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There is a lovely entry on a yahoo group called loconotes.  They issue updates to the UP loco roster every month and January's changes have just been posted.  This is an extract.

 

Union Pacific January 2014 Roster Changes by SGW
 
New SD70AH Deliveries (11 units):
UP 8824-8834  (Note 1)
 
New Steam Delivery (1 unit):
UPP 4014
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I believe that they have to register any motive power that is going to be towed dead on mainline tracks.   UP 4014 is a large modern diesel but UP also owns various other prefix's ( can't remember what the correct plural is for that) including all the roads they have taken over eg SP, WP, MP, CNW etc and sometimes use them for purposes such as this.
 
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As far as I know it's not due to move till March and there are likely to be some stopping points on the way.  After all they will more than likely be doing the 20mph that they did getting to Colton so UP will obvioulsy get all the good PR they can with obvious points such as Las Vegas, Salt lake City and ogden.  I suspect that there will be some live webcam coverage again of places like Cajon pass, weber canyon and Sherman Hill.

 

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I suspect that that's going on as we write.  The diesel was moved into the fairplex grounds the same night the big boy was extracted, moving under it's own power with a caboose and a boxcar.  The boxcar is apparently for the museum to use for document storage.  I know that they want to do some work on the Big Boy at West Colton in particualr to get the air brakes working on the rear engine unit and tender.  However my guess is that the 3105 is moving across the car park first.

 

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May I say I have been gripped by this thread.  Having very little knowledge (until recently) of North American railroads this has been a real eye-opener.  I've even bought the Pentrex DVDs "Last of the Giants".  Fantastic stuff, what impressive machines.  

 

Cheyenne in 2019 perhaps?

 

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Chris Turnbull

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May I say I have been gripped by this thread.  Having very little knowledge (until recently) of North American railroads this has been a real eye-opener.  I've even bought the Pentrex DVDs "Last of the Giants".  Fantastic stuff, what impressive machines.  

 

Cheyenne in 2019 perhaps?

 

Regards

 

Chris Turnbull

You certainly won't be the only Brit over there that year.

 

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4014 appears to have been given a short test run recently in West Colton yards:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=476124&nseq=2

Thanks for that.   I did see an entry on the Trains News wire to say that the steam crew had come back to Colton and it was going to be moved over the pits in the Diesel maintenance depot which if I've got the location of that picture correct is behind the photographer on the other side of the bridge where the photo was taken from.  Apparently the steam crew were also on standby for manning the rotary snowploughs which stillhae steam powered auzilliaries, so the main move couldn't take place until after the winter.   It's due to move later this month.

 

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Another update on the Trains website the move is to start on 28th April and the schedule is as follows:-

 

UP confirms Big Boy travel dates to Cheyenne, will depart Colton April 28
Published: April 11, 2014
4014%20move%20Bunce.jpg?bc=000000&mw=225
No. 4014 on the first leg of its journey from Pomona in late January.
Photo by Howard Bunte

LOS ANGELES — Union Pacific has confirmed that 4-8-8-4 Big Boy No. 4014 will depart its West Colton Yard on April 28 at 8 a.m. A total of 27 stops are planned on the 11-day trek to Cheyenne, including all-day displays in Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Ogden.

Trains Magazine will provide complete Internet coverage of the move of No. 4014 on the road to restoration. Live streaming will be offered from beginning to end, with the broadcast schedule to be determined.

For the latest information, go to www.up.com/aboutup/special_trains/steam/details.shtml as the tour unfolds.

All times are local. The schedule includes:

April 28:

Depart 8 a.m. Bloomington, Calif. - 19100 Slover Ave.

Arrive 10:30 a.m. Canyon, Calif. – inspect locomotive
Depart 11 a.m. Hwy 138 and Lone Pine Canyon Rd

Arrive 12:30 p.m. Victorville, Calif. – inspect locomotive
Depart 1:15 p.m. Amtrak Station - 16838 D St.

Arrive: 3:15 p.m. Barstow - Whistle stop
Depart: 3:30 p.m. Amtrak Station - 685 N 1st Ave.

Arrive 5:30 p.m. Yermo, Calif. – Union Pacific yard
Dusty Trail and Jellico St.


April 29:

Depart 8 a.m. Yermo, Calif. – Union Pacific yard
Dusty Trail and Jellico St.

Arrive 12:30 p.m. Kelso, Calif. – Service, Old Depot
Depart 1:15 p.m. Cima-Kelso Rd and Kelbacker Rd

Arrive 4:15 p.m. Jean, Nev. - inspect locomotive
Depart 4:45 p.m. Prison Rd. crossing

Arrive 6:15 p.m. Las Vegas, Nev. – Union Pacific yard
1001 Ironhorse Ct.

April 30 – Layover and Display:
Union Pacific rail yard
1001 Ironhorse Ct.
Las Vegas, Nev.
9 a.m. – 4 p.m.

May 1:

Depart 7 a.m. Las Vegas, Nev. – Union Pacific yard
1001 Ironhorse Ct.

