37114 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 The diary for 2015 is now full as I can only fit in 3 (ish) shows per annum, the full list is: 11th and 12th April - Cheltenham 16th April - The gas Cupboard railway Thursday - Trowbridge 25th July - Barnstaple 3rd October - Chippenham 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 I had a look through the photos of various flickr members that I follow for suitable photos of the sorting office conveyor, as mentioned earlier it is hard to find either photos of the right angle as most photos obviously focus on the train. I found this little gem on Robert Tarling's (Bristol RE's) photostream which with a bit of playing around in paint is passable. https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristol-re/7342301102/ Interested in thoughts feedback, worth saying that as the layout is stored on its end I couldn't put the static parcels train in place? The angle of the conveyor is not quite right and there is a slight colour mismatch but I can repaint the conveyor to match the photo in the fullness of time: 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I had a look through the photos of various flickr members that I follow for suitable photos of the sorting office conveyor, as mentioned earlier it is hard to find either photos of the right angle as most photos obviously focus on the train. I found this little gem on Robert Tarling's (Bristol RE's) photostream which with a bit of playing around in paint is passable. Interested in thoughts feedback, worth saying that as the layout is stored on its end I couldn't put the static parcels train in place? The angle of the conveyor is not quite right and there is a slight colour mismatch but I can repaint the conveyor to match the photo in the fullness of time: It is going to be tricky to get exactly right, but that does look better cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 It is going to be tricky to get exactly right, but that does look better cheers I think you have hit the nail on the head there Kevin, one of the things I was concerned about when planning this layout was the scenic breaks for the high level, exacerbated by the fact the upper level is supposed to be part of a large station so needs to portray a sense of scale, difficult with such a small area to work with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 That looks alot better I think. I may get to see the layout as all the appearances are local to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) This is really looking good now. I liked Pallett lane but this is significantly better. The high level section really adds an extra dimension and the photo back scene is one of if not the best I've seen. I'm sorely tempted to rip off your design and build a cloned one for myself! But get a move on with those 25's! Edited March 30, 2015 by The Ghost of IKB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 This is really looking good now. I liked Pallett lane but this is significantly better. The high level section really adds an extra dimension and the photo back scene is one of if not the best I've seen. I'm sorely tempted to rip off your design and build a cloned one for myself! But get a move on with those 25's! Go for it, the layout is good fun to operate and I haven't even got the top level working yet. I will crack on with the 25's now the top level is presentable, one is more advanced than the other so will see what I can do this week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Realy like the station platform add on Rob... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 25s ? At Bristol ? Whatever next... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 25s ? At Bristol ? Whatever next... 25s at Bristol.pdf I have no idea... Geoff Endacott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 25s ? At Bristol ? Whatever next... Ha ha, I have got pictures of both the intended locos at Bristol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ok, can't argue with the evidence ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ok, can't argue with the evidence ! To be fair Rob, I am stretching the point the timescales a little as the photos of my 2 prototypes is a little after 1977: 25185 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristol-re/8642611890/in/photolist-eaHDpQ-7WtXSc 25191 