RMweb Gold Happy Hippo Posted June 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 Sasquatch, Before you do go changing signals, my research into GWR and BR(W) signalling practice (assisted by others on this forum) would suggest that a shorter arm on the bracket signal for a main to siding movement is quite acceptable, and there were many such arrangements. ie Milverton on the Barnstaple line: See http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwe/S768.htm There are many other examples if you care to trawl through the site. Regards Richard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 "...a shorter arm on the bracket signal for a main to siding movement is quite acceptable ..." I would say not merely 'acceptable', but essential. However it should be noted that the older GWR used a particular type of small bracketed arm for goods entry. As regards Milverton, old pictures may show that type of arrangement, whilst in BR days the bracket was removed altogether and replaced by a ground disc. The 'problem' here - whilst recognisng the well-known 'modeller's licence' - is that the layout as shown combines a variation of both early and late BR period signalling superimposed on a track layout which never existed, ie a down facing siding off the single line just west of the level-crossing. IMHO either you need to replicate an actual layout and its signalling, or else modify the signalling to match the layout that you wish to use. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) The sgnal I built up combined two ratio kits one quite old with sectioal posts that I drilled out in order to pass mico fillament wires to light the lamps. The signals are removeable and fully opperational! This was not easy to achieve. There is a picture somewhere on the internet showing Dunster signal box being jacked up and loaded on to a well wagon (I would assume). It also shows a junction bracket signal with two arms albeit without the arms themselves, both red! The layouts old configuration was suited to this as the line split in two just past the gates towards the fiddle yard. Now I have changed this by adding a new 4' section the signal is wrong. I should construct a new signal with a disc! Still, working signals are so much fun I am more concerned with building signals for my other layout Goathland which faces the same problem as the signaling differs over time periods. So I might have to start waving my modellers licence about. Shaun Edited June 25, 2013 by Sasquatch 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 "There is a picture somewhere on the internet showing Dunster signal box being jacked up and loaded on to a well wagon (I would assume). It also shows a junction bracket signal with two arms albeit without the arms themselves, both red!" That photo would date from early years of preservation, when the signal-box was moved to its current location at Minehead. The bracket signal in the view would be the one that was installed in 1966. Do not forget also that you will need a trap point at the exit from the west siding and a ground disc there. Also, looking at the pix, videos and plan, I can't see any sign of an Up Home to protect the siding connection and the west crossing, nor a Down Home at the other end. If you are going to spend time making working signals, then I think it would be worthwhile looking more closely at this matter so that you put the right ones in the right places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2013 Thats right! I added the up starter for opperational interest. The lamp in it cost more than the kit which I found at a show for a quid. The best pound I think I ever spent. I also realise that the down distant should be fixed so I could install the siding disc and use the control from the distant. There are so many projects on the go already its hard not to get distracted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'm puzzled really why you have bothered to include the Minehead Down Distant anyway, especially given that it in reality it would have been much further away and hence 'off scene'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted June 26, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) Its a model! ,far from accurate. When I go on to model Minehead that will be very compressed also and only a scale 225 yards from Dunster!! I will try to find that book you recommeded first I think, budget allowing of course! Edited June 26, 2013 by Sasquatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gazmanjack Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Great layout and some nice video. Cheers, Gary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted August 30, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2013 Today Dunster has been taken apart so a few interesting pics which show how it all goes together (or should that be comes apart). The fiddle yard. Ian Rice stile puzzle piece sections. Sad to put it into storage 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailWest Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I may well be at the real Dunster on Sunday - I hope that'll still be in one piece!! Is this 'demolition' just temporary???? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted August 30, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2013 I may well be at the real Dunster on Sunday - I hope that'll still be in one piece!! Is this 'demolition' just temporary???? Hi Chris, Yes we're moving house! there's more about it at the end of my Goathland thread. Enjoy your day out. I'll make it there one day. Shaun 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted September 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2013 (edited) Have just measured the attic rooms in the new house and found that Dunster will fit in one of them albeit in its 16' guise. It is fully decorated with carpet and heating there is even 2 windows. Question is how do we get it up the awkward steep little stair-case. Edited: because I can't spell to save my life. Edited September 15, 2013 by Sasquatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted September 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi Sasquatch, just returned to this thread and see I've missed a lot great updates. I especially like those evening shots. Great stuff. Glad to hear that Dunster will be back up again in your new house, as you say it would be a real shame to dismantle it for good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted September 15, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi Mikkel, It was designed to come apart and goes together quite quickly. We take it to the local show here each year. And once had it broken down and in the truck in about 45 mins! Real fun. I'm glad that I didn't destroy the corner pub section of which I should post a picture on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted September 16, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2013 Here are a few poor pictures we took a while ago. This pub is a Wills craftsman kit that I had to find a spot on this layout for. I know it would be more at home on the LBSCR deep in Sussex but I think it is the best OO building kit on the market and wasn't going to waste it after all the hours spent building it. The layout at the Medford show in 2008 Some sixtiesish pics And 1930s ish 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmanjack Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 That's a cracking black n' white shot ! Brilliant. Cheers, Gary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) WOW Shaun, thanks for pointing this out to me on FY, what a beauty, love the working gates and your good lady take a mean Video, I can see why you married her, hahha It really deserves to be on page one and more comments on the work you have achieved and the Videos will be worth a second look later. All the best, Bodgit EDIT = Had to put and extra O in Good, it said God Lady, hahhaa Edited December 6, 2013 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass0four Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 WOW Shaun, thanks for pointing this out to me on FY, what a beauty, love the working gates and your good lady take a mean Video, I can see why you married her, hahha It really deserves to be on page one and more comments on the work you have achieved and the Videos will be worth a second look later. All the best, Bodgit EDIT = Had to put and extra O in Good, it said God Lady, hahhaa God Lady sounds about right to me. Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted December 10, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Been playing with the new camera this evening. Click on the images to make them really pop out! Edited December 10, 2013 by Sasquatch 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass0four Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Been playing with the new camera this evening. Click on the images to make them really pop out! Stunning stuff - You really do like your evening shots! It's particularly good to see all the signal-lever linkages down below, you rarely find this modelled ;-) And the diesel... I really like them, but I recently over-did the purse buying teak-sleepers and full-brakes - and they aren't even my period! But I did need something for my few fondly owned LNER locos: - Blue A4s, Grey Silver Link and the green engines - Flying Scotsman, etc. I didn't have a damn thing for them to haul! Tony. Edited December 10, 2013 by Brass0four Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Bear Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Excellent modelling; agree with the above do like the nights shots, especially the signal box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Woweeeeeeee Shaun, great set of pics, I love the lighting of the interior in the buildings. More more more please. Bodgit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted December 10, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'll wait until it gets dark then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Maiden Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Lovely modelling there Shaun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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