Arrive 9:15 a.m. Moapa, Nev. – inspect locomotive
Depart 9:45 a.m. Near Hwy. 168 overpass

Arrive 1:30 p.m. PDT Caliente, Nev. - inspect locomotive
Depart 1:45 p.m. PDT Spring St. crossing

Arrive 5 p.m. MDT Modena, Utah - inspect locomotive
Depart 5:30 p.m. MDT Modena Rd. near old water tower.

Arrive 8:30 p.m. MDT Milford, Utah – Union Pacific rail yard
200 South St. East and 100 East St. South

May 2:

Depart 8 a.m. MDT Milford, Utah. Union Pacific rail yard
200 South St. East and 100 East St. South

Arrive 10:30 a.m. Clear Lake, Utah – inspect locomotive
Depart 11 a.m. Clear Lake Rd. crossing
Arrive 12:01 p.m. Delta, Utah – Whistle stop
Depart 12:15 p.m. Union Pacific office - 357 West St.

Arrive 4:45 p.m. Stockton, Utah – Whistle stop
Depart 5 p.m. Silver Ave. crossing

Arrive 7:45 p.m. Salt Lake City, Utah
1020 Warm Springs Rd.

Saturday, May 3 – Layover and Display:
1020 Warm Springs Rd.
Salt Lake City, Utah
9 a.m. – 4 p.m.

May 4:

Depart 8 a.m. Salt Lake City, Utah
1020 Warm Springs Rd.

Arrive 11:45 a.m. Ogden, Utah – Ogden Depot
2501 Wall Ave.

May 5 – Layover and Display:
Ogden Depot
2501 Wall Ave.
Ogden, Utah
9 a.m. – 4 p.m.

May 6

Depart 8 a.m. Ogden, Utah – Ogden Depot, 2501 Wall Ave.

Arrive 10:45 a.m. Echo, Utah – Whistle stop
Depart 11:15 a.m. Echo Rd crossing

Arrive 12:45 p.m. Evanston, Wyo. - inspect locomotive
Depart 1:15 p.m. Old Depot – 10 10th St.

Arrive 4 p.m. Granger, Wyo. - inspect locomotive
Depart 4:30 p.m. Main St. crossing

Arrive 5:45 p.m. Green River, Wyo. – Whistle stop
Depart 6:15 p.m. 200 E. Railroad Ave.

Arrive 7:30 p.m. Rock Springs, Wyo. – 501 N. Front St.


May 7:

Depart 8 a.m. Rock Springs, Wyo. - 501 N. Front St.

Arrive 11:30 p.m. Wamsutter, Wyo. - inspect locomotive
Depart 12:01 p.m. Old water tower near Broadway St.

Arrive 1:30 p.m. Rawlins, Wyo. - inspect locomotive
Depart 2 p.m. W. Front St. at 4th St.

Arrive 4:15 p.m. Medicine Bow, Wyo. - inspect locomotive
Depart 4:45 p.m. McCadden Rd. (Hwy. 30) crossing

Arrive 7:30 p.m. Laramie, Wyo. – Old Depot

May 8:

Reposition 8:30 a.m. Laramie, Wyo. – Old Depot
S. First St. and E. Kearney St.
Depart 10:00 a.m. Laramie, Wyo. – Old Depot
S. First St. and E. Kearney St.

Arrive 1 p.m. Cheyenne, Wyo. – Depot Museum
121 W. 15th St.

 

Looks like many more wasted days as I watch the webcam, particularly in the areas that I know well.

 

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Another update on the Trains website the move is to start on 28th April and the schedule is as follows:-

 

UP confirms Big Boy travel dates to Cheyenne, will depart Colton April 28
Published: April 11, 2014
4014%20move%20Bunce.jpg?bc=000000&mw=225
No. 4014 on the first leg of its journey from Pomona in late January.
Photo by Howard Bunte

LOS ANGELES — Union Pacific has confirmed that 4-8-8-4 Big Boy No. 4014 will depart its West Colton Yard on April 28 at 8 a.m. A total of 27 stops are planned on the 11-day trek to Cheyenne, including all-day displays in Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Ogden.

 

All times are local. The schedule includes:

 

April 28:

 

Depart 8 a.m. Bloomington, Calif. - 19100 Slover Ave.

 

 

May 8:

 

 

Arrive 1 p.m. Cheyenne, Wyo. – Depot Museum

121 W. 15th St.

 

 

Fingers crossed on this schedule then. We're due in Denver 10 days later and she's down as being on display at the Cheyenne open weekend (along with 3985 & 844). http://www.cheyennedepotmuseum.org/depot-days

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Does that mean that they'll have to renumber one of them as they did with 844?

They may do as they've done that with the Challenger  3985 which comes in the middle of a block of modern diesels, one of which was renumbered.  At the moment the Big Boy has been officially numbered as UPP 4014 and registered on the national computer system.  UPP is the prefix they use for their fleet of passenger cars.   When it becomes an operating loco they may well have to renumber it in to the main UP series, but that won't be for a few years.  The registration has only to be done if it's to move across the network.

 

 

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The webcam is now up and running on www.trains.com but you need to be registered or a subscriber to view it.  At the moment they are set up on the overbridge at the eastern end of Colton West yard watching all the traffic in and out of the yard but are still waiting for the Big Boy to appear.

 

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