JamieR4489 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I've used sand to build up the ground to the top of the rails. Just glue it like you normally would with ballast although I found it helpful to put a layer of PVA down before I layed the sand. This means it also has a nice texture, similar to that of ash. This photo shows the effect nicely. HTH, Jamie 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 Steve, I’ve just finished reading your thread through from the beginning. Finsbury Square is a very convincing back story and you have executed it beautifully. I love the semaphores you’ve built and look forward to seeing some more. I shall be following from now on. Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, JamieR4489 said: I've used sand to build up the ground to the top of the rails. Just glue it like you normally would with ballast although I found it helpful to put a layer of PVA down before I layed the sand. This means it also has a nice texture, similar to that of ash. This photo shows the effect nicely. HTH, Jamie Thank you Jamie, that does look very good. I presume the sand must be sieved quite fine? I did do some experiments using sand on scrap pieces but it came out more lumpy than that! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thegreenhowards said: Steve, I’ve just finished reading your thread through from the beginning. Finsbury Square is a very convincing back story and you have executed it beautifully. I love the semaphores you’ve built and look forward to seeing some more. I shall be following from now on. Andy Thanks Andy; glad you like what you see! Not much worth reporting lately, but hopefully there'll be more to show soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, 31A said: Thank you Jamie, that does look very good. I presume the sand must be sieved quite fine? I did do some experiments using sand on scrap pieces but it came out more lumpy than that! I didn't have to sieve it at all. I'm afraid I've no idea where it came from but I imagine it was children's play sand. Jamie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Did you get it from the club, Jamie? I know Keith used silver sand for the goods yard on Thurston and that was very fine indeed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieR4489 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) No it was rescued from my grandparents' when they were going to chuck it out. We'll have to reballast the goods yard on WM soon so I can ask then what sand we use Edited January 6, 2020 by JamieR4489 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 6, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 Having said I've not done much modelling lately, there has been some 'retail therapy' and the train spotters were surprised to see this machine in the station this afternoon: One of them said he'd seen a row of them at Hornsey but had never seen them move. They were intrigued by what looked like a steam loco shed plate on one of the cab sides which had '65A' on it. According to the Ian Allan ABC this was a place called "Eastfield" but no one knew where that was (although there was a signal box of that name near Peterborough). 10 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Eastfield Signalbox is still with us. It still controls moves around the remains of Peterborough yard. Paul 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 And the other Eastfield, a bit further north, was at one time on its last legs but is now revitalised as EMU stabling ! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 Try using Chinchilla dust instead of sand it's finer. Regards Lez. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All thumbs Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 IMHO Hornby's publicity photo this morning for the A2/2 shows the effect to aim for i.e. dirt up to level of sleeper tops, chairs standing proud and daylight under the rails. Of course, any of these A2/2s or /3s would be perfectly acceptable retail therapy! Is there any cure for locoholism (but then again, why would anyone want to be cured...)? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, All thumbs said: IMHO Hornby's publicity photo this morning for the A2/2 shows the effect to aim for i.e. dirt up to level of sleeper tops, chairs standing proud and daylight under the rails. Of course, any of these A2/2s or /3s would be perfectly acceptable retail therapy! Is there any cure for locoholism (but then again, why would anyone want to be cured...)? Yes, thank you, that's the kind of effect I had in mind. Including the loco! A cure for Locoholism - no I don't think so - next winter could be expensive! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 hours ago, lezz01 said: Try using Chinchilla dust instead of sand it's finer. Regards Lez. Thanks Lez, I'll see if I can get hold of some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, 31A said: Thanks Lez, I'll see if I can get hold of some. You'll need to grind up an awful lot of chinchillas for a layout your size... 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: You'll need to grind up an awful lot of chinchillas for a layout your size... Oh dear, that sounds rather messy! Perhaps I'll stick to sand .... 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, All thumbs said: IMHO Hornby's publicity photo this morning for the A2/2 shows the effect to aim for i.e. dirt up to level of sleeper tops, chairs standing proud and daylight under the rails. Of course, any of these A2/2s or /3s would be perfectly acceptable retail therapy! Is there any cure for locoholism (but then again, why would anyone want to be cured...)