Ozexpatriate Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 But they claimed to be landing at Heathrow, then showed an airport with single story white painted buildings, with mountains in the background. You know what's remarkable? Is how much England looks in no way like Southern California. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 'Hart To Hart', someone actually admitted to watching it ? - Hang on !! Natalie Wood wasn't it ?? We can excuse that then !! No, not Natalie, but her husband, with Stefanie Powers (who was nice, but not as pretty as Nat...). And I just thought he was being cheeky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Another Murdoch watcher here. They do close frame their exterior shots a lot and several of the 'cityscape' shots are clearly models. The railway bits are always fun though. steve I think pretty much all the cityscape shots are either models or painted "flats" TBH. As for the rail scenes, to be fair, apart from the daft premise about the status of the station that's usually used, the locos and stock don't appear to be as ridiculously out of period as some in British dramas. Mind you, i'm no expert on identifying North American rail equipment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2018 I know there's the "It's just a movie" argument, but when I see, for example, Mk1s or Routemasters in a movie set in the war, my immediate thought is "So what else have they got wrong" - and assume that there's someone else sitting on another sofa who is a military enthusiast thinking "They've got the uniforms/tanks/kit/etc wrong"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I know there's the "It's just a movie" argument, but when I see, for example, Mk1s or Routemasters in a movie set in the war, my immediate thought is "So what else have they got wrong" - and assume that there's someone else sitting on another sofa who is a military enthusiast thinking "They've got the uniforms/tanks/kit/etc wrong"... I read somewhere (newspaper review?) that in the recent 'Dunkirk' film, either the soldiers had their bootlaces laced incorrectly (crossed, not straight) or it was noticed during filming that they were wrong (I forget which). I saw the film but forgot to notice. If it was the case that they were wrong you'd think those who researched the uniforms (presumably from film footage and still photos) would have got it right. Another issue can be much-too-modern haircuts. Back then in the military, and also out of it, men used to have very severe short-back-and-sides cuts - yet even Hitler is often depicted in need of a visit from his hairdresser! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purley Oaks Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 School For Scoundrels, a B&W movie from the late 50s starring Ian Carmichael, was on the tv a week or so ago. Based on Stephen Potter's Lifemanship books, it starts with Carmichael disembarking a train at Yeovil. Thought I might see some interesting Southern scenes but no - Eastern region tanks and Gresley coaches - which were just as interesting, just not what I was expecting for Yeovil! Turns out it was filmed at Hertford... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 School For Scoundrels, a B&W movie from the late 50s starring Ian Carmichael, was on the tv a week or so ago. Based on Stephen Potter's Lifemanship books, it starts with Carmichael disembarking a train at Yeovil. Thought I might see some interesting Southern scenes but no - Eastern region tanks and Gresley coaches - which were just as interesting, just not what I was expecting for Yeovil! Turns out it was filmed at Hertford... I'm sure, even at the time, there were many filmgoers who realised it wasn't any of the Yeovil stations, and others who recognised it was actually Hertford! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) I read somewhere (newspaper review?) that in the recent 'Dunkirk' film, either the soldiers had their bootlaces laced incorrectly (crossed, not straight) or it was noticed during filming that they were wrong (I forget which). I saw the film but forgot to notice. If it was the case that they were wrong you'd think those who researched the uniforms (presumably from film footage and still photos) would have got it right. Another issue can be much-too-modern haircuts. Back then in the military, and also out of it, men used to have very severe short-back-and-sides cuts - yet even Hitler is often depicted in need of a visit from his hairdresser! if you are going to film something of this magnitude I think they ought to hire an Infantry RSM. Do a full parade inspection and march the actors around a lot. or better still put them all therough square bashing... Edited January 11, 2018 by TheQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium BR60103 Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2018 School For Scoundrels, a B&W movie from the late 50s starring Ian Carmichael, was on the tv a week or so ago. Based on Stephen Potter's Lifemanship books, it starts with Carmichael disembarking a train at Yeovil. Thought I might see some interesting Southern scenes but no - Eastern region tanks and Gresley coaches - which were just as interesting, just not what I was expecting for Yeovil! Turns out it was filmed at Hertford... If they were making up a location (a fictitious school), why not situate it near where the filming will be? Or were there other location considerations? I haven't seen the film since it was new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppercap Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 If they were making up a location (a fictitious school), why not situate it near where the filming will be? Or were there other location considerations? I haven't seen the film since it was new. The school's location in the story was Yeovil, the film was made at Elstree in Hertfordshire - presumably that's why they used Hertford station. It's a comedy anyway, so no real need to change the story to fit film locations. If it had been filmed at Pinewood they might well have used Windsor (which had been used in some Pinewood films). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 if you are going to film something of this magnitude I think they ought to hire an Infantry RSM. Do a full parade inspection and march the actors around a lot. or better still put them all therough square bashing... I've got vague memories of hearing that this actually happened once, resulting in wholesale desertion by the cast. Can't remember any details though. I also remember a persistent rumours that a film depiction of the Battle of Culloden used tripwires in the undergrowth, unknown to the actors, so that the charging "Jacobites" would scream and fall over realistically under English fire . