Black 5 Bear Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Has anyone as yet received this model from Hornby Direct or elsewhere, if so could they comment on the build quality and weathering ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2014 Has anyone as yet received this model from Hornby Direct or elsewhere, if so could they comment on the build quality and weathering ??? If memory serves Rob (robmcg) has one (or possibly two) winging their way to New Zealand, so watch this space Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted September 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2014 . Has anyone as yet received this model from Hornby Direct or elsewhere, if so could they comment on the build quality and weathering ??? Thanks for asking for that.A most appropriate question given present circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I saw this on Saturday and the build quality looks good and the new packaging helps with the tender coupling, the detail is up to the standard of my Brown Jack model from a few years a go. The weathering is one of Hornby's better efforts ie the top of the loco is not clean as some previous models and I like the thick layer of muck on the front buffer beam. The weathering is a good enough for a ready to run model and I would say offers a great starting point for adding a bit more refined weathering and some real coal would finish off the model nicely. I have put one aside at my local shop and will collect in a couple of weeks as I have been advised all are sold at Hornby so if you want one be quick only 1000 produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 I saw this on Saturday and the build quality looks good and the new packaging helps with the tender coupling, the detail is up to the standard of my Brown Jack model from a few years a go. The weathering is one of Hornby's better efforts ie the top of the loco is not clean as some previous models and I like the thick layer of muck on the front buffer beam. The weathering is a good enough for a ready to run model and I would say offers a great starting point for adding a bit more refined weathering and some real coal would finish off the model nicely. I have put one aside at my local shop and will collect in a couple of weeks as I have been advised all are sold at Hornby so if you want one be quick only 1000 produced. Thanks for the info, I have one on Pre-Order with Hattons which they tell me will be one of the second batch in my case for delivery sometime after the 7th of November, It's going to be an expensive Christmas, Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrn Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I've just managed to purchase on from waltons in Altrincham, I'll post some pics on here once I recieve it in couple of days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If memory serves Rob (robmcg) has one (or possibly two) winging their way to New Zealand, so watch this space Still waiting for the package to land on the doorstep, but it sounds like a lovely model, if as good as a weathered Brown Jack... that would be nudging £200 if from TMC Rob p.s. actually toboldlygo I have fallen prey to the collector bug, I had it once with N15s and to some mild degree with Bulleid Light Pacifics, but now it is Merchant Navys... I see them sometimes at prices well under £100, or did until recently, and now have them (nearly) all... 35010 -1-2-6-9 35020-1-3-5-6-7-8-9 there really will be men in white coats if this gets worse, I actually ENJOY it! Buying the weathered Scotsman will keep me sane. Should make nice photos too. Cheers, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2014 Photos on Hattons site now - search for Flying Scotsman and it comes up as available for pre order Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 As you say Mike it looks good and with real coal and some slight touches representing lubricant and maybe some water staining or rust staining will be superb! Nice to see pre-fitted brakerods, front 3-link and hose too. I'm presuming more will be available before long. It represents the return of Hornby to quality modelling if they can get the volumes up maybe even breaking-even in 2 years. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2014 It does look great. I love how the number on the cabsides is partially obscured beneath the firth and the tender fronts have the bottom corner of the lining hidden beneath then footplate wash out grime. Very much looking forward to mine arriving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 Sorry to introduce a dissenting note,gents,but I see no fitted brake rods or other accessories apart from a screwlink coupling.It also appears to come with the dreaded plug connector and not to have the more permanent version seen on other later Hornby models,which,if I am correct,is disappointing. As to the weathering,well,from Hattons images,I can't see any grease or staining myself.....I wouldn't honestly expect any because that would add to labour & time costs. My verdict thus far...a standard spray job but heavier.For the best to date in factory weathering in OO,you must look to Dapol. This is an improvement on previous models,however. Now,the next thing is the dreaded QC.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 Sorry to introduce a dissenting note,gents,but I see no fitted brake rods or other accessories apart from a screwlink coupling.It also appears to come with the dreaded plug connector and not to have the more permanent version seen on other later Hornby models,which,if I am correct,is disappointing. As to the weathering,well,from Hattons images,I can't see any grease or staining myself.....I wouldn't honestly expect any because that would add to labour & time costs. My verdict thus far...a standard spray job but heavier.For the best to date in factory weathering in OO,you must look to Dapol. This is an improvement on previous models,however. Now,the next thing is the dreaded QC.... In your case Ian, don't walk under any ladders or break any mirrors. As you always seem to get the duff ones... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 In your case Ian, don't walk under any ladders or break any mirrors. As you always seem to get the duff ones...I'll be staying with what I've got.....60039/77/93. Reckon you'd do a proper job on an A 3 anyway,James.....grease,water deposits,rust etc....Yes,my track record with Hornby recently ain't brilliant.To cap it all,my specs broke in two last week...but that's another story Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'll be staying with what I've got.....60039/77/93. Reckon you'd do a proper job on an A 3 anyway,James.....grease,water deposits,rust etc....Yes,my track record with Hornby recently ain't brilliant.To cap it all,my specs broke in two last week...but that's another story Cheers! Funnily enough I do have an A3 waiting in the wings... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Regarding the plug - IF the new packaging allows teh loco and tender to be stored closer together, is there not every chance that the plug can be left in. She generally does look well made. I wonder who by - the last of Sanda Kan or the first Refined Industries A3? I'm guessing since the A4s are with REF the A3s are as well given the amount of shared tooling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Sorry to introduce a dissenting note,gents,but I see no fitted brake rods or other accessories apart from a screwlink coupling.It also appears to come with the dreaded plug connector and not to have the more permanent version seen on other later Hornby models,which,if I am correct,is disappointing. As to the weathering,well,from Hattons images,I can't see any grease or staining myself.....I wouldn't honestly expect any because that would add to labour & time costs. My verdict thus far...a standard spray job but heavier.For the best to date in factory weathering in OO,you must look to Dapol. This is an improvement on previous models,however. Now,the next thing is the dreaded QC.... Maybe I'm not so keen now, I thought the plug connector according to Hornby was dead and buried due to it's fragility, I suppose my other loco on pre-order Bittern (Double Tender Version) is likely to be the same, may have to rethink this after having previously purchased loco's with this set up !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 Maybe I'm not so keen now, I thought the plug connector according to Hornby was dead and buried due to it's fragility, I suppose my other loco on pre-order Bittern (Double Tender Version) is likely to be the same, may have to rethink I hope I'm wrong on this but that's how it appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I hope I'm wrong on this but that's how it appears. Ian, You are spot on, I have just looked on the Hornby Service downloads for both the A3 and A4 which confirms plug connection fittings on both locomotives, this is a pity as I like the Hattons pre-order photo of the weathered FS, retrograde step by this manufacturer I think !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2014 The plug is prefitted between the loco and tender. The packaging has been modified so that the loco can be packed away without having to seperate the loco and tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ian, You are spot on, I have just looked on the Hornby Service downloads for both the A3 and A4 which confirms plug connection fittings on both locomotives, this is a pity as I like the Hattons pre-order photo of the weathered FS, retrograde step by this manufacturer I think !!!
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