Sirdouglas' O gauge

[J. S. Bach]

Your nicest one yet.

[doilum]

Are you going to share the secret of your template? 

I once considered getting the acid wagon from Powside but wasn't confident that I could change the location to Castleford successfully.

The Locke wagon is spot on. I believe the cross is described as the cross of Lorraine.

[sir douglas]

ive explained the process of the lettering before but i cant remember how far back,

 

1-draw the wagon side on paper with pen

2- draw the lettering on that in pencil, this may take several attempts to get right which is why step 1 is in pen so you dont also have to keep re drawing that

3- cut out lettering* and you now have a stencil

4- sit the stencil onto the wagon side and secure with tape at the ends

5- run a pencil around inside the letters onto the wagon side

6- remove stencil

7- paint letters following the pencil lines

 

*there may also be other things to cut out like a hole to go around anything that sticks out stopping the stencil laying flat or cut the whole stencil into 2 or more bits to fit between frame work such as the Lyons shown below

 

this is a good place to show that i recently put all my stencils onto black paper so i can display them in my photo/drawing folder, they were before kept in a little plastic packet

[sir douglas]

its weathered but not quite how i would have liked since, i over did the black wash over the lettering and could barely read itso it was wiped down with the ebrasive side of a wet sponge to take some of it off

 

all of my PO's together not includign the ficticous ones

[sir douglas]

 

[J. S. Bach]

Is that some kind of "tanker"? The hatch on the top makes me think that it is. If so, what kind of product would be carried? TIA

[sir douglas]

i forgot to mention what it is, it is a tank as you say and for Muriatic acid which is a thinned down hydrochloric still used today as a strong cleaner, the wagon built in 1907 for Hunt brothers of Castleford and registered to the NER.

 

The drawing also gives notes for the layers to insulate the inside of the tank

 

"Inside lining of 3/4" T&G* boards paraffin waxed"

"Second lining 1" layer of pitch and sand"

"Third c??ing** 3"T&G boards insulated from wagon body by  1/4" thick tarred felt"

 

*T&G most likely means tongue & groove

** i cant quite make out what this word is which looks like cabing or casing, it definitely isnt lining

Edited August 26, 2022 by sir douglas

[Hesperus]

Covering?

 

Fantastic work as always.

[doilum]

On 26/08/2022 at 18:06, sir douglas said:

i forgot to mention what it is, it is a tank as you say and for Muriatic acid which is a thinned down hydrochloric still used today as a strong cleaner, the wagon built in 1907 for Hunt brothers of Castleford and registered to the NER.

 

The drawing also gives notes for the layers to insulate the inside of the tank

 

"Inside lining of 3/4" T&G* boards paraffin waxed"

"Second lining 1" layer of pitch and sand"

"Third c??ing** 3"T&G boards insulated from wagon body by  1/4" thick tarred felt"

 

*T&G most likely means tongue & groove

** i cant quite make out what this word is which looks like cabing or casing, it definitely isnt lining

I'm not sure where I read it but I believe the acid itself was in large glass containers protected by the wooden outer structure. The Powside catalogue has a similar wagon from Hunt's Oldbury works. This is # 0122.

Edited September 1, 2022 by doilum
Additional information

[sir douglas]

Hesperus: though i cant make out what it says, it is definitely 6 letters

 

Doilum: the drawing has full interior showing the layers of planking, no glass, there were other acid tanks for other owners which were open top with 6 big glass jars sat in straw packing, which i also have a drawing for in one of the Hudson books

[doilum]

11 minutes ago, sir douglas said:

Hesperus: though i cant make out what it says, it is definitely 6 letters

 

Doilum: the drawing has full interior showing the layers of planking, no glass, there were other acid tanks for other owners which were open top with 6 big glass jars sat in straw packing, which i also have a drawing for in one of the Hudson books

Thanks. that's where I saw it.

[sir douglas]

doing the white box was a nuisance, i have now found that my Tamiya flat white is no good at evenly covering a large area, so i had to go over with a light grey as a base before re doing the white

 

It looks nice now but now ive got to shade all of that and do the crimson lettering in the white box

[sir douglas]

usual works photo beofre weathering

[SR71]

On 26/08/2022 at 18:06, sir douglas said:

i forgot to mention what it is, it is a tank as you say and for Muriatic acid which is a thinned down hydrochloric still used today as a strong cleaner, the wagon built in 1907 for Hunt brothers of Castleford and registered to the NER.

