RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted January 18, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2014 So it sounds like it was worth the wait? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Well blow me down with a feather......A Star has arrived from the East. A ltd edition from Steam. I won't ever be able to sell it as "mint boxed" (not that I ever intend to part with it but thar not the point) though as it was double wrapped in bubble wrap and then wrapped in brown paper. This is clearly not sufficient as the box is squished and crumpled and a hole/tear in one corner. Having worked in a busy mail order model store in years gone by I find it incredulous that its not been sent in a sturdy cardboard outer box. I shall regrettably have to have a moan to Steam. Grrrrrrr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 22, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I think the 10 spoke wheels make a major difference as the bogie is pretty obvious and depending on viewing angle it stands out all too much. Pity Bachmann don't use 10 spoke wheels on the 56XX trailing truck (Yes, like Hornby they have used 12 spokes!!!) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Bachmann+56XX&client=firefox-a&hs=Dd5&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=7gHo89u0poF6xM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcR1n4BaejF20TZCnS3uFjI_PohdAlvBwtOl-8BD0QTeAqCEDQN12w%253B500%253B385%253BuqbdjZyJqEFS4M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.flickriver.com%25252Fphotos%25252Ftrainsandstuff%25252Fsets%25252F72157607973312657%25252F&sa=X&ei=qiPgUrDNK4mw7Qb564Ag&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ&biw=1366&bih=638#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=7gHo89u0poF6xM%253A%3BuqbdjZyJqEFS4M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%252F3215%252F2935380413_7b9e155908.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.flickriver.com%252Fphotos%252Ftrainsandstuff%252Fsets%252F72157607973312657%252F%3B500%3B385 Keith Edited January 22, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Had a chance to get the model out for 1st inspection. Problem A. Left hand side cylinder rear cover and slide bars hanging out....no glue on it by the look of it. Problem B. Right hand side ejector support bracket behind the cab steps snapped. Hornby need a kick up the A**e ! As others have stated we've had to wait a heck of a long time for some pretty poor build quality. It just ain't cricket chaps ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2014 Pity Bachmann don't use 10 spoke wheels on the 56XX trailing truck (Yes, like Hornby they have used 12 spokes!!!) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Bachmann+56XX&client=firefox-a&hs=Dd5&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=7gHo89u0poF6xM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcR1n4BaejF20TZCnS3uFjI_PohdAlvBwtOl-8BD0QTeAqCEDQN12w%253B500%253B385%253BuqbdjZyJqEFS4M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.flickriver.com%25252Fphotos%25252Ftrainsandstuff%25252Fsets%25252F72157607973312657%25252F&sa=X&ei=qiPgUrDNK4mw7Qb564Ag&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ&biw=1366&bih=638#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=7gHo89u0poF6xM%253A%3BuqbdjZyJqEFS4M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%252F3215%252F2935380413_7b9e155908.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.flickriver.com%252Fphotos%252Ftrainsandstuff%252Fsets%252F72157607973312657%252F%3B500%3B385 Keith Mind you the big advantage on the 56Xx is that you can't see the radial wheels from many angles and it is very difficult to see the spokes at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Having ordered mine from Steam last June, and working in Poland, I wasn't too worried about a fast delivery. However, as I'm spending a couple of weeks in blighty, I thought I'd better rattle a cage at Steam and find out what the position was. It seems mine was posted to Norfolk last December, but didn't arrive. Apparently a couple were returned by Royal Mail, when the address labels fell off! Geoff at Steam was a real help, yesterday on the phone, and a replacement is on the way (signed for). Full marks to him. I just hope Lode is all in one piece and it works! Edit for punctuation. Edited January 23, 2014 by DavidR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I just hope Lode is all in one piece and it works! Edit for punctuation. Good luck on that front ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 No aesthetic problems with mine, but I'm yet to run her. Once she's run in I'll start to detail her. On Bottesford turntable; 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2014 No aesthetic problems with mine, but I'm yet to run her. Once she's run in I'll start to detail her. On Bottesford turntable; Hopefully starting with a set of etched plates,which will transform the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but she's immediately shorted and subsequently cooked the Hornby decoder.... runs perfectly on analogue but the decoder is kaput Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Riley Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but she's immediately shorted and subsequently cooked the Hornby decoder.... runs perfectly on analogue but the decoder is kaput Mine hasn't cooked any decoders but I found it din't run nicely with a Hornby decoder. Now using a Lenz silver which is fine until it gets a Zimo. But even with the Lenz I wasn't happy with slow running in reverse - a little jerky. Yesterday I replaced the motor with a Mashima 1624 and now it is very smooth in both directions. