RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 http://www.mnr.org.uk/index.php/2014/05/01/theft-in-the-dead-of-night/ Keep your eyes open (Let's not have calls for hanging etc. of the perpetrators please!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Seems an unusual, and rather specific thing to have gone after, hope they catch them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 1, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 Seems an unusual, and rather specific thing to have gone after, hope they catch them. My thoughts exactly, almost "to order" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Batteries, especially lead acid ones have a scrap value. Hopefully the police have some suspects in their sights and/or are aware of any dodgy scrap dealers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well I ask you. If you are going to leave things overnight in a locked storage area behind padlocked gates you're just asking for them to be stolen. but more seriously yet more evidence of the complete lack of regard certain sections of society have for the rights of others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 http://www.mnr.org.uk/index.php/2014/05/01/theft-in-the-dead-of-night/ Keep your eyes open (Let's not have calls for hanging etc. of the perpetrators please!) What an absolutely awfull (andcompletely illegible) colour scheme to put out something that important - the only way to read it is to highlight the whole section. The person responsible for it should be taken out and shot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Looks alright on my Mac, Jack. White background with dark blue/black border....... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Mine shows as greyish lettering on a dark blue background Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Seems to unfortunately be a minor rise in theft's from pres railways as of late, what with the benches from the K&WVR, Batteries from the Mid Norfolk and a the (fortunately just) theft of charity boxes from the Avon Valley Railway on the 29th. All I can say is good luck to each of the forces on each case, and that in this day and age security and vigelance sadly should be one of the highest priorities to pres sites (not just railways sadly either).https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/newsroom/appeal-over-burglary-at-avon-valley-railway-charity/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 Regrettable indeed and I'm sure we can all come up with ideas on how to punish the guilty (not in this thread though!) but the volunteers have a responsibility too. Enthusiastic as they are, there's still some things you'd better not share with John Doe, his wife's 4 times removed cousin and the milkman's granny You'll never know where that info ends up, in this case the culprits knew where they'd need to go for maximum result on their part. They've obviously no link with heritage railways (or railways in general), otherwise they wouldn't have committed the crime. Still, they knew where to find the expensive stuff so where did they get their info from? It could only have come from those who knew what was there, and inadvertently (and unknowingly) shared it with the wrong people. NOTE: this is not about blaming the hard-working volunteers (far from it!!), but about making them aware of the consequences of 'sharing too much'. Why wouldn't the information come from somebody just keeping their eyes open? Not everything can be done away from sight or in the dead of night.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 They've obviously no link with heritage railways (or railways in general), otherwise they wouldn't have committed the crime. Not necessarily, I've heard in the past of even more 'specialised' stuff being stolen, allegedly! There are thieves in every walk of life I'm afraid, we had one at our show a year or two back. Respectable looking bloke from well out of town, not there purely by chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH-UK Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Regrettable indeed and I'm sure we can all come up with ideas on how to punish the guilty (not in this thread though!) but the volunteers have a responsibility too. Enthusiastic as they are, there's still some things you'd better not share with John Doe, his wife's 4 times removed cousin and the milkman's granny You'll never know where that info ends up, in this case the culprits knew where they'd need to go for maximum result on their part. They've obviously no link with heritage railways (or railways in general), otherwise they wouldn't have committed the crime. Still, they knew where to find the expensive stuff so where did they get their info from? It could only have come from those who knew what was there, and inadvertently (and unknowingly) shared it with the wrong people. NOTE: this is not about blaming the hard-working volunteers (far from it!!), but about making them aware of the consequences of 'sharing too much'. It doesn't have to be the volunteer, there's always someone at an open day/operating weekend who refuses to be restricted by the fences or other barriers, for whom a gap of 2 inches between a stake and a wall has to mean it's actually an access point etc. The first priority is keeping the public safe, site security has to come a close second. Equally if at an open day/weekend a volunteer is asked "what is that building used for?" they give the innocent answer "just storage" but someone casing the place now has a focus (and that's assuming that someone casing the place isn't bright enough to work out for themselves what is storage). cheers Chris H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Mine shows as greyish lettering on a dark blue background Ouch, that would cripple my eyes too.....must be the tartan version... Is there any other use for the missing batteries except locos/carriages? I mean they were not after other metals were they? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Looks alright on my Mac, Jack. White background with dark blue/black border....... Best, Pete. Looks the same for me in IE11 and Firefox 27 on Windows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Shedman5 Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 Looks alright on my Mac, Jack. White background with dark blue/black border....... Best, Pete. Same here, using Windows 7 Firefox Methinks these were stolen to order, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Another blow for the NNR, following on from the signalbox fire, visiting locos not visiting etc. As a matter of interest, the KESR had all the cast iron lamp posts pinched from Wittersham Road a while ago; they were replaced with fibre glass replicas which also showed signs of being pinched until the perpetrators realised they weren't cast iron... The RHDR had a lot of cab fittings from "The Bug" stolen last year. where will it all end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Another blow for the NNR, following on from the signalbox fire, visiting locos not visiting etc. This blow is to the Mid-Norfolk Railway, not the North Norfolk. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-dereham Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I understand that the police recovered everything from a stolen van. In terms of why pinch the stuff --- scrap value, particularly the lead in batteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Good that it was recovered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77philg Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 lead acid batteries of this type (industrial) command a good scrap value roughly £400 a tonne, a starter battery and ancillary battery are around a tonne for a loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 SNIP but more seriously yet more evidence of the complete lack of regard certain sections of society have for the rights of others. I don't think that's changed much over the years. People who do thieve professionally have no second (or later) thoughts for the harm or pain it causes the innocents affected. While I was growing up in East London, my local church had it's costly lead roofing taken off by thieves at least twice before I got to my teens. And of course the health of the driver involved in the great train robbery was destroyed merely because he was unfortunately in the way of the thieves getting what they wanted. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 lead acid batteries of this type (industrial) command a good scrap value roughly £400 a tonne, a starter battery and ancillary battery are around a tonne for a loco. While true, it's nothing like £3000-4000 a ton which copper products can be worth, which would make me question if these were for the scrap market or to be sold to other users at a cut-price. Paul A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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