Great Western Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I speechless ! In less than 7 days !!!! You've annouced to the world a concept and reached the minimum order level! Okay whether the expressions will turn into actual orders is another matter, but I suspect a large number will. I really think this concept as in crowd funding could be the future of non mainstream models. With the greatest of respect to you guys, if two blokes with no? or very little knowledge of their field can launch to projects in less than 6 months to the point that they've commited to one and about to do so for a second, why aren't the big boys using this method ? Also when ar revolution getting a thread in the main products section of the forum ? That new company from ixon have got one?? Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 1, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hello all, Roundhouse: Yes, the walkways will be etched. We are also planning to differentiate between hatches and discharge chutes on the EWS and VTG ones, as there are visible differences, even in N. Great Western: Thanks for your kind words. I suppose Mike and I are in an "interim" position in that while it's true we have little knowledge of the retail business of model railways, we both have long associations with the NGS (in my case taking responsibility for the kit and RTR models for over a decade) so we do have some advantages and experience of project management, research and production. It's also useful having industry contacts who often prefer to keep a low profile but who can facilitate access to locations, drawings and so on. My own view is that for now there is no need to take this thread out of the Rapido section, as people know where to find it, and perhaps we will earn our "own" section when we actually have models (prototypes or production) to show. What do others think? cheers Ben A. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Pike Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi Ben, As suggested in earlier post's, have you given consideration to producing these wagons in OO, I for one would be very interested in a rake or two. Why not launch an expression of interest ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted April 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi Richard As Ben explained earlier, a 4mm version of the TEA is something we are considering for the future. We don't want to bite off more than we can chew at the moment, plus as Ben said while we are confident about our understanding of the 2mm market we are less confident about our understanding of the 4mm market! Cheers, Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) HI Guys, What will the process be for International orders? Thanks, John P Edited April 13, 2015 by jpendle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted April 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hi John All orders will be handled through our website. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Hello all, From information and data received since we announced this model I have been able to update our TEA route map. It now includes depot refuelling trains (comprising on occasions just a single tank) along with some services I'd previously missed (Colwick, Jarrow) and I have removed RAF Leuchars as it now seems that the only wagons used on these trains were the smaller 4-wheel TTAs. If there are any errors or omissions please advise and I'll update again! cheers Ben A. Edited April 16, 2015 by Ben A 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted April 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think that you have probably earned your own manufacturer listing on here. Makes it easier for people to find you. That idea of showing people a diagrammatic map for where these operate is a good one. If you are not that confident of dealing with the 4mm market, why not collaborate with a specialist in 4mm and share research/scanning. A 180 in N? PS RevolutioOO would be a silly name anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjamie Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 How about RevOOlution! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hi Joseph, Yes, RevolutioOO doesn't quite work, does it? Nor does this....! I think Mike and I are both agreed that we will request our own section once we have reached the point of having proper, solid models to show people! cheers Ben A. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 How about RevOOlution! RevolOOtion works better spoken. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I saw the multi colour tank service last night on Cardiff Pengram sidings, it appeared that there wasn't any order to the tank anymore and I only counted about 6 green ones, mostly blue. Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I saw the multi colour tank service last night on Cardiff Pengram sidings, it appeared that there wasn't any order to the tank anymore and I only counted about 6 green ones, mostly blue. The ratio in the whole Greenergy fleet is still one green to two blue, the order of tanks in the train would have started to be mixed up almost immediately, as soon as they started swapping tanks in and out for maintenance/inspections. Just digging through computer files, I've a tops report from 2007 covering these tanks (well, the ones around at that point anyhow!) - any interest in me doing some number crunching from it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2015 Hi Martyn, That's very kind - thanks. What does the data show? cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Sorry, got a bit distracted from this!Here's an initial comparison of the "21st century TEA" fleets in 2007 and 2015. The pink highlighted lines equate to ones that RevolutioN are listing for your interest. TEA numbercrunch.xlsx Edited April 28, 2015 by Glorious NSE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 And some consists from the 2007 data, I've only picked consists which included wagons being proposed by RevolutioN this time to try and keep it on thread. It includes at least one consist from all four of the originating points for the modelled batch back in 2007. Where a tank in the consist is a 21st Century style one it's coloured in using it's approximate livery colours. If it's one of the types RevolutioN are producing in this batch it's also in bold. Tanks of older TEA or TDA builds are white and italics. Lists are sorted in wagon number order, not the wagons position in the train, if you model one of these you'll need to mix em up to taste. You'll need Excel or a similar viewer to view the file. PM me for suggestions if you have a problem. ***BIG CAVEAT*** You should probably treat these as indicative only, these were created by sorting the list of all domestic registered tanks and pulling out blocks which related to a "recent" train ID - some terminated trains *may* have had wagons removed, and if any of the trains mentioned were using RIV registered tanks (like the Tiphook TIA pictured up thread) back in 2007 then those were not part of the data i'd saved so won't appear.TEA consists.xlsx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 29, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Martyn, Many thanks for uploading that information. Both sets of data are very useful, but the consists in particular will be something I hope we can use to help our supporters build up prototypical rakes and, for those who don't have the space for the full 30-odd wagons, at least the proportions can be accurate within the rakes they can operate. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Any news when the invites to place orders will be released guys ? Also the cost per unit, and the cost per triple pack, I assume/hope the triple pack will be a little cheaper than separate units. Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 30, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hello GW, These models will be priced with minimal profit, since they're crowd funded, so the only area where there might be the potential for a reduced price is in the packaging. Otherwise I suspect the triples will just be the price of three singles, though of course they'll have different running numbers and, in the case of the Greenergy tanks, not be available singly. Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Western Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I've noticed the Greenenergy rakes run at around 17 vehicles, I reckon 15 would look okay. Did you finalise the weathering option or are you going down the as delivered condition, again as the aforementioned vehicles seem to be pretty tidy even now, with only the usual bogie dirt as you would expect. Thanks Great Western Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The entire 88115 to 88137 batch have apparently moved empty from Robeston to Grangemouth today (with class 60 haulage no less!) which might well spell the end for the old BP fleet up there, but extends the reach of the modelled batch again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 12, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2015 Hello Martyn, Thanks for that. In case anyone is wondering, the wagons moved to Scotland are the ones in Murco red livery with the blue VTG logo on the side; these are the ones we are doing, as opposed to the former Petroplus wagons with the different bogies and the small batch of Arbel-built wagons which are significantly different in shape and details. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrysoham Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) What made me express my interest was seeing two of these tankers pulled by a 66 entering Ely station from the Soham branch last Tuesday. Just right for something different on my layout Neely. Edited June 13, 2015 by terrysoham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 13, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi Terry, I am reasonably sure the train you've photographed is the recently introduced Ipswich Freightliner depot refuelling train. It runs from Lindsey refinery on Humberside via Peterborough and Ely with, I understand, one, two or three tankers depending on how much fuel is needed. I sometimes go and photograph trains at Whittlesey and I am hoping I might catch this one myself. In your photo are both the tankers the green ex-Freightliner ones? I've seen them mixed in with blue and grey VTG and DBS tanks on other trains, but it looks like they've set a few aside for this flow. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Modeller Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Great project! Before I express an interest, I would appreciate some idea of how long a train modern N gauge locos can haul. It is one thing to buy a prototypical length train, but whether model locos could actually haul it is another matter. Never having run really long trains in N scale, I would be interested to get an idea of how many wagons a Farish Class 66 or Class 60 might actually haul, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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