Tony Wright Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Just the pannier and the PO wagon to sell now, after the other three went at Stamford (making £60.00 for CRUK! - can I make a round £100.00?). It's a very good show and worth attending. See you there today? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted May 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12 I expect this video is old hat to many, but I recently found it and thought there might be some interest. Tim 14 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12 On 07/05/2024 at 17:47, St Enodoc said: It's definitely not a Cotswold - I have one of those too. When I got it, I thought it was Nu-Cast (son of Cotswold?) but I'm sure I saw something on it marked DJH. When I have a chance I'll have another look. In the meantime, a quick search reveals: https://www.ebay.com/itm/364859478867 However, that's the only search result for DJH 42xx, so it's possibly described wrongly, although there's definitely a DJH box in one of the photos. I had a chance to look at 4247 today. For a start, despite what I said above, I couldn't find any markings to indicate that it was a DJH model, so I reckon we can discount that. The chassis is a typical Nu-Cast style thick frames, tubular spacers design, unlike my older Cotswold 4206 that has an ancient milled brass one-piece chassis, shaped to take an X04 motor. 4247's body assembly is subtly different from that on 4206 though. Perhaps when Nu-Cast took over the model and changed the chassis they changed some of the body moulds too? Anyway, I'm not going any further and I think I'm happy now that 4247 is certainly a Nu-Cast model, nicely put together by the late Graham Bradley. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted May 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chas Levin said: Very nice job, but I thought the new Nu-Cast management were able to supply spares now? Mind you, thoroughly in keeping with the oft-stated principles of Wright Write to make things ourselves! 😊 I may not have been keeping up - the last I saw was that the existing kits had been transferred to Branchlines, but there was no clear news about spares or continued production of the kits. Let's hope the range continues. In the meantime, as you say, I kept to the spirit of Wright Writes and now that I've fitted the steps to the loco, they look really good! Edited May 12 by Barry Ten typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Could it be a mistaking of SE Finecast for Nucast. SE Finecast apparently can supply parts for their kits and are now part of Squires. Jason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chas Levin Posted May 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12 Apologies gents - looks like I was the one not keeping up to date! Though as someone commented on the NuCast Partners thread, it's a fast-moving hobby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted May 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12 At ExpoEM today I was able to pick up a several bargains*, including something I've needed for a while, a GCR tender for my K's O4 (which, Tony, you brought back to life at Woking show a few years ago). However, while it appears to be a complete K's tender, unfortunately the chassis has been aligned using a rhombus. What's the best way to dismantle it to rebuild it properly? It's glued together and I seem to recall "dunking it in hot water" as an effective and safe method mentioned on WW before. *A complete Cotswold GWR 72xx kit, part-built, including chassis assembled = £20 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted May 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12 18 minutes ago, Northmoor said: At ExpoEM today I was able to pick up a several bargains*, including something I've needed for a while, a GCR tender for my K's O4 (which, Tony, you brought back to life at Woking show a few years ago). However, while it appears to be a complete K's tender, unfortunately the chassis has been aligned using a rhombus. What's the best way to dismantle it to rebuild it properly? It's glued together and I seem to recall "dunking it in hot water" as an effective and safe method mentioned on WW before. *A complete Cotswold GWR 72xx kit, part-built, including chassis assembled = £20 Simmer in a saucepan of boiling water for a while and it'll revert to it's component parts. Regards Lez. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwal Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The GWR 42/52/7200 2=8=0/2-8-2T locos were also produced by K's. These had 16th inch thick brass chassis with screw assembled spacers. The Sutherland/Cotswold kits mostly had brass block chassis, whilst the Nu-Cast kits mostly had cast witemetal block or 'bar frame' looking chassis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12 (edited) 50 minutes ago, jimwal said: The GWR 42/52/7200 2=8=0/2-8-2T locos were also produced by K's. These had 16th inch thick brass chassis with screw assembled spacers. The Sutherland/Cotswold kits mostly had brass block chassis, whilst the Nu-Cast kits mostly had cast witemetal block or 'bar frame' looking chassis. Thanks. Perhaps 4247 is by K's then? Any detectives out there? Edited May 12 by St Enodoc too many photos 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 31 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Thanks. Perhaps 4247 is by K's then? Any detectives out there? Looks Great Western to me 🤐 3 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13 4 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Any detectives out there? Here are some possible clues/red herrings (caveat - some may be due to different levels of bodgery between Graham and myself): - 4206's footplate is continuous from front to rear. 4247's is in two parts, with the join in line with the tank front. - The rivet patterns are different on the side tanks, bunkers and smokeboxes (hard to describe and I can't get a decent photo). - 4206's cab doors have a representation of a handle near the top. - 4206's whistles are further forward on the firebox top. - 4247's boiler has a more pronounced taper and consequently its firebox projects further above the side tanks. - 4247's cylinders have no backs. - 4206 has a better-defined rivet pattern on the valances. - 4206 has tapered buffers. 