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) I've got vague memories of hearing that this actually happened once, resulting in wholesale desertion by the cast. Can't remember any details though. I also remember a persistent rumours that a film depiction of the Battle of Culloden used tripwires in the undergrowth, unknown to the actors, so that the charging "Jacobites" would scream and fall over realistically under English fire . Which means it was inaccurate , because if you've been hit in the upper body by a lead ball travelling at excessive speed, in most cases you'd fall backwards... Oh and the BRITISH government Army was made up of 16 regiments of which 4 were Scots and 1 Irish, However there were men from all parts of the UK in the Nominally English regiments..and joined by some troops from what is now Germany. Verses A Jacobite Army 3/4 of which were Gaels, supported by the French and a few from all the other nations of the UK. Edited January 12, 2018 by TheQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Haven't seen any mention of 102 dalmations which I found my self watching a couple of weeks ago with the grandkids. Towards the end of the movie Cruella de'ville is escaping Britain on the Orient Express which leaves the station hauled by a very green 4472. five minutes later, in france of all places it's being hauled by class 5 'camelot' in BR liveried black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Which means it was inaccurate , because if you've been hit in the upper body by a lead ball travelling at excessive speed, in most cases you'd fall backwards... Oh and the BRITISH government Army was made up of 16 regiments of which 4 were Scots and 1 Irish, However there were men from all parts of the UK in the Nominally English regiments..and joined by some troops from what is now Germany. Verses A Jacobite Army 3/4 of which were Gaels, supported by the French and a few from all the other nations of the UK. Fair enough, although I intended the story more as a comment on the maltreatment of actors in the interests of getting a "good" shot rather than offering any opinion on the film, whatever it might have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 12, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2018 Fair enough, although I intended the story more as a comment on the maltreatment of actors in the interests of getting a "good" shot rather than offering any opinion on the film, whatever it might have been. I wasn't critising you, just trying to correct the impression shown by films and those not interested in history that it was Scots verses English.. As for actors... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Haven't seen any mention of 102 dalmations which I found my self watching a couple of weeks ago with the grandkids. Towards the end of the movie Cruella de'ville is escaping Britain on the Orient Express which leaves the station hauled by a very green 4472. five minutes later, in france of all places it's being hauled by class 5 'camelot' in BR liveried black. Not seen that film. It sounds like that competes with "The Snow Globe Christmas" for the worst Railway continuity award. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I know there's the "It's just a movie" argument, but when I see, for example, Mk1s or Routemasters in a movie set in the war, my immediate thought is "So what else have they got wrong" - and assume that there's someone else sitting on another sofa who is a military enthusiast thinking "They've got the uniforms/tanks/kit/etc wrong"... Whenever there's a programme on TV about 617 squadron, we can be sure to see what may be the only available piece of film showing a lancaster dropping one of Barnes Wallis's "earthquake" bombs. The narrator tells us that the bomber is launching one of the "tallboys" which sank the Tirpitz, and, in my mind's ear, I hear my dear departed wife say: "Yes, yes, I know, it's not a tallboy, it's a grand slam!" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) ... The narrator tells us that the bomber is launching one of the "tallboys" which sank the Tirpitz, ...Better than "Fat Man" or "Little Boy" or worse, "Thin Man". Edited January 13, 2018 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Post deleted see below Edited January 13, 2018 by grandadbob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) if you are going to film something of this magnitude I think they ought to hire an Infantry RSM. Do a full parade inspection and march the actors around a lot. or better still put them all therough square bashing... ISTR that an old Coldstream Guardsman workmate of mine "experienced" RSM Brittain who I believe featured in some films many years ago. Edit. Found this on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Brittain And this on YouTube Edited January 13, 2018 by grandadbob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) I see that and raise you this: https://youtu.be/qzKTOUkroU0 Edited January 13, 2018 by Bishop of Welchester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 Great film. I wouldn't mind betting that "Dicky" took his inspiration from Brittain. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) I was reflecting on all this a bit while watching one of the Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes films. The LBSCR carriages felt authentic for 1890 even if they weren't and of course I know the PS Waverley- standing in for a Cross Channel steamer- was built in 1946 but it felt right in the film. The street works for the UndergrounD (the word part of the logo without the circle) that appear in one scene used a brand name that first appeared in 1908 in a typeface, Johnston Sans, that didn't appear until 1919 and the only line new llne being built around that time was the Central London (now the Central Line) That was an obvious anachronism but it probably wasn't a mistake as that familiar name, as well as Holmes' rather unlikely posession of a horseless carriage, would have served the narrative by telling the audience that though we were still in the late Victorian age it was also the verge of the modern age with enormous changes starting to take place. Edited February 8, 2018 by Pacific231G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted January 14, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm betting RSM Britain met my grandfather, Britain joined up two years before my granddad, and retired two years before. My grandfather was also an RSM and at times was posted to the same base. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Which means it was inaccurate , because if you've been hit in the upper body by a lead ball travelling at excessive speed, in most cases you'd fall backwards... Oh and the BRITISH government Army was made up of 16 regiments of which 4 were Scots and 1 Irish, However there were men from all parts of the UK in the Nominally English regiments..and joined by some troops from what is now Germany. Verses A Jacobite Army 3/4 of which were Gaels, supported by the French and a few from all the other nations of the UK. But even if you divide that into three or four lines, they don't rhyme ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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