Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) the white line is atrocious, but the shiny sides continue to dull down nicely, a number of the sleeper appear a bit high....but after checking various Railway magazines for pictures of the real thing...that actually happens a lot. So I am in no mad rush to top the ballast up. Although a number of fill jobs where the platform edge meets the ballast floor needed filling in as there were gaps. Although I notice there is a lot of pictures where the ballast between the rails is much darker than other ballast in the vicinity rmweb2041kalboro34 The ballast between the tracks is often a lot dirtier than the ballast nearby rmweb539peterborough4 rmweb553peterborough44 Edited June 18, 2014 by Jaz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hi Jaz that whole station area looks superb - the ballasting looks great - I always prefer this kind of mixed colour ballasting rather than the flat grey that a lot of layouts use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 ... and when he took her upstairs to his attic, and revealed his sorid pleasures, she squealed with unbridled joy:.................. He thought he had gone to Heaven when she slowly turned towards him and .......................... ...................... shamelessly ................. revealed her ...................... best secret yet .................. ........................ her pair of ....................... twin .... Pair of Peaks by JulianR 2013, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 on our layout, these platforms have the tapered ends, the ones at Peterborough were tapered originally because at one time passengers walked down the slope to cross the tracks. But in the recent overhaul there are now a number of new platform ends sited on top of the old platform ends and they no longer slope. rmweb2043kalboro36 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 the 3 lanes at the back need a LOT of work. Kal pointed out that you would never have the ladder at that angle much more upright, this whole area looks a bit messy, and in need of TLC. These tracks at the back being used less were painted more rusty...and am still pleased with that effect. rmweb2042kalboro35 but otherwise there is a lot of work to do here......mostly ballasting just beyond Kalboro platforms. rmweb2044kalboro37 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oh, dear... what have I started?????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted June 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2014 Oh, dear... what have I started?????? I love how Jaz is completely ignoring the smut... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I love how Jaz is completely ignoring the smut... ....on the thread at least..... PMs on the other hand have fallen to a new low........ ........ Edited June 18, 2014 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 and a by product of the airbrushing..........some of the ballasting got blown away.......and not in a good way plus Kal has some trouble finding a pro type for the mess on the platform sides....so if anyone is aware of ...or can produce pictures...it will save me hours scrapping off the bloop on the platform sides. rmweb2045kalboro38 and an overview.........(don't forget the back of the new area where the art deco signal box sits is not a finished product...merely coloured so as to not stand out like a sore thumb. rmweb2046kalboro39 repairing the blown ballast was not too difficult, and lowering the psi helped reduce further damage. thinning the paint also helped And an old picture of Kalboro img 1334 or two....with no ballast at all img 1321 So there is no major changes, just improved (hope you agree) dressing still loads more pictures to come....... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I shouldn't comment ............ So there is no major changes, just improved (hope you agree) dressing......... .................. I'm going before I do ........... ........... still loads more pictures to come....... ........................................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Back to the back of Kalboro..... rmweb2068kalboro40 despite a light airbrushing whilst there was colour left....this area is raggedy to say the least further along certain details attract the eye, but still as you look around it is in sad need of some work rmweb2069kalboro41 and it occurred to me that Kal wanted to test out the concrete idea...and perhaps here at the back might be a safer place to have a go rmweb2070kalboro42 first off should i attack the whole area? Or place safe and trial a patch? rmweb2071kalboro43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I had a good look to decide where to start rmweb2072kalboro44 and meantime more colour continued to remove the shine of the tracks rmweb2073kalboro45 and I decided to leave the last platform. Because the Peterborough platforms are clearly not all the same....no continuity even on the refurbished areas.And I just thought the paler colour looked better in the background So I decided that the area where the shed seats is probably the worst....Kal had mentioned this several times in the past And a decision on just how far out to bring the concrete base rmweb2075kalboro47 So a last view.....before removing the buildings and trackside detail rmweb2076kalboro48 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 so finally ....no more teasing......the concrete base.... rmweb2077kalboro49 I used plaster filler from a tub and a spreader. Kal did mention I should have done the edges shaper.....but when you consider I will certainly extend it....this should make a join easier to sort. it does go up at the back but a recolour there will sort that out Once it started to dry....but was not actually dry I got out a pair of spare wheels and run them back wards and forwards in order to ensure I did not mess up the track. This area is due to have a pit ...but I believe cutting in should not be too difficult and wanted to tested the initial concrete idea. I thought bought a textured surface but felt it would not be easy to see at 1:76 so just went for as flat a finish as possible once dried I popped the shed back on to see the initial effect rmweb2978kalboro50 Ther'es enough room for the sander and the shed. rmweb2079kalboro51 Kal has requested that I go past the crane when I add the next lot. And you'll notice I topped up the ballast whilst it was drying. