good morning Rob,

 

There are many more stories I can tell from my times as demonstrator/loco-doctor/second-hand salesman. 

 

Responding to questions such as........

 

'Why are you mending these?'

'I'm not mending them, I'm building them'.

'Why are they all in bits?'

'That's how they come - they're kits'.

'Then why do they need mending?'

 

'Why is it that every time I put this loco on my tracks, I get a short circuit?'

'Because it's a Hornby Dublo three-rail SILVER KING'.

'But I've only got two rails'. 

 

'How many tension-lock couplings are in that packet you have for sale?'

'I don't know, though I'd imagine about 30'.

'How much?'

'It's on the pack - £3.00'.

'May I count them?'

'Of course'.

'One, two, three.............. Yes, over 30'. 

'Any good?'

'Yes, but three are different from the others'.

'They're probably older-style ones'.

'How much less if I take them out?'

'You like sex and you like travel?.................

One guy, overhearing this, grabbed them in an instance!

 

I'll tell some more stories later...............

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Hello Tony

 

The best I have had was when demonstrating how to misshape plastic card on a DEMU stand this chap telling me I was doing wrong as Clive Mortimore said how to do it in DEMU's Update magazine. My college sitting next to me waited for him to walk away, he checked my name badge and said "I hope I collected the right Clive Mortimore when I picked up this morning".

[lezz01]

28 minutes ago, MJI said:

I am also after a MR 1P 044T is Craftsman LK3 suitable for 58071?

Is that the Belpare boiler version or the round top?

I don't think that there is much external difference between the Johnson 0-4-4Ts. I think that the main differences were internal i.e. cylinders but I may be wrong. 

Regards Lez.

[lezz01]

14 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hello Tony

 

The best I have had was when demonstrating how to misshape plastic card on a DEMU stand this chap telling me I was doing wrong as Clive Mortimore said how to do it in DEMU's Update magazine. My college sitting next to me waited for him to walk away, he checked my name badge and said "I hope I collected the right Clive Mortimore when I picked up this morning".

Well at least your mate had the decency not to roll around on the floor laughing his head off.

Regards Lez.

[MJI]

4 minutes ago, lezz01 said:

Is that the Belpare boiler version or the round top?

I don't think that there is much external difference between the Johnson 0-4-4Ts. I think that the main differences were internal i.e. cylinders but I may be wrong. 

Regards Lez.

Round top, difficult to find

[John Besley]

18 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hello Tony

 

The best I have had was when demonstrating how to misshape plastic card on a DEMU stand this chap telling me I was doing wrong as Clive Mortimore said how to do it in DEMU's Update magazine. My college sitting next to me waited for him to walk away, he checked my name badge and said "I hope I collected the right Clive Mortimore when I picked up this morning".

 

Great stories, we need more of these

[Steamport Southport]

43 minutes ago, MJI said:

May have a go at a tender loco, for my BR blue era.

 

1985 colours

VERY clean

No outside valve gear

Got half the train already

Rode on footplate around Horton Road

 

Can't find any available Castle kits.

 

WIll I have to get RTR?

 

 

 

South Eastern Finecast make a Castle, or two as they do the 3500 or 4000 gallon tenders.

 

http://www.sefinecast.co.uk/Locomotives/Bodyline Locomotive Kits 5.htm

 

They also do an etched chassis for it or you could go with the Comet one.

 

 

Jason

[John Besley]

As regards RTR or Kit build, I model in 7/8ths on Peco 0.16.5 track so everything is scratch built around RTR chassis or modified with HLK gearboxes... if I carry on at my present rate I will have more stock etc. than track...

 

I take my hat off to those who can scratch build or kit build 4mm loco chassis that work like sewing machines

[Michael Edge]

2 hours ago, MJI said:

I need to get some solder paste or paint, for two types of jobs, laminating, and detail adding, such as lamp irons and foot steps.

 

Any recommendations please, just spent  an hour cleaning my 0-4-4T

You don't need solder paste for laminating, just clamp the parts together and run flux and solder along the edges, capillary action will take the solder in.

