RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2014 And as it happens my train tonight from bescot to hinksey is 70804 and the point carrying wagons!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2014 some pics while im on a break..... added plates to stop people climbing on the wagon/wheel area note the cantrail stripe! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridangel77 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neil didn't scratch build them my dad did and he is also scratch building the kirow crane and support kfa wagons to go with the rest of the train Dan sorry my mistake but still a very good job well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 They are some great pictures big jim where are you going with the train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GWRPhil Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2014 They are some great pictures big jim where are you going with the train I agree those are some really great shots. It's always good to see your photos jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Dan, Jims previous post says he was going from Bescot to Hinksey, which is between Didcot and Oxford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Dan, Jims previous post says he was going from Bescot to Hinksey, which is between Didcot and Oxford. I should really learn to read more Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 lol, no worries Dan, 37 looks good by the way.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2014 Not quite certain how many IFA's that Network rail have, but they run as singles and bar-coupled sets of three. They each are just under 25m long, so possibly the longest vehicles on the network. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 These images aren't a patch on Big Jim's but might fill in a few gaps. They were taken late afternoon- about 17.30-18.20 on 21st May 2011 on the Greenford branch when a new facing crossover and junction point for the eastern curve were being installed north of S. Greenford station. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Here's the rest of the sequence from the Greenford job. These are not great photos as they were taken with a fairly old digital camera from a lineside footpath and the A40 footbridge alongside the railway bridge. They do though show the gear in use and might add something. Sadly this LQ semaphore has now been replaced by a two aspect LED CLS though still controlled by Greenford East box (which used to have its own website) the corresponding semaphore signal for trains coming on the loop from Perivale is still with us. I notice that the next image is of the same wagon 9378 as the end one in Big Jim's photos from today and that also appears in one of Mick's photos. It looks as new today as it did in 2011!! If it really is the only one I'd have expected it to be a bit more weathered by now. The thing I found most intriguing was the use of a portable compressor - or possibly a generator- to power the hydraulic rams on each wagon to lower the section to the horizontal so that it could be lifted off by the mobile crane on the up line. I think our layouts would be a lot simpler if laying a couple or three points involved this much work. They were working on this pretty solidly for several days. Edited April 10, 2014 by Pacific231G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2014 Lots of pipework! Cheers, Mick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Lots of pipework! IFA4.jpg Cheers, Mick Indeed. I've seen less in the wing of an airliner. I assume the thicker ones are for the main platform rams and the thin ones for the various clamps. The signage is interesting. I think we'd all go along with not loose shunting a sophisticated machine like this as if it were a four wheel coal wagon. I know that R70m means minimum radius of 70 metres (3 feet in 00) and I assume that the 500m symbol above it indicates the minimum vertical curve (i.e. hump) that it can handle but what on earth are you so expressly forbidden from doing with a rail? Edited April 10, 2014 by Pacific231G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Oh guys that's some brilliant pics you both found thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 lol, no worries Dan, 37 looks good by the way.. Hi Scott Thanks mate I will be starting on colas class 56 and colas class 60 tomorrow then I got the full family of colas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2014 i didn't realise there were 2 different types of wagon, anyway i had 8 point carriers in my train tonight so i waited while it was shunted forward at hinksey to see what the consist was as the train list gives up no clues! basically i had....... 70804 OAA 3 coupled point carrier (7093780262-247-254) single point carrier (7093780239) single point carrier (7093780155) 3 coupled point carrier (709378148-163-213) 3 x yra 2 x fda 3 x ywa totalling 1112 tons, a nice easy load for the 70! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2014 i didn't realise there were 2 different types of wagon, anyway i had 8 point carriers in my train tonight so i waited while it was shunted forward at hinksey to see what the consist was as the train list gives up no clues! basically i had....... 70804 OAA 3 coupled point carrier (7093780262-247-254) single point carrier (7093780239) single point carrier (7093780155) 3 coupled point carrier (709378148-163-213) 3 x yra 2 x fda 3 x ywa totalling 1112 tons, a nice easy load for the 70! Every time I've seen IFA's, there's always an OAA or OBA at one end and a YRA at the other. I think the OAA/OBA is there to collect all the wood packing pieces and at least one of the YRA's is the lifting beam carrier. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2014 i think your right mick, the 4 mesh sided wheeler did indeed have wooden packaging in it as can be seen in my pics passed an interesting consist at rycroft jn this evening too....... EWS 66 beam carrier wagon network rail MPV! points carrying wagons x 6 salmons falcons very strange to see an mpv in the consist rather than behind the loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Oh guys I am loving all the info on the wagons and consists Cheers big jim and mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian b Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm working with these at Flitwick this Sat and Sun nights so if there's anything specific you'd like to know give me a shout! Hopefully more successfully than last time when one had to be dragged back to Toton at 25mph on a wheel skate due to flats... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 When these wagons were first delivered, they came as pairs, not trios, but the set-length listed on each wagon corresponded with that of a triple-wagon set. If the intermediate couplings are bar-couplings, I wonder how the middle wagons were delivered- did they have conventional baffing and drawgear, which was subsequently removed? They travel under 'X' headcodes; it's pretty important that the train arrives at the worksite orientated in the correct way, as you don't want to try and turn a set of points if you can avoid it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm working with these at Flitwick this Sat and Sun nights so if there's anything specific you'd like to know give me a shout! Hopefully more successfully than last time when one had to be dragged back to Toton at 25mph on a wheel skate due to flats... Oh yes to be honest mate any pictures would be good of anything you can get mate thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Don't fancy modelling one on a wheel skate then Dan? Big hugs x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Great photo's with plenty of detail - Thanks to all who posted them. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Lots of pipework! IFA4.jpg Cheers, Mick Hi Mick This from your photo is the symbol I'm curious about. Is it something about not clamping the point section by the rail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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