TheWeatheringMan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Jeff, Oh no contest there ! Definitely 'Kruger' himself -such a beautiful ugly brute - although 'Mrs Kruger' wasn't quite so bad and 'the family of eight' were positively good looking by comparison. Can't quite explain why but I've always liked the 'Krugers' - unless its because among Swindon locos they really stand out from the crowd. Regards PS, And a 'Kruger' is very easy to scratchbuild with no taper boiler or Belpair firebox, a flat footplate and no splashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 There is also a drawing of the 3901 class in Model Railways April 1975. It's on my list. Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatheringMan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Stefan, I didn't know or have forgotten about that one. I tend to work from the Russell books as the drawings in them are mostly Swindon Works or Col. Templer and can be trusted to a very big extent. I seem to remember that Cyril Freezer did a 3901 drawing but with all respect to a great man I normally steer clear of his drawings as they are not always totally accurate - I found this out to my cost many years after I scratchbuilt a Great Bear using the CJF drawing only to find out the taper on the boiler was in the wrong place - boy was that difficult to correct on a soldered brass model. I would have to say that Ian Beattie and Roche drawings should be treated with caution also. All the drawings I've consulted by Maskelyne have been correct. I have every book by Russell in my library so if you ever need info................ All the Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Thanks for the offer WeatheringMan, I will certainly take you up on it. The 3901 article and drawing in Model Railways is penned by D. H. Townsley. Any thoughts on him? Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatheringMan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Stefan, I think you are probably referring to Don Townsley. I do remember articles by him many years ago (I seem to remember wagon articles in the old Model Railway News or Model Railway Constructor but it is a long time ago now so memory may have slipped) and I've not heard anything to suggest his work was in any way flawed. I think it would be fair to say he comes from the era of the 'greats' such as CJF, P.D.Hancock, Peter Denny and David Jenkinson to name only a few, and should be included in that category, so I personally would be inclined to accept his writings as excellent info. All the Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2014 ....are we allowed to mention the Schools on here? I saw it on the Newsagent's floor today (in a package that is). P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 ....are we allowed to mention the Schools on here? I saw it on the Newsagent's floor today (in a package that is). P No. Disengaging tongue from cheek and seeking coat... All the best, Castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2014 No. Disengaging tongue from cheek and seeking coat... All the best, Castle OK I won't then.........................but it actually looked quite good nestling next to a box of crisps and some tatty Daily Mirrors. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Sorry Quacks - somebody HAD to do it and I got there first! I wonder if the team behind GBL had any idea what they were unleashing? It will be interesting to what the the modellers from the Southern Regions will be able to do something with them... I'm looking forward to many more interesting build threads! All the best, Castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatheringMan Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi All, This is off thread but an appeal for help chaps. The last few days I've found that when I reply to a post using the reply quoting this one option that the original does not appear with my reply only the new text from me. This is happening on two different pc's - one a laptop on windows 7 and a tablet on windows 8. Its a bit annoying as it means replies don't connect with the intended post. All used to be well but it seemed to start about last weekend. Many thanks for any advice guys. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Wish I could help. We need experts, pronto! Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi Keith, Got to agree with you there - a real odd-ball one that. Whilst it does appeal due to its strange looks at the moment I'm drawn more to the likes of Barnums, 517's and Armstrong Goods after my first list. Another oddish tank I will probably build is one of the inside cylinder 2-6-2 type converted from 'Dean Goods' for Birmingham Suburban work. Many years ago the Railway Modeller carried an article by one Brian Huxley entitled 'The Plastic Prairie' which I think may have used K's chassis and a scratchbuilt body. Regards The article recommended using a Wrenn/Dublo R1 chassis, with a scratchbuilt body, as it had (at the time) finer wheels than the Hornby 0-6-0. Got my chassis from Hattons for GBP 3/19/6d! I built my 39xx by this method (my first ever go at scratchbuilding). Sadly, by my standards today, it has several faults and is due for a new body - on the to do list, as the chassis is quiet and runs well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi All, This is off thread but an appeal for help chaps. The last few days I've found that when I reply to a post using the reply quoting this one option that the original does not appear with my reply only the new text from me. This is happening on two different pc's - one a laptop on windows 7 and a tablet on windows 8. Its a bit annoying as it means replies don't connect with the intended post. All used to be well but it seemed to start about last weekend. Many thanks for any advice guys. Regards Are you using IE11? If so, it could be a well-known issue. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 25, 2014 Got my chassis from Hattons for GBP 3/19/6d! That's more than my complete R1! (and my E3001 only cost 67/6d (£3/7/6) - the price was still on the box when I sold it) Are you sure it wasn't £2/19/6? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidR Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 That's more than my complete R1! (and my E3001 only cost 67/6d (£3/7/6) - the price was still on the box when I sold it) Are you sure it wasn't £2/19/6? Keith It was 40+ years ago, so my memory may be at fault. But I do remember getting a free religious pamphlet , enclosed in the package,from Mr. Hatton's wife (Mildred?) extolling me to seek God. At the time I was seeking some decent plans of a 39xx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Lining and number plate next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatheringMan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi Stefan, She really is looking good now !. I am really looking forward to seeing her with the lining on. Perhaps you'll let us enjoy and drool over a photo or two of her on the chassis very soon - I hope so. All the Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Can I ask a dumb question? Is the gloss finish to make application of transfers more effective? Was that done by applying gloss/satin varnish over the matt black coat shown earlier or is it a gloss/satin black coat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 It's not a dumb question. The gloss varnish is for the transfers (and for a little depth in the paint) I do gloss varnish then transfers then gloss again before finishing off with either semi-gloss or flat varnish. I like doing it this way, but it's not the only way. Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Thanks. I'm trying some repaints into wartime black, that's helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I forgot to mention that I never use gloss paint. Sometimes satin on small details but always flat paint on larger areas. Regards, Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCuckoo Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 really, really nice - as usual, Stefan - looking forward to seeing it finished. Mine is sitting on the mantelpiece while I decide what to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 The red paint (and forthcoming lining) really brings it to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 That's looking good. Can I ask a chimpish question? Due to the generosity of Knobhead I now have a complete 28xx, and I've tidied it up and painted it back to unlined GWR green. Or what Humbrol says is Brunswick green... It looks a bit bright (I've got varnish on it at the moment as recommended whilst handling and before placing decals) - what's the general opinion of that Humbrol shade - will it look better when flattened with matt varnish and toned down by the black areas? Or is it a dead loss, buy the Precision Paints and overspray it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2014 That's looking good. Can I ask a chimpish question? Due to the generosity of Knobhead I now have a complete 28xx, and I've tidied it up and painted it back to unlined GWR green. Or what Humbrol says is Brunswick green... It looks a bit bright (I've got varnish on it at the moment as recommended whilst handling and before placing decals) - what's the general opinion of that Humbrol shade - will it look better when flattened with matt varnish and toned down by the black areas? Or is it a dead loss, buy the Precision Paints and overspray it? The problem with any colour on a prototype loco is, once in service, it is subject to the effects of weather and that can change the shade enormously. (Just look how BR blue looked a couple of years out of the paint shop!) The given colour is OK ex-works and even that varied from period to period! Keith EDIT in BR days the BR passenger green (so called Brunswick) always looked different to me on a Castle or a Jubilee, similar size and shape locos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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