Sirdouglas' O gauge

[sir douglas]

Lettering the OCO tank. Some areas of the red look different after going over some mistakes with the white but will be fine after varnishing

 

The stencils

 

The problem now is the writing that needs to go under the left hand O,

"Olympia Cake & Oil Co Ltd

Selby"

 

It needs to start from about the left hand side of the O and end before the plate join but even when i write it out to 1mm high its not going to fit but theres no way i'm able paint smaller than that.

 

So, do i ignore the positioning and go with this size over the strap and join as above or leave it and come to one day in the future with a transfer?

[J. S. Bach]

I would go with the transfer, however my real reason for this post is a serious question: what is the significance of the Star of David on the tanker?

[sir douglas]

Introduced by the RCH in 1923, Its a permission to run in fast trains after doing at least 100 miles in slow trains

Edited August 3, 2023 by sir douglas

[Johnson044]

23 hours ago, sir douglas said:

Lettering the OCO tank. Some areas of the red look different after going over some mistakes with the white but will be fine after varnishing

 

The stencils

 

The problem now is the writing that needs to go under the left hand O,

"Olympia Cake & Oil Co Ltd

Selby"

 

It needs to start from about the left hand side of the O and end before the plate join but even when i write it out to 1mm high its not going to fit but theres no way i'm able paint smaller than that.

 

So, do i ignore the positioning and go with this size over the strap and join as above or leave it and come to one day in the future with a transfer?

Years ago I had quite a degree of success doing small lettering with Tipp Ex typewriter correction strips. I used, from memory, I sharp 2H pencil and drew the lettering by hand  on a correction strip taped to the model- they are still available second hand on Ebay but quite expensive. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175452508962?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749386&toolid=20006&customid=GB_12576_175452508962.145629586729~1871176556365-g_Cj0KCQjwoK2mBhDzARIsADGbjeq8mfzipaYXzW9HozqiTKZncCBErkX8yiECPWmKpMU77vnYbwB-ajUaAtUHEALw_wcB

 

You can get some pretty fine white gel pens that work quite well too. Best to experiment with the paint finish underneath- I think they work best, like transfers, on a gloss finish.

[J. S. Bach]

4 hours ago, Johnson044 said:

Years ago I had quite a degree of success doing small lettering with Tipp Ex typewriter correction strips. ...snip...

 

That sound like a product (over here, anyway) called "White-Out" (other brands are available); still available in office supply stores. A sample of what I am referring to:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234972848153

 

BTW, that large gear on the right side of the dispenser has some modeling uses, too.

[sir douglas]

Felt like like starting the next 2 since they will be quite quick and easy. Both are from Airnimal's stash of rejected bodies

 

Firstly a private owner, it had slopes inside to make a hopper which i removed and added in scribed 0.25mm sheet for the planking to make it a general PO wagon. Ignore the brown inside that was just some where to use up left over paint instead of wasting it.

 

I added some tube as packing collars to the axles as the distance between the bushes were too wide. I could have packed between the axleboxes and chassis but it wouldnt have looked right

 

The other is an LNWR 2 plank, a diagram 6 i believe looking at the wagon book, all ive done to this so far is add axleboxes and wheels. 

 

This time it was the bush holes that were too big at 3mm while the bushes are 2.5mm, i just so happen to have some styrene tube which is 4mm dia with 2.5mm inner which made perfect bushing After drilling out for them

 

 I have no idea on the accuracy or the prototype of the PO to finish as it should have been so i changed to a general wagon, the LNWR matches the book drawing close enough that i cant see why it was rejected but doesnt matter, i might even also do a furniture container, ive already been thinking about one for a while but would first need to find any examples that were at least vaguely in my area

[sir douglas]

Ive had this mat for at least about 15 years and its quite rough now, so upon seeing some in Lidl i thought it was about time for a new one

[Ruston]

I can't seem to make one last more than a year. I start off with good intentions - don't do any painting or gluing  on it but within a fortnight that's forgotten and it's a mess.

[sir douglas]

 

The paint and glue didnt bother me, it was the grooves and craters slowly carved out making it awkward to find a decent flat surface, for example front-centre had worn all the way through

[Porfuera]

On 16/08/2023 at 20:04, sir douglas said:

Ive had this mat for at least about 15 years and its quite rough now, so upon seeing some in Lidl i thought it was about time for a new one

 

 

Good information about Lidl but crikey all those lines are doing my head in, especially those arcs near the top!

 

I hope it is a bit more toned down in real life! Maybe they're just being highlighted by the flash.

 

Is the other side any calmer or just the same?

Edited August 18, 2023 by Porfuera

[sir douglas]

T'other side is blank

[sir douglas]

After exhausting the google images a few days ago, i finally came across a local container but since its Hornby the accuracy is doubtful. I would have to find out if the livery existed (yes i did find that the company still exists) and secondly what was thr container itself, this looks Honby's usual job of slapping on any livery they can find onto a wagon moulding they already have which this one looks like a post grouping or BR example

 

Other than that, putting together the LNWR brakegear

[sir douglas]

On the other wagon, its painted into the base colour and its going to be finished as Charlesworth, based on this photo of Newmarket Silkstone, the back left one fits what ive got. I do also have 2 other photos of Charlesworth wagons for doing the lettering. 

 

The buffers have been filed back to add on a wooden face, and ive not yet decided whether to do 1 or 2 shoe brake

[DLT]

Just catching up with your work Sir Douglas, very nice indeed.

Cheers, Dave.

[sir douglas]

A bit on the Grimsby, there is something on top of lids that might either be vents or structural ribs but its unclear so i will leave that off. What i cant leave off though are the side door fastenings which look like hinged clamps but the photos are clear enough to tell me exactly what they look like

 

For these latest wagons ive started using Airnimal's wheelbase alignment jig idea, this one with 8' and 9'

[Mark Saunders]

Have you got the official Chas Roberts photo of it?

[sir douglas]

Ive got 2 photos from books

 

[sir douglas]

[sir douglas]

Current progress with the container

 

End door h8nges and mountings on the partitions to screw it into the wagon

[sir douglas]

Again i'm gonna be offline for a few days, going to the Swansea show with Overlord

Edited September 7, 2023 by sir douglas

[J. S. Bach]

Enjoy the show.

[sir douglas]

Back, good show as well. Something i wanted to see while i was there was the plinthed wagon in the museum next door to the venue. There was several other interesting things too

 

At the show, one of the guys on a 4mm stand behind us got out an O gauge LMS Garratt for us to gawk at

 

So we went 250 miles from Wakefield to this show and in a food festival in the park outside was a burger van from Otley, so theyve come a few miles more than us

Edited September 11, 2023 by sir douglas

[GWR57xx]

How big is that wagon??

Judging by the guy in the corner it looks enormous.

 

[sir douglas]

Its a real full size wagon

[sir douglas]

Painting stage for the container and drawing the stencil but havent yet worked out the middle section, "or" is missing from the end of contractor

 

Adding the rope hooks to the wagon for tieing down the container, had to take off he brake lever to get the drill in