? Will that beast fit your turntable? I hope so. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, All thumbs said: IMHO Hornby's publicity photo this morning for the A2/2 shows the effect to aim for i.e. dirt up to level of sleeper tops, chairs standing proud and daylight under the rails. Of course, any of these A2/2s or /3s would be perfectly acceptable retail therapy! Is there any cure for locoholism (but then again, why would anyone want to be cured...)? To stave off bankruptcy? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Will that beast fit your turntable? I hope so. Unfortunately for my wallet, it will! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, great northern said: To stave off bankruptcy? Apart from that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 hours ago, 31A said: Having said I've not done much modelling lately, there has been some 'retail therapy' and the train spotters were surprised to see this machine in the station this afternoon: One of them said he'd seen a row of them at Hornsey but had never seen them move. They were intrigued by what looked like a steam loco shed plate on one of the cab sides which had '65A' on it. According to the Ian Allan ABC this was a place called "Eastfield" but no one knew where that was (although there was a signal box of that name near Peterborough). I see you’ve renumbered it to a Hornsey one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Chinchilla dust/sand is widely available from pet shops or from both ebay and amazon. It's around £6 kg I brought a couple of kgs around 20 years ago and I still have loads left after using it on a couple of layouts for cinders in yards. Of course you have to colour it but that's true for almost everything we use as ground cover. Regards Lez. Edited January 7, 2020 by lezz01 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, lezz01 said: Chinchilla dust/sand is widely available from pet shops or from both ebay and amazon. It's around £6 kg I brought a couple of kgs around 20 years ago and I still have loads left after using it on a couple of layouts for cinders in yards. Of course you have to colour it but that's true for almost everything we use as ground cover. Regards Lez. Thanks Lez, I have a shop in mind that I will look in when I go into town and see whether they sell it. I was only joking about the mess!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 7, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Baby Deltic said: I see you’ve renumbered it to a Hornsey one. Yes, I thought it ought to be done! If it had been a Stratford one I might have left it alone, but decided Ipswich was a stretch too far. The one I bought was D6121 so I thought I'd save effort and transfers by just substituting a '0' for the '2', hopefully that isn't too obvious! I couldn't find many pictures of D6101 on the GN, but mindful of the discussion about the main grilles being altered, I did find this picture of it which to my mind does show the later version, as modelled: https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p463703822/h84ADFA20#ha4617463 And if it doesn't, it's too late to worry about it now as I've done it anyway. In "Diesels Around London" I found two pictures of D6102 on the GN, showing earlier and later pattern grilles. The picture on p33 at Potters Bar shows the earlier type and the caption says was taken in June 1959; the other (on p29; says approaching Hadley Wood although looks more like south of Hatfield to me) shows the later type and the caption says was taken in August 1959. Anyway I've taken that as confirmation that the grilles were changed before they went to Scotland. As indeed @Clive Mortimore has pointed out elsewhere, which is good enough for me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, 31A said: Yes, I thought it ought to be done! If it had been a Stratford one I might have left it alone, but decided Ipswich was a stretch too far. The one I bought was D6121 so I thought I'd save effort and transfers by just substituting a '0' for the '2', hopefully that isn't too obvious! I couldn't find many pictures of D6101 on the GN, but mindful of the discussion about the main grilles being altered, I did find this picture of it which to my mind does show the later version, as modelled: https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p463703822/h84ADFA20#ha4617463 And if it doesn't, it's too late to worry about it now as I've done it anyway. In "Diesels Around London" I found two pictures of D6102 on the GN, showing earlier and later pattern grilles. The picture on p33 at Potters Bar shows the earlier type and the caption says was taken in June 1959; the other (on p29; says approaching Hadley Wood although looks more like south of Hatfield to me) shows the later type and the caption says was taken in August 1959. Anyway I've taken that as confirmation that the grilles were changed before they went to Scotland. As indeed @Clive Mortimore has pointed out elsewhere, which is good enough for me! The two piece cast grilles were very short lived because they caused overheating which in turn caused the engines to shut down causing havoc out on the GN mainline. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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