peter220950 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Ernie, I have LSWR Carriages vol 1 1838 - 1900 and LSWR Carriages in the 20th Century by G R Weddell. They both have a lot of drawings in 4mm of 4 wheel, 6 wheel, and bogie stock, but as I know next to s*d all about LSWR coaches would need you to be a bit more specific, there are certainly eliptical roof stock drawings in there. If you have specific coaches in mind let me have numbers, or specific types, and I can check it out, otherwise if it's more generic let me know lengths and types you are looking for. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 We will be launching some 28ft LSWR coaches at Telford this year 4 wheel all 3rd, 4 wheel brake 3rd, 4 wheel all 1st and 6 wheel Comp. If these are a success I have already drawn up the 6 wheel saloon and the 4 wheel brake end with birdcage. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Roxey do an LSWR Dwg 606 48' brake third. As used by the KESR until 1948. Nearly £150. Any thoughts?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 I've been toying with various layout ideas. One requirement is a mini layout of some kind. In the meantime I need a test track so after a brain wave, got a couple of Tim Horn Lite Boards from the garage and laid a set of points to see what would fit in 64" x 10"..... It might add another board to make it 96", enough to be able to do some meaningful shunts. On the subject of shunting I was looking at the various couplings. I have a few Dapol wagons and the link nearest the hook seems to bind when raised to the horizontal. Taking one apart I discovered that the drawhook is metal and a nice shape. Unfortunately the width of the hook is the cause of the bind. I cheated and thinned the hook a little and the links now fall nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted December 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2015 You can do a lot with 96", my current microlayout is just 72'' with 1 point & sector table Have fun Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Best wishes for 2016. Let's hope everybody is pleased with what Santa delivered.... Over the holiday I've been braving the cold to continue the project of rationalising the workshop. I've decided to embrace the traditional O gauge approach to build a test track so I can run things. Using some 1950's building methods; nothing high tech, just what's available and without additional purchases. Some ebay pointwork in Copperclad will be used. Generic track plan... 5 sets of points should produce a small goods yard, lets see how things pan out.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 I did spend a bit of time yesterday with a little progress. I had wondered how to create the area for some track and at the same time find some sorting space for the multitude of bits and pieces to get sorted. I have some Ikea Ivar shelving already fully occupied (and secured to the walls). I also have a load of brackets for that twin slotted shelving somewhere... So a quick trip to 'Myhills' in Watton for a few lengths of support. This was screwed to the Ivar uprights... The using a level the adjacent support was screwed in place. I know, the use of a level was quite frightening, how I was able to find it was amazing... Here a test piece in place.. Seriously, this type of shelving allows quick erection and removal, plus at the same time it's fairly robust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I like a quick erection........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 I like a quick erection........ So do I, but it can be inappropriate at times, plus embarassing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I've been sketching out small layouts of various configurations, I tend to come back to a few old favorites. In most cases they need to have some prototypical realism i.e. nothing that looks too toy like. At the same time it needed to be simple so it could actually get off the ground. I struggled to create a suitable yard arrangement with the points available. The other recent factor was noted during a bit of paper train spotting (looking at the things in the background of pictures in magazines or books), mainly the large number of freight vehicles seen in stations. I am now leaning towards a small terminus station......... See 'Fag Packet' track plan: First let's look at the station throat. I arranged three turnouts in the selected arrangment.. This is looking from the run round towards the single line. A right hand turnout just lead to a 'run off', no buffer stops or sand drag, just a couple of sleepers over the end of the line. Another view looks towards the station , with the connection to the goods siding on the right. These three turnouts are built on PCB with pivoting switch rails, these are soldered at each end, with the pivot point being in the middle of the moving sleeper at the heel end of the points. I have seen a similar arrangement in OO points, where large gaps between the switch and stock rails made it a bit toy like, with these ones the gap is minimal and the actual degree of movement in the moving sleeper is minimal. See the two positions below: I'm allowing 4 x 2' x 4' boards plus a fiddle yard. You just been to guess the station now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 On the "run-off" points you could actually run a siding and have a locomotive shed and servicing facilities. The shed can also act as a scenic break for the exit. Alternatively, it could be a goods siding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 In reality I don't think anything ever polished the rails. But it might turn into a siding for MOD traffic or something. Guessed the prototype yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 After 3 days in Dublin (no train spotting :-( ) a bit of modelling time. I've made the decision to just do it, not too much thinking etc. So into the garage this afternoon and get my ebay points laid. I knew that there were some minor gauging issues, so after trimming the rails to allow the first 2 points to mate up as a crossover I noted a gauge difference. I'll just remove the end timber from each set of points and join the rails with half length peco fishplates. If it's good enough for the finescale boys (the 31.5mm to 32mm transition) it's good enough for me. In reality there are rules regarding tightening of gauge. If the reduction is to severe it can cause the wheel to lift, I can quote one instance where derailment occurred through this cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 The end sleepers have been removed and another half fishplate added, looks OK I must remember it's only a test track and not get too bogged down with detail and trivia. I did a trial fit to some peco set track, just need to add a little additional packing under the turnouts to height match them to the plain track. Next step is to add wiring, the PCB sleepers on the ebay turnounts make it easy as I can solder wires to the sleepers Then some test running under power....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 A recent purchase of one of the OPC Southern Wagons books showed a wooden framed Single Bolster that could be bashed from a pair of Skytrex Minerals The biggest problem is the wheels, not round.... I used a set from a Parkside-Dundas kit as they were handy. Drilled from outside to allow the brass bearings to fit. What's nice is how tactile the whole thing is. If the axle isn't square, the hole can be filed and the bearing re-set. With extra lead weight, rolls really nicely.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 RM Web is very inspirational. Had a spurt today to re-arrange shelves to create space for an O gauge test track. Just laid some track down to get a feel for the space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ernie, Not sure which wagon it is in the post before last, but, just looked at it again, and there's something that jars - it's the glossy reflections off the plastic. Could you perhaps give it a touch of matt varnish? I think it would make it rather more realistic, even if you don't subsequently weather it. Of course, you are also welcome to say "thanks Simon, but no thanks..." . Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I like a quick erection........ RM Web is very inspirational. Had a spurt today.... wrong Forum..?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ernie, Not sure which wagon it is in the post before last, but, just looked at it again, and there's something that jars - it's the glossy reflections off the plastic. Could you perhaps give it a touch of matt varnish? I think it would make it rather more realistic, even if you don't subsequently weather it. Of course, you are also welcome to say "thanks Simon, but no thanks..." . Best Simon It's a Skytrex chassis that will get weathered to represent a vehicle in the twilight of its working life.... wrong Forum..?? Luckily I don't have that problem...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 QUESTION - I have some Peco points with the variable check rails (on adjusting screws). They have been set to the widest setting, what is suggested for finer wheels? Hoping someone has experienced this and can share, Thanks, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Ernie there are three approaches that I can offer. the first is to tighen the checkrails until something falls off, and then open them out a bit. Pragmatic, quick, simple, and not hugely confidence inspiring. the second is the Guild check rail maximum for 0F, measured over outer faces of the check rail and the frog cheek rails, which is maximum of 28.5 mm the third is to use the Guild check gauge, which is the distance from the crossing vee to the inside of the check rail and this should be at least 30.25 mm. In an ideal world, all three will conspire to give a window into which you can adjust your checkrails. Chances are that "a little tighter than they should be" will be ok. good luck Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Over the last 2 days the painting of the boards has started. The underside is whatever gloss I can find. Almost colour coded.... The back, sides and end are matt black. I am using laminate floor underlay as the track base. To allow track layouts to be checked out a few scrap pieces have been laid out on the supports. It wont be this wide, 250mm in reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Track base cut to width to allow test fitting of the track, the laminate floor underlay used is very easy to cut. Just a couple of passes with a Stanley knife. The 2 left hand Peco points were trimmed to allow a bare 42mm (6 feet) between the 2 tracks. As well as closing the tracks up, it gets the crossover within the bounds of the middle board. View from the other direction showing the lead into what will be a short siding. 32655 shunts trucks into the short kick back siding. A 'sows ear' ebay purchase that should make a cotton if not silk purse of a wagon. The kick back siding from the front. End view showing an extension is possible, just need to set the layout forward a bit, or move the light switch.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Good morning. Has anyone found a suitable solvent that will work on the plastic used on Skytrex O gauge Mineral wagons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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