RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2013 Here are the photos I took of various wagons in the Irvine / Cajon area whilst in the US during early July 2013. They are presented rough and ready I'm afraid, my knowledge of US railroads is poor and rather than embarrass myself trying to be clever I will simply post the photos - there will be a lot ... (There may be some duplication of the wagons, but it's quicker to simply post what I took, so please accept them for what they are) Colton Yard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Wagons Beast ?? - They are "Freight Cars", This is a wagon !!!. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Nice collection. The blue well car is a Gunderson Maxi IV three-unit car in Pacer Stacktrain livery. Plus there are reefers (the white ones), Golden West cars in regular and extra height, covered hoppers with sepeate hatches, one with trough hatches, and a helpfully labelled coil car. A good mix, and from an interesting vantage point. Interestingly. the covered hopper to the right of the Maxi IV has its trough hatches open. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted August 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2013 Some very good modelling shots there. I think that I will give the wagon a miss though as the flanges are a bit to fine for HO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Nice pics and very useful reference for weathering cars. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 11, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2013 One more before the whole train shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I'm sure someone can ID the middle car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2013 I'm sure someone can ID the middle car These may help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 http://www.railcarphotos.com/Search.php?SearchCarNumber=921116&Search=Search Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 That's some great pictures you have there. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 BNSF 921116 is id'd as a "Bulkhead Flat" - Specialty bulkhead flat car. with fixed or permanently attached moveable bulkheads or ends a minimum of three feet high and a flat floor for general commodities. A maximum gross weight of 263k lbs. Best, Pete. PS I looked it up! Edited to take out length see Dave's post below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 BNSF 921116 is 44 ft 2 in long with 30ft 7 in truck centers, 263k capy. Its designed for hauling anodes which are big slabs of metal so it doesn't have to be very long. The ATSF gon is 53 ft IL and the BN gon is 52-6 IL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 12, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2013 Here's the first selection from my "photograph a whole train" I was walking across the road by the crossing to get a better shot, hence a couple are clipped off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I always think 45' containers on top of 40' ones look wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I always think 45' containers on top of 40' ones look wrong! Then just wait until you see a 53 on top of a 40... DTTX 63166 is a nice example of an old Gunderson TwinStack bulkhead well car. Interestingly, only well D seems to be labelled 'Do Not Load 20ft Containers', even though they are not allowed in C, D, or E (the three centre wells) per the AAR loading guide https://www.aarpublications.com/~/media/AARPublications/FreePubs/AAR%20Loading%20Capabilities%20Guide%20010313.ashx (a very useful free download). Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Yep, it's a very useful guide that - especially for earlier-built cars like that Twinstack, where seemingly every small batch built was specced slightly differently and those capabilities carry forward to today - one of the CSXT marked (former Sea-Land) cars in my HO fleet is still apparently capable of stacking long-defunct Sea-Land 35's (as well as 20s in any lower position!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2013 Next ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Never seen a "###### Fang" container before! Nice snaps, Dave! Edit: I knew it wouldn't allow that but it is in one of the photos.. Note typically coloured BNSF ballast ib the South West. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted August 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2013 Never seen a "###### Fang" container before! Nice snaps, Dave! Edit: I knew it wouldn't allow that but it is in one of the photos.. Note typically coloured BNSF ballast ib the South West. Best, Pete. I was thinking the same thing! Great set of shot's Beast. I must really must get out there myself one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 16, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2013 Another batch All of my photos (that I post) are low resolution, shrunk versions of the originals - if anyone wants any then drop me a PM with the photo number (point at it and it will show DASxxxxxxx,jpg) and I'll happily send you a copy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Some nice interesting cars in that batch Dave DTTX745895 is Thrall-built, it would once have been a 48' standalone (or possibly part of a drawbarred set) but has been 'chopped' to become a standalone 40' well. DTTX748820 I suspect was built as the 5 unit articulated 48' version of that Thrall car, similarly it's had the wells shortened to 40' (my presumption is based on that whilst they did have some Thralls built as 40's, there weren't that many, and the repaint to the latest version of TTX paint (the red logo) suggests a recent rebuild...) BRAN5291 earlier on shows the as-built 48' configuration of the Thrall design (I think this would have originally had APLX reporting marks) BNSF270697 was built by Gunderson as a Maxi-III - 5x 48' wells - it's also been cut down to 40' wells (you can see the vertical weld lines near the ends of each well) - these are really easy to spot - it's ends up not too dissimilar to the Maxi-I, but unlike the Maxi-I it retains it's wider body (angled side) demanded by wider domestic boxes, but with a 40' well that now doesn't need that extra width CP524384 is a 3 platform drawbarred set with 53' wells built by NSC DTTX751030, DTTX751164, BNSF238474, BNSF238520 and BNSF238603 are all Gunderson Maxi-I - 5 platform sets of 40' wells - that's a design that dates from the late 80s - it was overtaken and fell out of favour in the rush to accomodate 48' boxes, but in the 00s the design came back into production, so those I suspect will all be fairly new cars - the slab sides are a good spotting feature of these versus the 'widebody' chopped Maxi-IIIs Adrian's already ID DTTX63166 as a Gunderson Twinstack, i've just spotted a lovely little detail on that - one of the reporting marks done in spray paint. The bulkheads were an early feature of doublestack cars, and originally used to support the upper container. Shortening/Lengthening wells has become quite commonplace over the last decade or so - the industry ended up with lots of 48' wells, designed around the industry standard domestic 48' container from the late 80s - but they are virtually extinct now. The US business is split between 'deep sea' traffic which wants 40' well, and domestic, which uses 53s - the 48's are too short for domestic traffic, but wasted valuable train length and tare on deep sea...that focussing on two lengths (and the huge growth of deep-sea) is also the reason that designs like the Maxi-I got dusted off for a comeback... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted August 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2013 Adrian's already ID DTTX63166 as a Gunderson Twinstack, i've just spotted a lovely little detail on that - one of the reporting marks done in spray paint. The bulkheads were an early feature of doublestack cars, and originally used to support the upper container. Ayre, I spotted that too Martyn! A few months ago, I managed to pick up one of the A-Line 5 car set's of those in red and in brand new boxed condition. I was very pleased to find them as they seem to be as rare as hens teeth now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 16, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2013 If you guys want me to enlarge any details let me know - but give me the photo reference ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Dave, what are the reporting marks on the two new, plain, tan boxes in a couple of shots please? I'm wondering if they are the US equivalent of the 'one journey' 20's we see marked for several companies over here? Image references: DAS_US_00222 DAS_US_00258 Ta! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 16, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2013 Never seen a "###### Fang" container before! Nice snaps, Dave! Edit: I knew it wouldn't allow that but it is in one of the photos.. Note typically coloured BNSF ballast ib the South West. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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