w4rrn Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I collected mine this afternoon from Waltons in Altrincham, its a very high quality model, very pleased with it. You can see on one of the pics I've tried to show the packaging to accommodate the tender drawbar and wire which is plugged in to the tender. Sorry about the picture quality as they are only mobile phone snap shays and the light was fading outside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Sorry about the picture quality as they are only mobile phone snap shays and the light was fading outside Worry not over picture quality....Those shots actually tell us a lot and it looks to be a fine model. I just wish the real A3's had looked looked that in the early 1950s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I hope that it isn't just like the real thing, with bent frames, and shoddy construction which needs major reworking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thanks for the above. I am relieved to see my fears unfounded and that it does appear to be a model of high standard. It does not,however,appear to be the same example as the one I've been looking at on Hattons website....not that I'm complaining ,rather relieved,in fact.The one I am looking at here suits very well indeed,especially as I won't have that b####y plug to contend with. The light weathering also appears acceptable.If QC Command have done their duty,then it's bells & whistles all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 I collected mine this afternoon from Waltons in Altrincham, its a very high quality model, very pleased with it. You can see on one of the pics I've tried to show the packaging to accommodate the tender drawbar and wire which is plugged in to the tender. Sorry about the picture quality as they are only mobile phone snap shays and the light was fading outside certificate.jpgFront_1.jpgFront_2.jpgIMG_4630.jpgIMG_4633.jpgSide_1.jpgSide_3.jpgTenderDrawbar.jpg Thank you for the pics, this clears things up nicely, I can now sit back and wait for my pre-order to arrive sometime in November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrn Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thanks for the replies guys, I'm glad you agree it's a fantastic model. It is much better in the flesh than in the photos. Very pleased with it. All I need to do now is get some track laid on my baseboard and start my depot layout. At the moment the new A3 sits along side my new TTS P2 and 11 A4's in a cabinet.. Heres the link to my plan http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91045-best-way-to-wire-this-for-dcc/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 It looks a really nice bit of work. I'd like to see 60103 in the flesh to make a judgement call on the weathering. Also nice to see a proper split handrail and lower lamp iron on the smoke box door missed out on Brown Jack. It should have an AWS bang plate under the front coupling easily replicated with a bit of plastic or brass. I've already modeled 60103 with a split hand rail and A4 tender. It may still be temping to have one of these beauties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted October 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2014 Looks much better on w4rrn's camera phone photo's than Hattons pics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2014 Looks much better on w4rrn's camera phone photo's than Hattons pics I have doubts that they are the same model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The weathered A3 is one of the best examples of RTR modelling I've seen for a while, and presumably it is not from Sanda Kan. Bravo Hornby. I shall hopefully do some photos within the week, perhaps even an unedited one here, but I have also received a Bachmann Midland Compound 1000 in Crimson Lake and it is also vying for my attention. The Compound is equally a brilliant model which by some fluke got from Sheffield to NZ in 'unboxed' form, rolled in ordinary cream packing paper like fish and chips, inside a standard brown box and cushioned only with a bit of crumpled newspaper, very basic packing and ... UNDAMAGED , brake rods, footrests and lamps etc. all intact. Maybe simpler packing is sometimes better? No bubble-wrap, no cardboard tube. I would never risk the crumpled newspaper and roll of standard paper myself, and I sell-on some of my models with web sales locally. But I digress, 60103 is simply lovely, great to see a straight model for once from Hornby! More photos in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2014 Looking forward to your pics Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Can we confirm it is not SK (although as I previously suggested, given Refined now have the A4 tooling...) - code on the white sticker on the box please? Interesting to see Mr Kohlers signature still on the certificate! Bodes well for other releases. Just a shame some of us have already spent £1000 on 6 'guinea-pig' A4s...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 R3202 A3 60103 weathered is coded REF01-90587 on my box. Pictures in few days. