Inside a large covered goods depot 1960s

[Michael Delamar]

These are images taken from a British transport film called Lost stolen damaged from 1964. It shows inside a large covered goods depot, plenty of detail closeups.

Im not 100% sure what goods depot it is,it may be have been filmed in more than one, some shots appear to me to be Huskisson Liverpool, compare the second shot in this link..

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/h/huskisson/index1.shtml

 

to the first shot below..

the bridge abutments outside appear to be Sandhills lane, also the clock on the far distance and conveyor seem to match and there is footage in Liverpool city centre in the film, so it may be filmed here, that is if the shot on dissused stations is correct.

 

the 2 bufferstops in the distance seem to match the Huskisson trackplan.

 

could this be a clue?

 

 

but then there is exterior shots of Sighthill and mention of Temple meads aswel.

 

however I dont recognise the signalbox in the distance, doesnt match Huskisson I think.

 

some more close ups of vans and loading.

 

 

Misc shipping, Liverpool connection?

 

could the registration plates provide a clue?

 

 

I think this one might be Sighthill?

 

 

 

an excellent film, loads more road and railway shots, such as scammel scarabs etc, recommend to anyone who likes this era.

 

[clecklewyke]

Lovely shots.

 

The signal box looked L&Y to my eyes.

 

With the volume of packets they were dealing with they must thought that such traffic would never end. Little did they know! Within 10 years it must have largely been lost to road.

 

Ian

[JeffP]

Ordered chaos.

[Fat Controller]

Amazing to see how busy these places were, and they were just dealing with 'Sundries'- major centres would have had Parcels and Full Load Terminals as well. So sad that it's all disappeared, not just here, but over most of mainland Europe as well.

Some fascinating views, with excellent shots of van roofs, the aspect of a model van that we often see first, and yet which is hardly ever evident in photos. There's one which has an interesting selection of creases in it, looking as though the felt was fitted by a cowboy roofer. The second shot with this roof also has an ex-GWR 'Fruit-Mex' in it- the sheer variety of van types is quite amazing, the only ones I can't see are Palvans, Vanwides, and any sort of Meat van.

Where is/was Sighthill? It rings a bell, but I can't find it in any of my books of maps.

Thanks for posting, Michael.

[TheSignalEngineer]

Clues so far

 

• The Indian Spledour did the Calcutta - Liverpool run.
• One van has a poster with fares from Manchester Exchange on it.
• A lot of the road vehicles are LMR allocated.
• By the roof and side cladding and clock positions it is in at least 3 different sheds.

 

Besides the Fruit-Mex there's a BR Meat Van in general use as well.

[Michael Delamar]

Amazing to see how busy these places were, and they were just dealing with 'Sundries'- major centres would have had Parcels and Full Load Terminals as well. So sad that it's all disappeared, not just here, but over most of mainland Europe as well.

Some fascinating views, with excellent shots of van roofs, the aspect of a model van that we often see first, and yet which is hardly ever evident in photos. There's one which has an interesting selection of creases in it, looking as though the felt was fitted by a cowboy roofer. The second shot with this roof also has an ex-GWR 'Fruit-Mex' in it- the sheer variety of van types is quite amazing, the only ones I can't see are Palvans, Vanwides, and any sort of Meat van.

Where is/was Sighthill? It rings a bell, but I can't find it in any of my books of maps.

Thanks for posting, Michael.

 

I think those last shots of the van with the repaired roof are looking 180degrees from the very first shot posted, the conveyor is moving the same way and Huskisson was open at both ends, presumably the vans were shunted through in one direction?

 

Sightill is Glasgow, so the overhead wires in the last shot should match for the blue trains?

[Fat Controller]

My eyesight must be going, as I can't see the Meat van..

It looks as though everything was double handled, at least; wagon- flat trailer- van trailer and vice-versa.

Definitely at least two depots; one has overhead crane tracks; these are not evident in other views, which have a much lighter supporting structure. One also has at least some dead-end roads, whereas Huskisson looks, from the plan, to have only through roads.

Edited December 12, 2013 by Fat Controller

[Michael Delamar]

someone has already done some screengrabs of the exterior shots of Sighthill..

 

http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/archive/sighthill-springburn__o_t__t_1204.html

[Michael Delamar]

just been looking again, could the van here provide a clue? Oldham Clegg Street?

 

Edited December 12, 2013 by Michael Delamar

[Fat Controller]

I don't know about the van, but those kecks are like the ones my grandad wore, reaching half-way up his shirt. Any lower was known as a 'bum-freezer'. The shed in that photo  looks to be made of a much more recent style of cladding, with flatter, more angular, corrugations.

[TheSignalEngineer]

My eyesight must be going, as I can't see the Meat van..

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Only spotted it by the number B8700xx series.

[Michael Delamar]

the whole film is shot across the country,some shots at Waterloo station, the film deals with damages made by poor handling, theft and how to prevent it.

[lyndonsdad1]

Re trousers, these days you need longer braces!!

[alant]

Some great photos here, thanks for posting.

[Barry O]

notice the tin of formaldehyde in one of the shots - no problems with exotic substances in those days...

 

good stuff this Mike.

Keep up the good work

 

Barry O 

[TheSignalEngineer]

Doubt if the last shot in the OP is Sighthill as it looks to be wired for serving by loco hauled electrics.

Edited December 12, 2013 by TheSignalEngineer

[Fat Controller]

Doubt if the last shot in the OP is Sighthill as it loos to be wired for serving by loco hauled electrics.

Not too many depots were, at least at the time in question. Was there a facility around Camden/ Kentish Town? If not, perhaps Edge Hill, or somewhere around Manchester?

[Michael Delamar]

These first 2 are the same place, the camera pans round, bridge in the background certainly looks like Sandhills lane Huskisson.

 

 

 

 

[Michael Delamar]

some more,  that Signal box again..

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Michael Delamar]

think the last one may be Oldham Clegg Street? the shed roof looks different to the Huskisson one, also the Huskisson os map is slightly misleading as its from 1902 and the site was levelled in ww2 and rebuilt, havent got a os map from the 1950s.

[Michael Delamar]

notice the tin of formaldehyde in one of the shots - no problems with exotic substances in those days...

 

good stuff this Mike.

Keep up the good work

 

Barry O 

that shot was set up to show how not to load things, dont put fertilzer next to food and also load heavy cases below not on top of light boxes and use cusioned pads..

 

Edited December 12, 2013 by Michael Delamar

[Merfyn Jones]

The forklift in a couple of shots is a Glasgow one of 1961, which BR had a number of in that series (xxxCGB) so must be Sighthill.

Thanks Michael for these screengrabs.

Merf.

[Michael Delamar]

some more exterior shots..

 

from the cab of a scamell scarab, arriving at Park royal goods yard, not sure where this is.

 

 

another yard/yards dont recognise, guessing Glasgow, edit just noticed Glagow on the road trailer.

 

Edited December 12, 2013 by Michael Delamar

[Richard E]

The AR plates were issued by Hertfordshire and GB was issued by Glasgow. I suspect the Scammell Scarab fleet were registered by the manufacturers who were based in Watford hence the Hertfordshire registrations.

[Merfyn Jones]

The AR plates were issued by Hertfordshire and GB was issued by Glasgow. I suspect the Scammell Scarab fleet were registered by the manufacturers who were based in Watford hence the Hertfordshire registrations.

Each region registered their own vehicles. It is just coincidence that the Midland Region registered all their vehicles in Hertfordshire as their road vehicle H Q was at Watford. Note the Scottish Scarabs are Glasgow registered.

Merf.