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/roddymacphee/15892526620/in/photolist-qdnmtE-dHLb8X-nYVSLJ-dNUGD3-dCkSdS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I didn't think of the flask trains. Are you having any bath road 56s or where they later too ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 I didn't think of the flask trains. Are you having any bath road 56s or where they later too ? I think the 56's were later although they were new in 1977, I don't think they ventured down that far south west until the eatly 80's. Referencing an earlier post, while I am not a massive fan of class 33's, I am even less of a fan of class 56's so they are way down the to do list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 I suppose with all this talk of class 25's I suppose I should show some photos of the work so far: The project hasn't been completely straightforward as the glazing has proved difficult to make. I experimented with acetate sheet but struggled to get anything remotely passable and with 56 pane's to do, another solution is required. What that solution is I haven't decided yet so in the interim the Bachmann glazing has been modified to fit. Not perfect but not as difficult as you would think. I need to touch up the paintwork seams and I am still to sort how the buffer beams will secure to the cab but it feels like the end maybe in sight, and there is an outside chance 25191 maybe ready for Cheltenham. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 That's interesting. Cab curve looks good, but the lower cab weld line is too pronounced I think. Here's a comparison shot at a similar angle ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/nicholasy/5535152044/in/photolist-9r86RW-dhPh45-eskkxq-dZyCsH-aUBDQv-p28n5b-95hGT6-7KcpMK-88RcBm-p64Y6K-fESTwq-5Bw3KN-eNdkYr-d6TYTh-mEu9LD-dY9kKf-ohnntf-bsFrxa-bnY5x2-9MdH5c-gnEBLT-cHyKNb-cZNPXs-qWRqtY-9hhTRC-9Z6HDe-fZAYGb-ao51ib-9Qv7oi-a7Rvbk-9gLwLf-fAitCZ-o7ziRu-baQBPD-ki4X4w-a9Zutz-9gKW1E-fsGiA8-88bcjw-nFjQ5e-oU4cv5-6158j5-d6kuTA-dxzknS-7xir43-atVq91-cu5fJ5-btRZx1-9fs6DU-bnY6Ei Some more pictures please Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 That's interesting. Cab curve looks good, but the lower cab weld line is too pronounced I think. Here's a comparison shot at a similar angle ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/nicholasy/5535152044/in/photolist-9r86RW-dhPh45-eskkxq-dZyCsH-aUBDQv-p28n5b-95hGT6-7KcpMK-88RcBm-p64Y6K-fESTwq-5Bw3KN-eNdkYr-d6TYTh-mEu9LD-dY9kKf-ohnntf-bsFrxa-bnY5x2-9MdH5c-gnEBLT-cHyKNb-cZNPXs-qWRqtY-9hhTRC-9Z6HDe-fZAYGb-ao51ib-9Qv7oi-a7Rvbk-9gLwLf-fAitCZ-o7ziRu-baQBPD-ki4X4w-a9Zutz-9gKW1E-fsGiA8-88bcjw-nFjQ5e-oU4cv5-6158j5-d6kuTA-dxzknS-7xir43-atVq91-cu5fJ5-btRZx1-9fs6DU-bnY6Ei Some more pictures please Rob I agree on the weld line, alas it only became so noticeable once sprayed. I will discuss with Simon to see how they can be adjusted in the future, it maybe easier to leave the seam off and then enable the end user to scribe it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Looks pretty good piece of personalisation, I'll have to see if I can make Chippenham. I guess if you don't like 33s, you can omit them as all the local freight / Portsmouth runs was 31/0 , 31/4 at that time ? Looking at Kevin's thread I think there was a fair few peak diagrams around, this is borne out by the shots of them at bath road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Looks pretty good piece of personalisation, I'll have to see if I can make Chippenham. I guess if you don't like 33s, you can omit them as all the local freight / Portsmouth runs was 31/0 , 31/4 at that time ? Looking at Kevin's thread I think there was a fair few peak diagrams around, this is borne out by the shots of them at bath road I would need to check on the Portsmouth's Rob, I have a feeling 1977 was when the class 205's were in use on the Portsmouth trains, but they were all 3 car's rather than Kernow's 2 car version. Thats said I don't have space for a 3 car unit so probably could get away with a respray of a 2 car version. I do need some more 31's although my model of 31210 was a fair bit of work, I probably have a backlog of 2 years worth of work on various stock projects in the pipeline so will be a while. I have a split box peak already done, I would like to add a centre split version to the roster as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 That's