allan downes Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 This will be the third On3 layout I have built but never on a door ! With only 6'6" x 2'9" to play with and with trestles and mine buildings seemingly being the standard requirements a door might just as well be a postage stamp so this is going to be all about hammering square pegs into round holes with an oblong hammer. So, since any kind of plan would just present another square peg I thought the best way to go about it was to build all the essentials first then juggle them about after and just hope for the best ! So first, I tackled the trestle bridge which stands at 3ft wide by 13" high and so far has swallowed up nigh on a hundred quids worth of American Bass Stripwood with more on order to finish it off so, here's how it was built and how far I've got with it. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 That is a very nice trestle, I just wish I had your patience! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 The sun was ablaze here in the North East this morning so I took some much clearer outside sunshine shots of the trestle bridge but I'm still waiting for timber to finish the cross bracing. Hope you like it and I'd like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy christmas and a double shot of Gaviscon at the end of it on me ! Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 What a superb model. you say it cost hundreds of pounds in basswood which is not cheap. I have a friend who has just completed a large Trestle Bridge and he used spruce instead of Basswood, still cost a lot but not as much as Basswood. He obtained his wood from a local Model Marine shop and found they did all the sizes he needed. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 First mine buildings underway showing the framework and boarding. The boarding is half mil x 5 mil mahogany strip dusted over with matt white then cut to length and glued to the framework with medium viscosity superglue. For high quality stripwood try www.alwayshobbies.com. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 First mine building complete and weathered. Next, surrounding shacks and offices - of sorts. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 This is the second mining complex finished but with these buildings who knows ? you can go on adding bits for ever. But be advised, one bundle of mahogany planking (10 5mm x 0.5mm x 1 meter lengths ) gets you nowhere! The third complex will be more complex still - when I've sketched out some sort of idea that is. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 very interesting, certainly a challenge, and is this going to be transportable. Having built a layout on a door many years ago (it gave rise to the online ard artist name I use). I had to give up as it ended up way too heavy to carry, and awkward as well. Might have helped if I had had someone to help me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hi Simon. I don't exhibit anymore, the old bones are well past their sell by date these days but it will be very managable all the same as the rock faces will be made out of tissue paper as per the sample below. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 But meanwhile, another mine building built over Christmas. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 American Narrow Gauge Water Tower. This was built around a cut down cardboard tube and clad with 0.5 x 5mm mahogany strips. The water spout, typical but somehow not looking quite right, was made up using a tapered paint brush handle but I'm going to have to rework it. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I actually think the spout is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted December 30, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2014 Hi Allan. After the shock of how good your models are, comes the shock of how quickly you build them! Those two latest structures would have taken me a year to build, even with all your experience I really don't know how you manage it. I like the cardboard tube and paintbrush handle on the water tower. There's nothing quite like looking around your house for "something that could be used for....". I remember looking at our guinea pigs once and thinking: Hmmm.... thatch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 A sunday job.Narrow gauge engine shed with outside workshop. I reckon it will take longer to detail out the workshop than it did to build it. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I actually think the spout is spot on. In that case then I'll leave it. Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Rock faces and scenery. The rock faces are made out of crumpled tissue paper then lightly sprayed up and under the creases with matt black - Granite would you say ? Cheers. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The question has to be asked, what do doors contain that is worth mining? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 The question has to be asked, what do doors contain that is worth mining? Composite doors: Cardboard so that we can make trees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Hi Allan, Sorry to be critical but I think the outlet pipe on your water tank is a bit heavy. I have looked at a number of photos of water tank prototypes and they do not appear to be as heavy in section as yours, not even those on the D&RGW Railroad. I believe I have drawings in some old Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazettes and will dig them out and copy them for you. Not a bad idea on how you constructed yours. Overall the layout is looking good. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi Allan, Sorry to be critical but I think the outlet pipe on your water tank is a bit heavy. I have looked at a number of photos of water tank prototypes and they do not appear to be as heavy in section as yours, not even those on the D&RGW Railroad. I believe I have drawings in some old Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazettes and will dig them out and copy them for you. Not a bad idea on how you constructed yours. Overall the layout is looking good. Loconuts Hi Loconuts. You're quite right, it is to heavy but I did mention elsewhere that I was going to re model it. However, any pictures you may find please post them. Many thanks. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi Allan. A quick question about the rocks. You use tissue paper which is pretty thin so how do you support it? Is it down to you treatment of it or do you use a backing of some sort? Regards Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXHALL Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi Loconuts.You're quite right, it is to heavy but I did mention elsewhere that I was going to re model it.However, any pictures you may find please post them.Many thanks.Cheers.Allan. This is superb modelling. Ref the spout, would drilling it out to make the spout hollow in appearance make it look lighter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hi Allan. A quick question about the rocks. You use tissue paper which is pretty thin so how do you support it? Is it down to you treatment of it or do you use a backing of some sort? Regards Bill Hi Bill, what yer doin' over here mate ! After it's been unraveled it's self supporting. Try screwing up a tissue into a tight ball then unravel it and you'll find that all you need to do is to glue just the top to a backing board and let the sheet drop where it can be pushed about to form rock ledges and overhangs crevices and such then when you're happy with it, just glue the bottom edge down to the baseboard - or just leave it to hang. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allan downes Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Durango-ish Coaling tower framework. Cheers. Allan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Allan Just managed to get into the loft today to put the decs away, brought the magazines down and started going through them for any water tower models. Looking at photos of water tanks and I think I have found the problem. The end of the spout should bend down with an elbow rather than a mitre joint. The spout end should also be angled so that it is horizontal with the loco filler when it is in the down position. I have a kit here for Baker Tower off the C&S and that has a cast spout in it, I will photograph it with a ruler along side to give an idea of the size and shape. Also I have a drawing of the Denver Coaling stage here which I can scan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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