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 7, 2014 This suspense is killing us rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2014 Thanks for the above. I am relieved to see my fears unfounded and that it does appear to be a model of high standard. It does not,however,appear to be the same example as the one I've been looking at on Hattons website....not that I'm complaining ,rather relieved,in fact.The one I am looking at here suits very well indeed,especially as I won't have that b####y plug to contend with. The light weathering also appears acceptable.If QC Command have done their duty,then it's bells & whistles all the way. Having said I wasn't,I did and succumbed to an "offer I could not refuse" from The Hobby Shop,Faversham.( a plug here for 5* service.....£120 + courier delivery ) I have just removed it from its packaging,given it a careful eyeball to see if all was in place and tested it. QC...well,sort of ok. Tender body needed careful reclipping into place,cab doors askew...one fell off (nothing new there) and the seam atop the boiler & firebox a tad crudely executed,especially in comparison with other various Hornby A3's I have,although maybe the weathering accentuates this. Most accessories already in place...plus point and yes,loco & tender semi permanently coupled....plus point two..The weathering is a pleasant surprise,having seen Hattons images and I still don't think I'm looking at the same model. For a "factory job"...not bad at all and far better than I 've seen from Hornby to date. On the tracks,goes as well as the others& quietly. Initial reluctance to start (again,nothing new there) which caused a moment's inward groan with me,given the fact that my last two "out of the box" new Hornby locos.....R 3191 & R 3207.... were non runners until pick up shorts were eliminated. So,folks,for now,there you have it. It pulls well and should grace any layout elegantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Worry not over picture quality....Those shots actually tell us a lot and it looks to be a fine model. I just wish the real A3's had looked looked that in the early 1950s. Just noticed this,Larry...I think you mean early 60's? Otherwise it's minus deflectors and single chimney. Which for most,was the more elegant beast,I suppose.They looked fantastic in BR blue.'Merry Hampton' was the first and only one I saw in that livery.Be nice if Hornby revisited that with an A3 re run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Just noticed this,Larry...I think you mean early 60's? Otherwise it's minus deflectors and single chimney. Which for most,was the more elegant beast,I suppose.They looked fantastic in BR blue.'Merry Hampton' was the first and only one I saw in that livery.Be nice if Hornby revisited that with an A3 re run No Ian, I just wished they had smoke deflectors and double chimneys in the early 1950's. You will have guessed I am no true Gresley aficionado therefore, but merely a bloke with likes and dislikes with no particular party line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 No Ian, I just wished they had smoke deflectors and double chimneys in the early 1950's. You will have guessed I am no true Gresley aficionado therefore, but merely a bloke with likes and dislikes with no particular party line. Careful,Larry.....people get sent to The Tower for less on this site. The LNER mob will probably put out a 'contract' on you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrn Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Looks much better on w4rrn's camera phone photo's than Hattons pics Thank you Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 If anyone is still after one of these, there are two still available at my local model shop, Signal Models and on their new website (though they have not got around to adding images to it yet) https://www.signalsmodels.com/br_4_6_2_class_a3__flying_scotsman-details.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Model Store Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Found one slightly cheaper on AGR's website ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Picked up mine from Ally Pally, £130. Nice looking model, but she seems louder and a little more light footed than my NRM black model. I've taken out the spring over the pony truck, which seemed to be quite a hard spring. Traction has improved, but I'm not totally convinced it performs as well as the older model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2015 Picked up mine from Ally Pally, £130. Nice looking model, but she seems louder and a little more light footed than my NRM black model. I've taken out the spring over the pony truck, which seemed to be quite a hard spring. Traction has improved, but I'm not totally convinced it performs as well as the older model. Maybe a running in period is required? You mention it's noisy....hopefully that isn't a gear assembly problem which can and does afflict Hornby steam model locos.If in doubt,my advice is to exchange it asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Agree with the last pouster... but can you quantify the difference in haulag? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not actually tested it, although I've run it on normal track, rather than the rolling road and it seems better. Rollers probably need cleaning. I'll try and do a comparison later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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