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Ladder Angles.........especially, for telegraph poles..................... Edited June 18, 2014 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hi Jaz, You might be applying a Concrete paint, but beware the Green Scene stuff, as it has quite large bits of texture in it, which seem OK for G gauge, but large for OO. Railmatch seems better texture but [for me] the colour might do better with some of your skills. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Hi Jaz, You might be applying a Concrete paint, but beware the Green Scene stuff, as it has quite large bits of texture in it, which seem OK for G gauge, but large for OO. Railmatch seems better texture but [for me] the colour might do better with some of your skills. I have been using the Railmatch concrete..... in general (IMO) it has a pleasing effect especially if overlaid an initial grey coloured item. I often touch up the area whilst wet, or before or after, with some water onto which I let some black or brown seep through so that it spreads naturally. The result appears more natural to me, and allows especially for rain fall and puddles and the subsequent distribution of dirt. Edit = Also I know from observation that the Railmatch greeny tinge is realistic in as much as where my two female dobermanns pee on the stone patio, if it is not cleanly periodically we get a green tinge then a green growth. So I always think that that effect is fairly realistic. I can produce photographs ...if anyone wants proof... Edit = I have to admit I have not tried the green scene product so cannot comment on it. Edited June 18, 2014 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A Cherry Picker, or scaffold,..ladder ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) You might be applying a Concrete paint, but beware the Green Scene stuff, John @ Greenscenes, advised me to use a spatula, when applying,.........not a brush Edited June 18, 2014 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Ladder Angles.........especially, for telegraph poles..................... Good to know........if you have an extra long ladder and a lot protrudes of the top of the point the ladder is leaning on....is there an algorithm to adjust for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 A Cherry Picker, or scaffold,..ladder ? cherry pickers....shudders....... having had a bad experience with a cherry picker which involved the insurance we paid for not covering accidental damage (which was the reason we took it out in the first place!!!) and a whacking big bill for £800!!!! I steer clear of such items. If we had moved the cherry picker off our property and claimed some idiot had stolen it...damaged it....then abandoned it....we would have been covered.....needless to say NEVER bothered with the insurance again....as pretty useless if it does not cover accidental damaged....... for those interested in the circumstances.......a rope attached to the top caught on a tree and unnoticed we lowered the cherry picker and bent the protection cage....to be honest thought the bill more than excessive but as they showed a bill for the work carried out we were in no position to argue. Lesson learned check what the insurance covers!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 John @ Greenscenes, advised me to use a spatula, when applying,.........not a brush can you link to a picture on your layout with an example of its use? Would be interest to see the result. Am doing some work with 'concrete' at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) algorithm Edited June 18, 2014 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 And a nice loco to spice it up and check the tracks ok rmweb2080kalboro52 rmweb2081kalboro53 rmweb2082kalboro54 you may notice I have removed the signal box up on the track behind and replaced it with a small line side building instead, the track there only has one point it adds a tack for some washer then joins back to the main track so a full-size signal box was not geographically correct and was overkill for just one additional line that rejoined in no time at all. I have several track details ready to put laid down one the track is at a finished colour. Orange pipes and various signalling equipment detectors are all soon to be popped onto the layout. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass0four Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Hi J 'n K, Glad you're back. Almost performed a posting idiocy whilst suffering from AV withdrawal (posted but deleted) Anyway, main problem (apart from the pitch-angle) with the ladder is it is grossly over-scale*: the *rounds* (rungs to the uninitiated) would be as thick as your arms. Also, a portable ladder this long would not exist without at least one - more likely two - extensions. Nobody could carry it, much less pitch it. This is one area where I can claim some expertise: as a Fireman I handled the damn things too often for my health. *Many things you can get away with - I'm no rivet-counter - but not with ladders, especially portable ones. And even the permanent, like the Bachmann Sanders with their H 'n S protections, are grossly over-scale, too. About the cutting: I'd urbanise it by fitting retaining-walls for most of it. Rock cuttings are rare in such locations. Then you could paint an urban back-scene beyond the elevated track? Regards, Tony. edit: the chalk examples of the Southern are a prototype example of such cuttings, but they are white, which never works for me in model terms, even the best of 'em. Edited June 18, 2014 by Brass0four Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I am grateful for the information that ............... Posted Today, 17:05algorithm ........... is not Biggles friend singing while they are crashing ... again ..... Edit - I wish I wuz btr at spellin Edited June 18, 2014 by jcredfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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