Killybegs Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Probably a string vest too.... No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) We're talking elegance befitting an MG Tickford drophead coupe Spot on. What a pity we didn't know at the time what these cars would be worth in the future. I think Dad sold it to a couple of lads for a tenner! It was written off within a week (plenty of speed but poor handling by today's standards). Talking of standards, our first car was an old Standard 10, max speed 30mph with a following wind and a reluctance to go up hills (especially with 3 kids and holiday luggage in the back). Edited September 5, 2017 by Killybegs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolseley Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Spot on. What a pity we didn't know at the time what these cars would be worth in the future. I think Dad sold it to a couple of lads for a tenner! It was written off within a week (plenty of speed but poor handling by today's standards). I have the same thoughts when I recall my father selling our Jowett Javelin (it was a very early Javelin - either a PA or PB model) for $100 in 1966. The car is however, still around, as I found out when talking to a member of the Jowett Car Club at the All British Day at Parramatta a few years ago - it's in a club member's garage (just four miles away from where my parents used to live no less) awaiting restoration. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I always think the same about the give away prices I sold all my Mk1 & 2 Escorts for - or the wife's mint Mk1 XR2 with less than 30,000 miles we let go for £300. I've seen similar condition ones going for almost £20K recently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I always think the same about the give away prices I sold all my Mk1 & 2 Escorts for - or the wife's mint Mk1 XR2 with less than 30,000 miles we let go for £300. I've seen similar condition ones going for almost £20K recently..... The Mk1 XR2's were nice little cars. Mine went as part of a divorce settlement. I got the dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinZaPint Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Looking for something else I found this taken in Emsworth Hants in 2014 a 1950 Bristol 400 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Looking for something else I found this taken in Emsworth Hants in 2014 IMGP2741.JPG a 1950 Bristol 400 Interesting. Someone down the road from me near Hendon Park has a Bristol 401 in his garage, which he occasionally wheels out for show. I've always found Bristols to be very much an acquired taste in terms of looks; their designers didn't believe in following the crowd, that's for sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 ....Bristols ... an acquired taste in terms of looks; their designers didn't believe in following the crowd, that's for sure. Weren't those early ones simply BMWs taken over by the Bristol Aeroplane Company as war reparations? The most exciting in terms of looks were a team of twin finned sports/racing coupes entered for Le Mans. Except for Cooper-Bristols, Porsche and Lotus eventually saw them off in 1950s racing. I remember my dad pointing out a 401 as it overtook our Hillman Minx, commenting that it cost 3 times the price of our house. dh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Weren't those early ones simply BMWs taken over by the Bristol Aeroplane Company as war reparations? Not sure of the exact history but Fraser-Nash, BMW and Bristol all seemed to have links with each other at some point or other, which might be the reason for the very elongated kidney grilles on the 400/401. I only got to know about Bristol because of that mysterious showroom in Olympia where the doors always seemed to be locked. I was told that this was a quirk of the late Tony Crook, who ran Bristol and would sit in the back office. If you rang the bell, or knocked on the showroom door, he would allegedly take a long hard look at you (from the safety of his office) as a prospective customer. If he didn't like the look of you, you weren't coming into the showroom, no matter how rich you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) The Bristol Aircraft Co. also did all of the aluminium castings for the Vincent HRD motorcycle company as well. Back on track, here's photos taken at the 1998 Morris Minor Owners Club rally at Blenheim Palace. Edited September 6, 2017 by Judge Dread 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 The Bristol Aircraft Co. also did all of the aluminium castings for the Vincent HRD motorcycle company as well. Back on track, here's photos taken at the 1998 Morris Minor Owners Club rally at Blenheim Palace. Project2.jpg Project3.jpg Project1.jpg Strange how the Austin-Morris and BMW relationship was so intertwined, from Austin 7 to Rover 75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Strange how the Austin-Morris and BMW relationship was so intertwined, from Austin 7 to Rover 75. Strange to relate but Halfords listings of spares for Minors (windscreen wipers etc) where listed under Rover Minor. When BMW came to power they tried to stop stop dealers in Minor spares using the name Morris Minor because they said the name was theirs along with everything else they had bought from the ghost of B.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2017 There is an item on ARonline about the unbuilt rover 35 which actually got BMWised and became the 1 series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 There is an item on ARonline about the unbuilt rover 35 which actually got BMWised and became the 1 series Hard to see a great deal of substance in what's said there. The 1 Series owed more to a shortened 3 Series platform than anything which could have been derived from a front drive structure, particularly one which derived so much from the BMW parts bin. The only commonality I can see personally, having run examples of both Rover 75 and BMW 120, was the dreadful reliability of both models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2017 I think what it means is the styling of the main body is rover derived The 75 floorpan is a derivative of a BMW one which I believe helped rover when it was converted to RWD for the MG ZT 260 and its rover equivalent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 (edited) There is an item on ARonline about the unbuilt rover 35 which actually got BMWised and became the 1 series I thought the 1-Series looked more like an expensive Nissan Almera. Edited September 7, 2017 by Horsetan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Strange how the Austin-Morris and BMW relationship was so intertwined, from Austin 7 to Rover 75. Was not some of the first new "Mini" version also based on AR design and components? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 Was not some of the first new "Mini" version also based on AR design and components? The prototype was but BMW engineers had it re-engineered so it wouldn't accept the K series engine and other rover components were reduced. To me this was the beginning of the end for rover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Who on earth are the people who think up these strange names for cars? Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2017 Who on earth are the people who think up these strange names for cars? Brian. Edsel, Gremlin, and so on - as well as all the ones that are rude slang in other languages....they need to get real! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The prototype was but BMW engineers had it re-engineered so it wouldn't accept the K series engine and other rover components were reduced. To me this was the beginning of the end for rover it was supposed to get the newly designed but un finnished replacement for the k series a version of which now resides in the fiat500 namley the "twinair " the development of which was being shared between Fiat & ARG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 it was supposed to get the newly designed but un finnished replacement for the k series a version of which now resides in the fiat500 namley the "twinair " the development of which was being shared between Fiat & ARG Was this actually to replace the k series, not long before Rover's demise they were developing a camless k series with solenoids operating the valves and it was supposedly a success but not sure where that technology went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Was this actually to replace the k series, not long before Rover's demise they were developing a camless k series with solenoids operating the valves and it was supposedly a success but not sure where that technology went did here of them developing a rotary valve head but suffered from similar problems to mazda with seals so was abandoned . was the camless head similar to the pnumatic valves renault used in formula 1 for a while a similar blind alley ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Was this actually to replace the k series, not long before Rover's demise they were developing a camless k series with solenoids operating the valves and it was supposedly a success but not sure where that technology went Perhaps the technology became the Koenigsegg Freevalve camless engine. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiGpIbwgpTWAhWSblAKHSGNB80QtwIIJjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DOZWeNPi2XkE&usg=AFQjCNH1Q9zSIEax9X9-Pyfs57JLBdyR-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2017 That's possible, remember the V64V engine from the metro 6r4 went on to power the Jaguar xj220 which for a brief period was the world's fastest car. BL and its later incarnations could be a a force to be reckoned by when it put its mind to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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