Fat Controller Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Thank you for the explanation. I had the wrong end of the stick - what I thought were chute doors on the second wagon are in fact extensions to the chutes. It would make sense that the bulk of the load wasn't retained by small doors on each chute :-) Perhaps odd that they have different types of wagon in the group of 5; either the set works on third rail territory or it doesn't? I wondered about that. I wonder how fixed the formation of such trains is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 25 June 2014 3 for the wagon fans: IOA: JNA: MTA: John 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 66121 arrives with a empty coal train and leaves half an hour later: 66952 moves and then couples to a rake of JNAs: John 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I had the wrong end of the stick - what I thought were chute doors on the second wagon are in fact extensions to the chutes. It would make sense that the bulk of the load wasn't retained by small doors on each chute :-) Perhaps odd that they have different types of wagon in the group of 5; either the set works on third rail territory or it doesn't? "Inner" HQA seem to have the extra chutes, and the "outers" don't - JJA seem to be mostly without, but at least a couple do have them - i've not heard a really compelling reason why the mix of setups though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Noticed a few days ago that additional fencing was going up all round the yard with security at the main road entrance - apparently a bunch of guys dressed in Network Rail gear drove a flatbed truck in to the yard a couple of weeks ago and made off with over £20,000 worth of gear... None of which affects access to the bridge so here are some photos from 28 June 2014: 66599 shunting: 66952 & 66701: 66200, a regular visitor on the coal trains: 66559: 66563: 66510 & 66559: 08752: John 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Great pics John. I couldn't make it to TY this afternoon, only got as far as the Metro Centre with Mrs A. However, as I consolation I did see a 66, problem was I couldn't resist buying it at Smiths/Modelzone. Without postage actually cheaper than Hattons! Your TY thread has got me interested in 66s, much to my surprise. Maybe it's time to move forward from the 1980s to 'Contemporary Image Modelling' cheers, Mal 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Did they have anymore as I'm after a DB Schenker 66? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Just to prove it's not all 66s a couple of surprises this afternoon: This one took me completely by surprise so were taken with the zoom on and without the camera resting on anything so aren't the best but I give you 57313 and 57318: and now something I've not seen for a long time, a Class 60, looking resplendent in DB Schenker livery, 60015 at the south end of Tyne Yard just about to join the mainline: And back to the 66s, 66527 & 66595 top and tail a train of yellow stuff: John Edited June 28, 2014 by johndon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Did they have anymore as I'm after a DB Schenker 66? John Sorry, John I got the last one £99.99. I also picked a Bachmann weathered Polybulk hopper. They have the non-weathered one still in stock. The Polybulks are now hard to find and already starting to sell at inflated prices on e-bay. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I walked past Smiths last night, never thought to pop in as they normally don't have much... John Edited June 28, 2014 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 That sixty looks good in DB red sort of encourages me to think of uping my layout era ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) Thank you for the explanation. I had the wrong end of the stick - what I thought were chute doors on the second wagon are in fact extensions to the chutes. It would make sense that the bulk of the load wasn't retained by small doors on each chute :-) Perhaps odd that they have different types of wagon in the group of 5; either the set works on third rail territory or it doesn't? I wondered about that. I wonder how fixed the formation of such trains is? Hi John, I hope you don't mind me hijacking your excellent TY thread. The autoballaster sets are usually formed in sets of 5 - the HQA's are semi-permanently coupled with buckeyes within the rake and buffers on the outer two. They are usually formed of generator fitted outer, three inners (with extended chutes" and non-generator outer. The extended chutes are used when the ballast is required a bit further away from the rails. The "original" autoballasters were modified from KPA hoppers into JJA's. with the later build of HQA's being purpose built. They JJA's are single wagons with buffers at both ends, but still usually marshalled in sets of five and it's not uncommon for the generator to be "mid-set". They are sometimes formed as 4 or 6's, but this isn't too common these days. There are a handful of JJA's with extended chutes. And the last two (?) batches of HQA's don't have extended chutes either. There are quite visible differences between the JJA and HQA - the last pic in post#55 is a JJA, recognisable with the chassis mounted handbrake wheel, bogie type and the rectangular brackets on the solebar, just above the hopper doors. Cheers, Mick Edited June 28, 2014 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 A couple more pics of the old hump control tower taken from the south end of the yard with the ECML in the foreground: John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 And for those of you who like the yellow stuff: John 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Hi John, I hope you don't mind me hijacking your excellent TY thread. Cheers, Mick Not at all, it's all interesting stuff. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 More TY influence on my layout. A JNA arrived yesterday! Mal 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 This afternoon saw 66108 & 66200 running around: and 4 Freightliner 66s, 66546, 66527, 66595 and one unknown: John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Great pics John. I'm beginning to regret selling my Bachmann 66200, it seems to be a regular at TY. Mal Edited June 29, 2014 by Alcanman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Great pics John. I'm beginning to regret selling my Bachmann 66200, it seems to be a regular at TY. Mal Funny you should say that as I'm currently bidding on 66200 on eBay but it looks like it might go for more that I wanted to pay... John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted June 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2014 johndon, on 29 Jun 2014 - 19:21, said: Funny you should say that as I'm currently bidding on 66200 on eBay but it looks like it might go for more that I wanted to pay... John There's another just starting!- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/00-Gauge-Bachman-class-66-Diesel-66200-DCC-Ready-/201118927243?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2ed39f498b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 To my surprise, I won the auction and I've just become the owner of a Bachmann 66200, now to work out how to do the faded decals as per the prototype... John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2014 To my surprise, I won the auction and I've just become the owner of a Bachmann 66200, now to work out how to do the faded decals as per the prototype... John Try contacting John Peck at Precision Decals - he's done faded EWS numbers/logos for 60024. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 Cheers Mick, much appreciated. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Tyne Yard in the sunshine on 30 June 2014 66546: 66121: 66183: 66165: 66425: John Edited July 1, 2014 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 1 July saw 08752 shunting: 66456 preparing to depart with a train of MRAs: and a few assorted wagons: John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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