4247's are parallel. - 4206's pony truck pivot is in line with the leading drivers. 4247's is in line with the cylinders. - 4206's slidebars, crossheads and side rods appear "finer" than 4247's. Oh, and thanks to @Jesse Sim for pointing us all in the right direction. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) It looks like what eventually became Nu Cast 42xx. The tools had an interesting life starting off as Western Precision Castings, then Sutherland Models and then Cotswold before moving on again to Nu cast. It is the lost wax crosshead that point me in this direction. The above kits would make only the straight frame version, hence the one piece footplate. For the over the cylinder footplate, you had to go down the K's route which came as a two piece casting to allow the alternatives. Note both the K's and the Sutherland kit both became Nu cast to add to the fun. Original frames were a solid milled brass block only replaced by a pair of sides with spacers in the Nu cast years. A GWR 47xx and 4-6-0 County kit had a similar history. Mike Wiltshire Edited May 13 by Coach bogie 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13 14 minutes ago, Coach bogie said: It looks like what eventually became Nu Cast 42xx. The tools had an interesting life starting off as Western Precision Castings, then Sutherland Models and then Cotswold before moving on again to Nu cast. It is the lost wax crosshead that point me in this direction. The above kits would make only the straight frame version, hence the one piece footplate. For the over the cylinder footplate, you had to go down the K's route which came as a two piece casting to allow the alternatives. Note both the K's and the Sutherland kit both became Nu cast to add to the fun. Original frames were a solid milled brass block only replaced by a pair of sides with spacers in the Nu cast years. A GWR 47xx and 4-6-0 County kit had a similar history. Mike Wiltshire Thanks Mike. I should have mentioned that 4206 - definitely Cotswold - has lost-wax crossheads and slidebars (integral with the cylinder backs). The boiler barrel was also, well, barrel-shaped... From what you say, I now think that 4247 is from the Nu-Cast successor to the K's version rather than the Cotswold (and predecessors) version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Baldyoldgit Posted May 13 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13 22 hours ago, Barry Ten said: I may not have been keeping up - the last I saw was that the existing kits had been transferred to Branchlines, but there was no clear news about spares or continued production of the kits. Let's hope the range continues. In the meantime, as you say, I kept to the spirit of Wright Writes and now that I've fitted the steps to the loco, they look really good! I picked up this price list from the Branchlines stand at Expo EM at the weekend. He had kits on his stand. Hope this helps. Tony 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 12/05/2024 at 07:56, CF MRC said: I expect this video is old hat to many... More a familiar friend as it's a perfect time machine, every time I view it. The skinny schoolboy at the South end of WGC up platform could as well be me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 Just to report that I made over £80.00 for CRUK at the Stamford Show over the weekend. This was mainly from sales of my first BRM series of 'budget models', all but the Hornby pannier I reworked being sold. Had this gone, I'd have achieved my target of £100.00, but it'll eventually go... Judging by prices asked for unaltered (and some rather tatty!) equivalents at Stamford, I thought £30.00 was fair. Anyone interested (it's been in print!). I've sold this Jinty from my second 'budget modelling' series already, for £35.00, all proceeds going to CRUK. 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: I thought £30.00 was fair. No front coupler! That knocks a tenner off the value in the perception of 'Mr Economy Purchaser' in my experience. I have one spare somewhere if that will help? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 I have a donated Martin Finney A1/A3 GNR-style eight-wheeled tender kit in 4mm for sale (thanks Andrew). I'm asking £30.00 for it. Anyone interested, please PM me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: No front coupler! That knocks a tenner off the value in the perception of 'Mr Economy Purchaser' in my experience. I have one spare somewhere if that will help? Many thanks, Though I have a spare one which I can fit if required; it just looks better without it, but I take your point. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 The 'power' of Ws! The Finney tender has sold immediately, for more than asked! More to the CRUK fund. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 hours ago, Baldyoldgit said: I spoke to the proprietor of Branchlines at Expo EM. Some kits are available but of those that are not, some may reappear in the future, there is a lot of sorting out to do before that can happen. I was after an ex Great Eastern E4, sadly one of those not currently available. Martyn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted May 13 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 13 (edited) Delighted to say that the pannier has sold! That makes a grand total of £100.00 going to CRUK for the five 'budget' items I worked on (two locos and three items of rolling stock). Rather more than I paid for them! Thanks to all who've bought them Edited May 13 by Tony Wright 11 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted May 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14 (edited) Hello Tony and everyone A friend found the items below during a clear-out of a modeller's garage. I'm not sure what scale the items are but the wheelsets are roughly 42mm back to back. They are sitting on a sheet of A3 paper. If anyone wants the bits and pieces - and I would really insist on 'a modeller' as opposed to 'a dealer' - please PM me. I will post free of charge but will ask you to consider making a small donation to CRUK. Fair enough? Brian Edited May 14 by BMacdermott 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 The couplings with the strange springs look like LGB to me. ( My son used to have garden trains and broke a few) Mike Wiltshire 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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