mcrook62 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hi All I am looking for a track plan that will fit in a space 3000mm long by 600mm wide with added fiddle yard must have a milk/creamery depot sidings and terminal station with run around track plus nomal things like goods road coal stage maybe cattle dock circa 1950's If anyone can point me in any direction that may lead to what I want I would be grateful as my eyes are going boss eyed from searching on the web. Regards mcrook62 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This is the one I'm building that has a lot of those features, plus two shunting puzzles! It's quite a bit smaller, as explained by my unbelievable introduction, but if you put back the track that was lost when the river bridge collapsed, and stretch it a bit, it might give you some ideas!http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/95749-ingletyme-a-very-puzzling-blt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Sounds like a job for CJ Freezerman! Seriously though, Mr Freezer produced at least one (probably several but I've got a reasonably clear mental picture of one in particular) plan in the late 60s which was pretty much tailor made for your space and traffic requirements and has interesting features like the dairy siding being accessed from the loop via crossovers across platform and bay roads. Sadly I'm currently out of reach of my RM collection and CJF planbooks and so this post is rather less helpful than it should be as I can't point to the exact location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hemyock. Theres a good selection of books on it. Iain Rice did a nice design based on it. Wikipedia has ISBN numbers in its further reading section http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culm_Valley_Light_Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigtech Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Don't know if this is any use, but my layout 'Sproston' is 6' 6" x 5' 1" BLT,and it has all the features you mentioned, it is set mid 50's to mid 60's. I have a blog on rmweb (here) if you wish to search for it. I think the booklet containing the previously mentioned plan by C.J.Freezer, is published as "The PSL Book of Model Railway Trackplans" - I did use to have a copy, think its about a fiver. Regards SIGTECH (Steve) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hemyock is one possibility. Wallingford is another. The CWS creamery at Wallingford is handy in that 4mm scale plans are available for it somewhere (one of the Wild Swan books I think). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Newcastle Emlyn in Wales is another possibility although the Creamery was located a short distance from the station and did not have its own sidings as far as I am aware. Torrington is another possibilty although again the actual creamery was located a short distance away and the tankers were loaded in a modified shed. This was a Terminus up until 1925. With a bit of historical jiggling, you could assume the extension to Halwill Junction never happened. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/t/torrington/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Carmarthen Town- there was a creamery adjacent to the Aberystwyth end of the station. There was a loco depot just beyond the opposite end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 True, there are plenty of good options in that part of the world but I think the OP wants a terminus rather than a through station. Hence why I was being a bit cagey about Torrington. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Way back in one of the Railway Modeller magazines was a LSWR branch plan of the month based on a collection of typical LSWR branch termini features. The influence of Swanage and Lyme Regis is evident. A diary was included. If this is of interest I'll find the issue. I believe in 4mm it was designed to be built into a corner location of about 9' x 5' but the plan would adapt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Aerial views of Newcastle Emlyn and Carmarthen here. You can see how far the creamery is from NE station. It was originally the workhouse.http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/asearch?search=newcastle%20emlyn They seem to have corrected the wording of the Carmarthen ones, but not the search location! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrook62 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hi that sounds good if you find the track plan, I will be grateful. Regards Michael M Way back in one of the Railway Modeller magazines was a LSWR branch plan of the month based on a collection of typical LSWR branch termini features. The influence of Swanage and Lyme Regis is evident. A diary was included. If this is of interest I'll find the issue. I believe in 4mm it was designed to be built into a corner location of about 9' x 5' but the plan would adapt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Aerial views of Newcastle Emlyn and Carmarthen here. You can see how far the creamery is from NE station. It was originally the workhouse. http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/asearch?search=newcastle%20emlyn They seem to have corrected the wording of the Carmarthen ones, but not the search location! That wasn't the Carmarthen one I was thinking of- there was one next to the bridge that took the Llanelli- Carmarthen road over the railway and the Towy, operated by Unigate, IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglian Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi that sounds good if you find the track plan, I will be grateful. Regards Michael M Michael, I don't have a scanner but the plan and a 3D impression of the layout can be found in the April 1979 Railway Modeller. The designer has been a bit ambitious with the track geometry and the area needed for the track formations so I think the layout would benefit from a bit of opening up since it was designed for a 8' space along the longest length. The all important dairy is present and I've always thought it made for an appealing compact layout. Perhaps you could get a back issue or may be some kind person here who has a copy and a scanner could do the honours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Lifton provides an opportunity for a simple scenic layout with the Ambrosia creamery nearby. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NWJ Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2015 Michael, I don't have a scanner but the plan and a 3D impression of the layout can be found in the April 1979 Railway Modeller. The designer has been a bit ambitious with the track geometry and the area needed for the track formations so I think the layout would benefit from a bit of opening up since it was designed for a 8' space along the longest length. The all important dairy is present and I've always thought it made for an appealing compact layout. Perhaps you could get a back issue or may be some kind person here who has a copy and a scanner could do the honours. There is a trackplan of Newcastle Emlyn available on the SRS website, http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwm/S2088.htm Have a look at this index http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwdiagrams.htm#XH for other plans that are available. They are signalbox diagrams, but give an idea of the layout at these places. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 There's a whole topic on Newcastle Emlyn here, but it's still some distance from the creamery! At least it makes building the model easier, as you don't have to include it! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/86196-newcastle-emlyn-back-to-the-timetable-for-now/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&D Man Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Perhaps this plan might be of use. It does contain many of the features you mentioned. The plan is by Alex Bowie which appeared in the now-defunct Model Railway News in March 1968. I hope you find it useful. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Slightly OT but this site has some nice picture showing Torrigton creamery in all its art deco glory. Alas it is due to be demolished and turned int flats. http://www.abandoned-britain.com/PP/torrington/1.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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