iarnrod Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Can anyone give me a brief synopsis of what wagon types you could find operating on the WHL in the 1980's and 90's on freight and engineers trains? I am bases in Ireland and undecided on whether to model Cornish China Clay or the WHL, but deciding factor will be what freight operated on the WHL, and the availability of these wagon types as RTR. Any information appreciated. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Broadly speaking the WHL freight side consisted of following: Timber traffic in otas and I think occasional btas. Ota available rtr from bach and Hornby, bta as kit from cambrian Oil traffic to Oban mostly I think... TTAs as available from Bachmann China clay in pras which would have to be scratch built. Some vaa/vdas did find their way up WHL but not entirely sure what carrying. Bach do both. Alumina to fw smelter in PCAs types latterly but not sure if was case in 1980s. Think Hornby vee type PCAs and a PCAs similar to bachs metalair (diff under frame) were both used. Paper traffic from fw. Think this was in sheeted OBAs. Bach do model MoD supplies to glen Douglas which I think would have been in veas and poss Vdas. Former is parkside kit. Latter Bach. Not sure if any odas turned up on this traffic too (modified parkside pipe wagon with vea under frame). Aluminium outbound traffic from fw smelter in a few different wagon types including one recently released by cambrian whose code defeats me at this time...(bpa?) But also on kfas and possibly other types. Engineering wise... Think I've seen photos of dogfish and catfish types, salmon wagons, and grampus types. But would be surprised if sea lions and sea cows didn't make it up WHL too and prob mermaids too. In later times would expect clams and rudds too. WHL actually has great variation in freight for the rural railway it is (was) with nice mixed rakes rather than many block workings. I'm actually modelling the junction at Cowlairs so need to research my WHL freights better but have most of the above in my fleet. Someone on here will keep me right if any of above is incorrect. I may have missed some too! M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Not forgetting the short-term use of Interfrigo vans, which were hired in by BR for a fish contract from Mallaig (my memory says it was to Aberdeen, but I could be wrong). This was in about 1987 and got a mention in the railway enthusiast press at the time - I happened to see one of the trains when I was on holiday at Glenfinnan in the spring of that year. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2014 Don't forget that Queen Mary brake that was lurking in one of my shots at Crianlarich in 1983. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Try this thread for starters http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/29816-scottish-freight-train-consists-whlhml-1988-91/?hl=7y33&do=findComment&comment=314593 and http://tracksrevisited.smugmug.com/West-Highland-Memories/i-vkX3TQ8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airighdrishaig Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I recall being in Oban for a few days, I think in November 1982. I walked along Shore Street to see what was going on at the station and in the line nearest the road (ie the side of the station now disappeared) there was a four wheel wagon of unusual appearance. Unfortunately I had no camera, but I recall it was marked suggesting it had come from Ostend, presumably via train ferry. Unfortunately I have no idea what it was carrying to Oban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 I recall being in Oban for a few days, I think in November 1982. I walked along Shore Street to see what was going on at the station and in the line nearest the road (ie the side of the station now disappeared) there was a four wheel wagon of unusual appearance. Unfortunately I had no camera, but I recall it was marked suggesting it had come from Ostend, presumably via train ferry. Unfortunately I have no idea what it was carrying to Oban. What colour was it? If it was white, it would have been an Interfrigo wagon, probably returning to mainland Europe with Scottish sea-food of some sort. If it was brown, then it may have brought food for the fish farms in the region. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
airighdrishaig Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Pretty sure it wasn't white, may well have been brown. It's a bit earlier but in June 1974 I recall seeing a bogie flat wagon arrived at Oban with four new Vauxhall cars loaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This recently acquired slide will resolve the identity: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/16051938307/ Ernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This recently acquired slide might resolve the identity: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/16051938307/ Ernie Virtually 100% certain those are Italian ferry vans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 This recently acquired slide might resolve the identity: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/16051938307/ Ernie The distinctive continental vans with the door with the cross where Belgian http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/belgian4whvan/e1cb4a60c Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 ....a few excellent images for your West Highland topic here chaps http://ironroad.smugmug.com/BR-in-the-1980s-Colour/ Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 My Flickr Scottish collection features some 800 views of the West Highland & Callender & Oban lines in 6 albums. The link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/collections/72157626439675261/ should take you to the collection and then click on the relevant set. Most of the views were taken in the 1980's although there are earlier images from the 1930's to the 1970's. I have more images which will be uploaded as time permits. Ernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Look at this wee gem which has just appeared on the Inspection Saloon thread. It was posted as part of a discussion about whether or not Inspection Saloons were used as observation cars. http://youtu.be/9kvJGANJGvs Think it may go some way to answering the original query for this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Excellent Callum. Many thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emac Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The flicker West highland Railway Group may be of help to you https://www.flickr.com/groups/1667170@N22/pool/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaglab Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Dont forget the domestic coal traffic until 1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Did the paper traffic not get carried on KFAs covered with tarpaulin too? Or was that only later than the OP time period? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Did the paper traffic not get carried on KFAs covered with tarpaulin too? Or was that only later than the OP time period? I don't think the KFAs had been built before 1989. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 The OP did state 1980s - 1990s ... so I wasn't sure if they'd be interested in those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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