interesting. Cab curve looks good, but the lower cab weld line is too pronounced I think. Here's a comparison shot at a similar angle ; https://www.flickr.com/photos/nicholasy/5535152044/in/photolist-9r86RW-dhPh45-eskkxq-dZyCsH-aUBDQv-p28n5b-95hGT6-7KcpMK-88RcBm-p64Y6K-fESTwq-5Bw3KN-eNdkYr-d6TYTh-mEu9LD-dY9kKf-ohnntf-bsFrxa-bnY5x2-9MdH5c-gnEBLT-cHyKNb-cZNPXs-qWRqtY-9hhTRC-9Z6HDe-fZAYGb-ao51ib-9Qv7oi-a7Rvbk-9gLwLf-fAitCZ-o7ziRu-baQBPD-ki4X4w-a9Zutz-9gKW1E-fsGiA8-88bcjw-nFjQ5e-oU4cv5-6158j5-d6kuTA-dxzknS-7xir43-atVq91-cu5fJ5-btRZx1-9fs6DU-bnY6Ei Some more pictures please Rob There's no welding there. Main front panel is rivited to frame at bottem and small skirting is screwed on. Crap design and always letting weather in, thats way you get a rusty line round the cab and the cab floors go rotten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I would need to check on the Portsmouth's Rob, I have a feeling 1977 was when the class 205's were in use on the Portsmouth trains, but they were all 3 car's rather than Kernow's 2 car version. Thats said I don't have space for a 3 car unit so probably could get away with a respray of a 2 car version. I do need some more 31's although my model of 31210 was a fair bit of work, I probably have a backlog of 2 years worth of work on various stock projects in the pipeline so will be a while. I have a split box peak already done, I would like to add a centre split version to the roster as well. Class 31/4s took over the Portsmouth - Cardiff services from the May 1977 timetable, for which Bath Road received eight of them in 1977. Class 31/1s had already been working the some of the Weymouth services for a few years by then, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Class 31/4s took over the Portsmouth - Cardiff services from the May 1977 timetable, for which Bath Road received eight of them in 1977. Class 31/1s had already been working the some of the Weymouth services for a few years by then, cheers Thanks Kevin, I presume this photo was taken on the last day of Thumper operation if the 31/4's took over from May: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77243361@N07/15541413919/in/photolist-pFkNUp-dvkiDP-fMvJES-fgiqvR-aUntoz-iZxoKz-87tqZH-nr7MZ3-giho2q-gihq7Y-iZycmQ-fis3Ri-jfWSdH-aysKGE-n7ibrP-a6AHtj-9J3Lwr-oSMXgu-9f3UMD-bUEEFN-8Y8BQ8-7VY7rD-8kdJuP-neM5t7-ecJTRt-a8r6yS-ft8NTF-ebyeX7-8ZJtDJ-eLYYXr-oZGzFL-95b6oz-aftShf-by5BJ1-9f3YVF-fGzoYy-cWqCVC-cU5nhq-duBDgb-afUtMP-mHT3vi-8yxh4U-am4xFm-89uXcN-89rZ3g Also did Bath road take over the work from another depot as I don't recall Thumpers being based at Bristol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Kevin, I presume this photo was taken on the last day of Thumper operation if the 31/4's took over from May: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77243361@N07/15541413919/in/photolist-pFkNUp-dvkiDP-fMvJES-fgiqvR-aUntoz-iZxoKz-87tqZH-nr7MZ3-giho2q-gihq7Y-iZycmQ-fis3Ri-jfWSdH-aysKGE-n7ibrP-a6AHtj-9J3Lwr-oSMXgu-9f3UMD-bUEEFN-8Y8BQ8-7VY7rD-8kdJuP-neM5t7-ecJTRt-a8r6yS-ft8NTF-ebyeX7-8ZJtDJ-eLYYXr-oZGzFL-95b6oz-aftShf-by5BJ1-9f3YVF-fGzoYy-cWqCVC-cU5nhq-duBDgb-afUtMP-mHT3vi-8yxh4U-am4xFm-89uXcN-89rZ3g Also did Bath road take over the work from another depot as I don't recall Thumpers being based at Bristol? Hi Rob, yes that is the picture I found that gave details of the change of service. To cross check it I looked through my old Locoshed books to see where the 31/4s were allocated. The 1977 book, with WR info correct to November 1976, showed no 31/4s at Bath Road, but I had amended the allocations during the year. 31401, 31414-416, 31419, 31421-424 arrived during 1977 from Finsbury Park and Old Oalk Common. The initial loco hauled service from 1977 was only roughly 2 hourly with WR DMUs working some other odd services as far as Westbury/Salisbury in the gaps. DEMUs worked stoppers from Salisbury-Southampton The DEMUs were always Eastleigh allocated units. In 1977 the sets at Eastleigh were 1101-05, 1110-11, 1121-22, 1124-33. I started on BR at Bristol in July 1977 and don't remember seeing DEMUs very often, though one sometimes turned up covering a failure, normally working straight back. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks Kevin, thats most helpful, will add some 31/4's and a thumper to the to do list! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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