[lezz01]

3 minutes ago, MJI said:

Round top, difficult to find

Rumney models do a nice chassis kit for both the Bachmann body and the Craftsman body, different kits you understand. The body is available as a spare part from Bachmann. Do you want the etched brass kit or the WM kit as Craftsman did both?

regards Lez. 

[MJI]

11 minutes ago, lezz01 said:

Rumney models do a nice chassis kit for both the Bachmann body and the Craftsman body, different kits you understand. The body is available as a spare part from Bachmann. Do you want the etched brass kit or the WM kit as Craftsman did both?

regards Lez. 

Just found round top from a web search to a soon closing shop

[lezz01]

Well there's this one on eBay that could be finished off with little effort.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156013485125?hash=item245320dc45:g:nlEAAOSwAdRlqGoG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8KdTFv5GiuYn4orczs3BrMLyCXyoU7LbJIBD7rvPwVXNYjeVh79fkgjETYDmH7DUpw7r65fUwdWBMJM4TQuMFe7Fv10%2FQhaRqoJPEhFizgAqhEYEa5bKUgL0L29jqt26r1bfAO7Yw8i%2FAxP2nBSO5GMWRmTkgivnRB9qOfIQLwBOEod6EaQAOC95oDu9A%2FoI3KCAaD53IM5cdFk1QiuN%2BwyLriiP1lnhB2i3G9y7Wc1J7F8EY5WJUYMMP68%2FfKS%2Bdg6Ck%2BzMKB6XvjcAWZDsj%2FSqgENXZKP5r3QoqUvd3rDjxw2Ez9Qr%2B7TgLbxUP2zrQQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7yV3YGlYw

It wouldn't take much to get it running. It's also a very good price.

Regards Lez.

[MarkC]

9 minutes ago, lezz01 said:

Well there's this one on eBay that could be finished off with little effort.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156013485125?hash=item245320dc45:g:nlEAAOSwAdRlqGoG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8KdTFv5GiuYn4orczs3BrMLyCXyoU7LbJIBD7rvPwVXNYjeVh79fkgjETYDmH7DUpw7r65fUwdWBMJM4TQuMFe7Fv10%2FQhaRqoJPEhFizgAqhEYEa5bKUgL0L29jqt26r1bfAO7Yw8i%2FAxP2nBSO5GMWRmTkgivnRB9qOfIQLwBOEod6EaQAOC95oDu9A%2FoI3KCAaD53IM5cdFk1QiuN%2BwyLriiP1lnhB2i3G9y7Wc1J7F8EY5WJUYMMP68%2FfKS%2Bdg6Ck%2BzMKB6XvjcAWZDsj%2FSqgENXZKP5r3QoqUvd3rDjxw2Ez9Qr%2B7TgLbxUP2zrQQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7yV3YGlYw

It wouldn't take much to get it running. It's also a very good price.

Regards Lez.

That looks to be a bargain, tbh. Surprised that it's still available at time of tryping this...

 

Matk

[lezz01]

13 minutes ago, MarkC said:

That looks to be a bargain, tbh. Surprised that it's still available at time of tryping this...

 

Matk

No it's still there. as of right now. It might be because that it's in the wrong place it should be under Locomotive kits or kit built locomotives but it's just under Locomotives so it doesn't come up if you search locomotive kits.

Regards Lez.

Edited January 20 by lezz01

[Clive Mortimore]

23 hours ago, MarkC said:

Kits? RTR? Modifying RTR? Rescue someone's kit disaster? Scratchbuilding? I've tackled/used/done them all. Yes, modern RTR can be utterly sensational, but given the choice I'd still prefer to build my own model too.

 

An example. I've recently identified a requirement for a 4-car Class 104 DMU. Now, those nice people at Heljan have recently announced a RTR set, but it'll be in excess of GBP300 for a 3-car set. After studying drawings of both the 104 and 110 units, by dint of some canny eBay shopping I've obtained a Hornby 3-car Class 110 DMU, plus a couple of extra coaches, which will, with careful razor saw use, good glue, some filler, doubtless some (free) bad language and a few hours of my time, produce a "layout" 4-car Class 104 for under half the Heljan price. There was, of course, the Silver Fox option too, but again that would work out more than the Hornby option.