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 She either shorts out after five minutes or becomes completely unresponsive to the controller. I'll sideline her for a bit, but managed to get some video on a Mk.1 / Thompson Compo set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCuckoo Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Mine runs beautifully - forwards and backwards - very smooth, very quiet. Lenz silver decoder, tried with both my Hornby Select controller and my new Hornby eLink. Edit: Mine is "Knight of the Garter" Edited January 26, 2014 by TheCuckoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60800 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Video as promised ( Red Dwarf on't telly ); Edited January 26, 2014 by Blackout60800 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I look at how detailed most of the Star is and then look at those molded handrails and all I can say is ,WHY ?? Whoever thought that was a great idea should now be sat at home crying into their P45. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2014 I look at how detailed most of the Star is and then look at those molded handrails and all I can say is ,WHY ?? Whoever thought that was a great idea should now be sat at home crying into their P45. I think the reason behind it is very simple - they ran out of development money. Or to be more exact the tooling designers/production designers were given a budget and that was it - or to be more precise in the case of those handrails that wasn't it. Technically of course there is no problem at all in moulding the vertical handrail at the back end of the cab sidesheet with fresh air between it and the sidesheet but it does increase the tooling cost while having a separate horizontal handrail on the sidesheet either complicates the tooling or adds a few pence to the assembly cost. It's spoiling the ship for a ha-porth of tar (again) in my view but that's what we've been given and at least there is 'Star' with a very good body shape out of the work they did do - fortunately the accountants and money men didn't muck up that aspect of the model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2014 Star R 3167/ 3167X arriving from the east....Hornby e-mail now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not even the faintest rumor of the three Kings though..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2014 Not even the faintest rumor of the three Kings though..... Well there is a hint of a rumour ... but ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCuckoo Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Today I had a confirmation email that my replacement bogie wheels will be sent out sometime in the next week... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I look at how detailed most of the Star is and then look at those molded handrails and all I can say is ,WHY ?? Whoever thought that was a great idea should now be sat at home crying into their P45. I think that when I look at my Bachmann C class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I think that when I look at my Bachmann C class. This has me slightly puzzled. The Bachmann C Class has a separate smoke-box door handles moulding. The cab-side vertical handrail is moulded but has daylight between it and the cab side sheet. I cannot see how a RTR company can fit a metal one in this position. The Tender vertical handrail is moulded too but does not have daylight between it and the tender side sheet. Is this the thing you are critical of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi-go-a-go-go Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I would really like one of these in early GW but Lode star is just too expensive. dont get me wrong i am more than happy to pay for an excellent model but many of these replys just put me off. Maybe if 'Steam' do their own QC on them so i am more likely to get a good un. Shame i have supported the NRM's Bachmann specials cheerho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The Star is a very good model. I think all manufacturers have stopped supplying etched name plates now, like wise the 12 spokes can be replaced by 10 spokes (although I am not how you contact Hornby about it). You then have moulded vertical cab rails, not a worry as you won,t really notice them and Bachmann did the same on a recent loco as well. In fact my T9 has moulded vertical cab hand rails with day light that broke too easily, so the star is wise here. The only slight downer are the small horizontal cab handrails that look more like little cab wings. That is it really, not enough to put me off the fine model. BTW, these are very easy to remove, replace with wire ones and touch up the paint. They are so thin, you could flick them off with your finger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The Star is a very good model. I think all manufacturers have stopped supplying etched name plates now, The nameplates are etched. the whole splasher/nameplate is a separate painted etched brass section that has been slotted in. Turn the model upside down and you can see the locking tab sticking through the running plate. You can push it out to reveal a plain splasher Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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