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Unidentified GER locations 1910 - 1940 can you help


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I have posted another 10  up on Flickr and hope you enjoy them, we are now getting towards the end of those which were unidentified, there are more which are identified which I may post to see if further information about them can be gleaned, even if just dating evidence. Once again hope you enjoy them.

 

Duncan

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Regarding Harwich Town, here's a recent view of the station frontage courtesy of Google Streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/RhFXM, and one taken in 1975. 

 

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Here's a view of the station platforms (from the buffer stop end) taken on the same day in 1975.

 

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Clearly a large part of the station buildings had been demolished between the Russell and the 1975 photos.

 

The clear signage showing the station name in BR times makes me wonder whether the lack of similar nameboards - both outside and on the platfoms - could indicate the Second World War period, when such names were likely to have been removed (Harwich being particularly vulnerable to enemy incursion).

 

(Please note that I've also sent you a PM, Duncan).

 

 

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I have just posted the last of this collection, amongst them is the very rare sight of a WD 2-10-0 in WD livery on the GER section at Great Chesterford http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9008753897/ a series abroad starting with this lovley terminus http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009935908/ a loco that lookks positivley American http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009957618/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009960854/ and of course some classic GER locations known and unknown such as Ongar http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9008786199/, Epping shed? http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009972780/ and Norwich before electrification http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009968794/ and quite a few more.

 

As ever any information on dates or anything else will really be appreciated. I heop you have enjoyed seeing them, next will be the work of F.H Stingemore (only a couple of GE views I'm affraid)

 

Kind regards

 

Duncan

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The two clearer shots of "foreign" locomotives are both Spanish (including the "American" one, details added to Flickr), which might suggest some other non-British shots are taken in Iberia (although some look to have been from an earlier time).  Spain nationalised her railways with the formation of RENFE in 1941, in the photographs both locomotives carry there original numbering (MZA and Norte), suggesting that the photographs were taken before that date.

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Has anyone ascertained the location of the "first" viaduct you put up? The one with the car nose poking out through the arch? I seem to be having problems with Flickr. Perhaps they think I'm from the CIA...

 

Best, Pete.

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Dunno the link says the server is down!

If I remember correctly the parapet (on the outside) didn't look like Chelmsford...the print looked considerably younger than most of the others...

 

Best, Pete.

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Wow, thanks for the help, I had never seen Spanish steam pictures so would have never thought that in a million years. Alot of the negatives appear to date from about 1907 to the late 40s and the foreign ones are on very thin accetate.

 

The viaduct was Chelmsford

 

What I can't get my head round is that amongst my glass negs are some that are in another collection. I wonder if 2 negs were taken or the other collection has a print?

 

There are now only about 20 to 40 other images all of which are identified and which I will post up as it seams as if they have been enjoyed. Much better to be enjoyed than all the collectors who pay megga money on ebay and then the images are hidden away.

 

Regards

 

Duncan

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Pete,

 

If you mean the one I think you mean, then yes. It's Chelmsford Station Viaduct No.150

 

This one? http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/8753343189/

 

Dave

 

 

Dunno the link says the server is down!

If I remember correctly the parapet (on the outside) didn't look like Chelmsford...the print looked considerably younger than most of the others...

 

Best, Pete.

The http:// is doubled up

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My feeling is that, apart from the Spanish ones, the foreign pictures are from Scandinavia - probably Norway.

Thanks Andy,

The suggestion seams likley based on that link you posted on the loco, now the question is where?

 

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Duncan

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I thought Scandinavia too. The way the locals are dressed looks more appropriate for Scandinavia than Spain. Also the locos too. I am sure i have seen photos of some very similar in Norway or Denmark?

 

Photo Untitled-9l has 2-Kl as the class designation - definitely north European or Scandinavian.

 

Compare the general look of http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009935908/in/photostream/ with the loco on the K&ESR midway down the page - not exactly the same, but stylistically very similar.http://locoyard.com/tag/norwegian/

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My feeling is that, apart from the Spanish ones, the foreign pictures are from Scandinavia - probably Norway.

This one http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/9009935908/ is definitely Norway.  It is Oslo Østbanestasjon (Oslo Ø or Oslo East), as can be seen from this rather splendid Youtube clip:

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The trainshed was demolished in the late 'seventies when the new Oslo Sentralstasjon was being constructed on the site.

 

I would agree with Andy that NSB type 18 is the likely identity of the locomotives.

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Thanks to you both, that makes total sense being Oslo, now we just need to tie down the locations of the others in Scandinavia, if possible. We will return to the pure GER next with some of the negs that could be identified straight away. 

 

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Duncan

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I did check Google around the Parkway and now agree it is the Chelmsford Viaduct........

 

My God Chelmsford has been raised and rebuilt since I was last there - which was about the time that Fleetwood Mac (with Peter Green) jammed with The Nashville Teens at the Pub next to the Station. Lion and Lamb? Lamb and Flag????

 

Best, Pete.

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Sadly its true of most of these locations, I posted the last few ones from this collection onto flickr last night http://www.flickr.com/photos/29644579@N07/with/9009935908/ including Stansted, Six Mile Bottom and Whatton.

 

I really want to say thanks for all your help on identifying these images. It has been interesting learing that some of these only prints were thought to survive till now, while others were completley new. There were about 4 or so I did not win, so goodness knows where they are, but they are lost from this collection.

 

There will be some more GER views, but of engines rather than stations as the next collection I am currently scanning all from about 1920 to about 23 I think are mainly loco views, with alot on the Midland, some on the GN, GE, LSWR, and GW.

 

Once again thanks for your help, and I hope they have brought some enjoyment.

 

kind regards

 

Duncan

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