 

Having said all that, although I have some DC Kits Class 108s to build, the Bachmann 3-car Class 108 that I won on eBay at a great price, complete with correct destination blinds at each end - which I hadn't noticed when bidding for it, so that was a HUGE bonus - will take some beating 😎

 

Mark

Hi Mark

 

Please be careful.

My name is Clive and I am a locoholic. I have developed a secondary addiction, well it is not my fault they are called MULTIPLE UNITS.

 

Two 4 car BRCW units.

 

Arriving at Sheffield Exchange

 

 

A shot from Enterprise Road bridge

 

I could run a full 10 car train (4+4+2 car) but the platforms are not long enough. 

I have used the Hornby 110 for several BRCW conversions , 2 car, 3 car and 4 car. A Gloucester 2 car 100, a Derby 2 car 108, a Derby 2 car long underframe 114, a Derby 107 and both of the Derby Lightweight single cars have been made form the humble 110. I keep thinking about a doing a Press Steel Park Royal 103, I have a 110 that has not as yet been attacked. 

 

I have had a good look at the Heljan 104, Ben was kind enough to take it out the cabinet for me to inspect, it looks the dog's whatsits. Will I buy one? Not too sure yet.

 

On the four car DMU front I have done a Met Cam from Lima units, a Derby 108 from Bachmann coaches, a Derby 115 and a Derby 127.

Edited January 20 by Clive Mortimore
Stooooooopiditie

[Northmoor]

9 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

I have used the Hornby 110 for several BRCW conversions , 2 car, 3 car and 4 car. A Gloucester 2 car 100, a Derby 2 car 108, a Derby 2 car long underframe 114, a Derby 107 and both of the Derby Lightweight single cars have been made form the humble 110. I keep thinking about a doing a Press Steel 103, I have a 110 that has not as yet been attacked. 

 

I thought the Cl.103 was built by Park Royal?

An addiction to Multiple Units and an allergy to paint!  Poor chap.

[Barry Ten]

Here's a little K1 telephone kiosk constructed from the Shire Scenes kit in the Dart castings range.

 

 

The idea is that this 1920s kiosk will be interchangeable with the more familiar K6 red kiosk on my layout. One thing I like about railway modelling is you learn a lot about social history and technology beyond the railway boundary.

 

Cheers, Al

[MJI]

1 hour ago, lezz01 said:

Well there's this one on eBay that could be finished off with little effort.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156013485125?hash=item245320dc45:g:nlEAAOSwAdRlqGoG&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8KdTFv5GiuYn4orczs3BrMLyCXyoU7LbJIBD7rvPwVXNYjeVh79fkgjETYDmH7DUpw7r65fUwdWBMJM4TQuMFe7Fv10%2FQhaRqoJPEhFizgAqhEYEa5bKUgL0L29jqt26r1bfAO7Yw8i%2FAxP2nBSO5GMWRmTkgivnRB9qOfIQLwBOEod6EaQAOC95oDu9A%2FoI3KCAaD53IM5cdFk1QiuN%2BwyLriiP1lnhB2i3G9y7Wc1J7F8EY5WJUYMMP68%2FfKS%2Bdg6Ck%2BzMKB6XvjcAWZDsj%2FSqgENXZKP5r3QoqUvd3rDjxw2Ez9Qr%2B7TgLbxUP2zrQQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7yV3YGlYw

It wouldn't take much to get it running. It's also a very good price.

Regards Lez.

Not appearing in searches for me.

 

As below wrong category

[Clive Mortimore]

51 minutes ago, Northmoor said:

I thought the Cl.103 was built by Park Royal?

An addiction to Multiple Units and an allergy to paint!  Poor chap.

Hi Northy

 

You are right they were, I will edit my post.

 

 

Still can't make up my mind to convert a 110 into a 103.