 

The drawing also gives notes for the layers to insulate the inside of the tank

 

"Inside lining of 3/4" T&G* boards paraffin waxed"

"Second lining 1" layer of pitch and sand"

"Third c??ing** 3"T&G boards insulated from wagon body by  1/4" thick tarred felt"

 

*T&G most likely means tongue & groove

** i cant quite make out what this word is which looks like cabing or casing, it definitely isnt lining

If terminology then is the same as now for insulation it's likely to be **cladding with the l & I not picked up by the scan. For 6 letters I can only think of **coving.

 

Nice looking wagon you've made. 👍

[sir douglas]

didnt know about this vdeo of donny until ive just seen my dad watching it, i'm in there 3:12, Rob Pullham waving at 2:39 and Mark (shez) passes by at 3:10

 

what is most apparent though are the empty isles nearly all day, it must have been one of their lowest attended shows after the time Kettering got snowed on

[jdb82]

4 hours ago, sir douglas said:

what is most apparent though are the empty isles nearly all day, it must have been one of their lowest attended shows after the time Kettering got snowed on

 

Maybe it was just a quiet patch - there was a post on the Guild forum a few days ago as part of a discussion about visitor numbers across their various shows, and they reckoned that numbers for the Doncaster show were broadly equivalent to pre-Covid numbers. Same for Kettering, although it seems Guildex was a bit down from before - various factors at play there.

[Marshall5]

I was at Doncaster and it only thinned out after about 1.30.

Ray.

[doilum]

I cannot remember the exact number but it was in the region of 850. I was doing the meet and greet at the door and didn't get a chance to look round until well after lunch time. This was always primarily a trade show with a few layouts and the best judges of it's real success are the traders who will count their takings both on the day and in follow up sales.

The hobby is changing especially in the way that we buy O gauge products and it might be time to reconsider how it is presented and promoted.

[sir douglas]

only next week, i'll be helping Overlord

https://www.wakefieldrms.org/exhibition/

[sir douglas]

on a whim i got all the brake vans out to make to imagine a RCTS or SLS railtour on the layout but found something surprising i hadnt noticed before as theyve never all been together before, the LNWR is smaller than the others except of course the tiny NB (but not by much), i had always assumed that the LNW would be the largest but i'm sat here now staring at it and it looks weird that it isnt. its about the same height as the Rother Valley but a bit shorter

 

left to right; early NE, LNW (CRC), ficticous, Rother and NB

[CME and Bottlewasher]

19 hours ago, sir douglas said:

on a whim i got all the brake vans out to make to imagine a RCTS or SLS railtour on the layout but found something surprising i hadnt noticed before as theyve never all been together before, the LNWR is smaller than the others except of course the tiny NB (but not by much), i had always assumed that the LNW would be the largest but i'm sat here now staring at it and it looks weird that it isnt. its about the same height as the Rother Valley but a bit shorter

 

left to right; early NE, LNW (CRC), ficticous, Rother and NB

I like Brake Van railtours, I've been trying to build one in O for about twenty years! Yours look glorious btw!

[sir douglas]

thanks, though it doesnt look like a railtour without all the balconies being full of men in bowler hats and rain coats

[Ruston]

On 06/10/2022 at 16:52, sir douglas said:

on a whim i got all the brake vans out to make to imagine a RCTS or SLS railtour on the layout but found something surprising i hadnt noticed before as theyve never all been together before, the LNWR is smaller than the others except of course the tiny NB (but not by much), i had always assumed that the LNW would be the largest but i'm sat here now staring at it and it looks weird that it isnt. its about the same height as the Rother Valley but a bit shorter

 

left to right; early NE, LNW (CRC), ficticous, Rother and NB

Are you competing with Mr. 5050 to see who can build the most and varied brake vans? 😄

[sir douglas]

ive got the knotty to finish and that will do for a while

[sir douglas]

I didnt enter any competitions at the show this year but still ended up with a trophy, it was our "best in show by a club member" which everything in the show is automatically entered, which i won with ACPA 3 overtype, my narrow gauge manning wardle came second which i cant understand since there were other fantastic models such as Chris's class 69's which he now has a second beautifully finished in the BR blue and red like this. I also took the acid tank and ive been told that if it had been entered into the wagon catagory it would have won, but i wasnt bothered with the competition this year