David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Morning Brian,......... If you have to hand.........."Ashford to Dover". by Vic.Mitchell & Keith Smith. Middleton Press. Near the end of the book,is "Dover Town Station" its plan of 1862,shews,the original sheds, North of the yard, in fact on the start of what was to become the 10 chain curve. So am assuming,once the curve was in place, "Town",was redeveloped,the sheds re-built,to the seaward side,(of the yard),whilst developing,DMS. Once,"Town & Harbour stations, ceased to become passenger stops,"Dover Priory", was rebuilt in 1932,and became Dover's main station, except for DMS/Western docks,that remained functional till 1995. For "Boat Train/Ferries"..not to be confused with,"Night Ferry nor Boat train". There is a big,difference, some people get confused,or even miss the point of the term used. BFn.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Ow do dt, Am I right in thinking your uncertainty about date refers to something more exact than "Circa 1937 - 1954" A part plan, bought and able to display.(Bottom of this Post). I am very unsure of it's date. J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Morning Brian,......... If you have to hand.........."Ashford to Dover". by Vic.Mitchell & Keith Smith. Middleton Press. Near the end of the book,is "Dover Town Station" its plan of 1862,shews,the original sheds, North of the yard, in fact on the start of what was to become the 10 chain curve. So am assuming,once the curve was in place, "Town",was redeveloped,the sheds re-built,to the seaward side,(of the yard),whilst developing,DMS. Once,"Town & Harbour stations, ceased to become passenger stops,"Dover Priory", was rebuilt in 1932,and became Dover's main station, except for DMS/Western docks,that remained functional till 1995. For "Boat Train/Ferries"..not to be confused with,"Night Ferry nor Boat train". There is a big,difference, some people get confused,or even miss the point of the term used. BFn.......... I'm still confused as to where the sheds were. Between those long sidings and the beach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 If you have the book, look @ plate 107.and it's attached description. The sheds were "modernized"/rebuilt in 1928, which had 5 roads,one only connected to the marshalling yard. Built on re- claimed land,of the foreshore. Will have to look for another plan.........sorry......... , In WWII, a look-out man was deployed,to sight flashes from the French coast,from the German shore batteries. When a flash was spotted, it took,53.seconds for the armoured shell to find it's target in Dover,an approx.distance of 23.miles, and I think 1,000.pounds in weight. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Am I right in thinking your uncertainty about date refers to something more exact than "Circa 1937 - 1954" Maybe, up to 1980 ? J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Maybe, up to 1980 ? J. Is the note on the map applied by you? It is difficult to see whether it is part of the map copy or applied later. J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yes J, one of my.....written guesses....................... Apprentices.........Track laying near Canterbury................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 triang small radius curves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Apprentices.........Track laying near Canterbury................. Is that the new Line to Thorpe Park? Back OT......... given that maps often get made to show changes [as well as OS routine upgrades] is there any clue from the buildings and roads shown on there? J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2013 I'm still confused as to where the sheds were. Between those long sidings and the beach? Hawkins and Reeve ( Southern Sheds, OPC 1979) show the shed to have been near Archcliffe Junction, on the south west side of the triangle, to the seaward side of the running lines. It appears to have had one through road, the rest being dead ends facing towards France. It was, they point out, virtually closed during WW2, for the reasons discussed above. Closed 1961, demolished soon after, and sidings laid there instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2013 Apprentices.........Track laying near Canterbury................. Canterbury where - New Zealand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Oldddudders Posted Today, 11:39 ferriesdover, on 15 Aug 2013 - 09:45, said: Apprentices.........Track laying near Canterbury................. Canterbury where - New Zealand? We have a Winner..........!!! Forgot to say.........after an earth tremor............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty.sr Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 really enjoyed the film snippets especially the 2 33s working in tandum bringing stock of the ferry. whatched it when fishing of the admiralty, was a busy little yard at one time, also remember the iron duke arriving down at marine station, wonderful times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 "Tided up,Alongside",........for the night. Well, the quiz is over and we had a winner.....Michael........was it...?....... . Hmmm.........I turn my attention to to the first, tentative mock up of the Folkestone Road over bridge.......with just the basic components,stuck by a pratt stick. A few pics,from the Naff.Picture Company........... P1060449(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060448(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060447(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060446(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060444(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060443(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Sorry, got a bit carried away, with my sound, Rail Exclusive..........Class 47. P1060440(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060439(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060438(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060437(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060436(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060434(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060431(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060429(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060428(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060427(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Reminder... P1040923(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr Enough, ?.............. ............BFn.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Why not a video with sound??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hmm..........How about,..........Brian Connolly ?.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 Here is a link to my You Tube video page, all 45, Taken by my ;........ NAFF Video & Picture Company, believe me,you will not want to watch them all..........if any........ . http://www.youtube.com/user/ferriesdover/videos 2nd basic, mockery made of Folkestone Road over bridge,made this evening............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Apprentices.........Track laying near Canterbury................. Didn't know there was any single track near Canterbury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 But, near Dover...many years ago..........http://www.semgonline.com/RlyMag/DoverMartinMillRly.pdf interesting.....facts..................http://sussexhistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1018.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Dover Rail Guns.................http://www.bluebell-railway-museum.co.uk/archive/newsletter/027/Railway+Guns+in+Kent.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Did your avatar sink, d.t. - or is that just a thick fog in the channel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 The, 2nd bridge mockery, an "all in one". Sorry about the naff. pics. handheld,not on my tripod..... P1060459(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060458(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060456(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060455(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060454(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060453(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr P1060457(1) by David Todd 2012, on Flickr "ALL STOP".......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Am trying to retrieve it......but it does not want to play............probably me.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 dt post 89 /90 /91 I meant can we have a video of the sounds off your nice rail exclusive SOUND class 47 (you said it had sound so surely it isn't ONLY a puppet / reference Brian Connolly of 'It's only a puppet' fame) N.B. For anyone confused as to the use of this reference on our (Ferriesdover and Arboretum Valley) previous forum, playing the rule it is my trainset and I'll do what I want...Kal and I often quoted....'It's only a puppet!!!!!' (only in reference to our own layout you understand) dt/jukebox post 96 Am also curious as to what you plan reference your avatar, noisy??? Moi!!! Similarly waiting on your signature...... dt post 97 It's a bit rough at the moment, but we can see where your going, and know the standard you are capable of, and thus can't wait for developments. Good ground work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Turn the volume down please, this sound is not the MLV, but me testing the new Class 47............ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MTl7bD__z5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q610Ex7KObs http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ap-dgTXlpJk&t=10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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