MikeOxon Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Strange, when I saw it back in the '80s it looked like this.. How long before these images appear in someone's book? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2014 What about a Bo-Bo-Bo articulated version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2014 What about a Bo-Bo-Bo articulated version. Eurotunnel loco, or the New Zealand electrics which use US Diesels as dead weights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 could this be one the longest running threads, its now been going for 3 years, or are there any older on-going threads?, or should this be a topic for its own thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just before I walk the dogs, I've been reading George R.R Martins 'Game of Thrones' series, you may be familiar with the current HBO tv series, basically its like Lord of the Rings, only longer and more beheadings. Theres certainly a lot of scope for the Railway modeller with G.O.T, for one thing it would be a lot easier to reinforce the Wall if there was a line to Winterfell. Another idea I've had is how the Railways in the USA would have fared in the film Red Dawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Just before I walk the dogs, I've been reading George R.R Martins 'Game of Thrones' series, you may be familiar with the current HBO tv series, basically its like Lord of the Rings, only longer and more beheadings. Theres certainly a lot of scope for the Railway modeller with G.O.T, for one thing it would be a lot easier to reinforce the Wall if there was a line to Winterfell. Another idea I've had is how the Railways in the USA would have fared in the film Red Dawn. There was a LOTR-themed layout featured in RM in 1978-79 IRRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astockfan101 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Okay how about this then. A small class 68 about the same size as a class 20 anyone want to photoshop a 68 and do that to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intercity 125 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I noticed someone made a Co-Co class 81? That was proposed for the Eurotunnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Okay how about this then. A small class 68 about the same size as a class 20 anyone want to photoshop a 68 and do that to it? Someone once made a 'double 20' using two Lima class 20 bodies to make a centre cab Co-Co, IIRC it was on a modified Deltic chassis.. Edited April 27, 2014 by PhilJ W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) At the back of 'Armstrong Whitworth A Pioneer of World Diesel Traction' by Brian Webb there is a list of some of the design proposals that were never built. Among these is LD556 2x 6BXD 0-4-0+0-4-0 DE locomotive for the Festiniog Railway dated 3rd Nov. 1932. No-one seems to have the drawing so I've created my own, using a combination of parts of locomotives and railcars they actually did build, fitted within the very restricted FR loading gauge (I'm assuming they wouldn't have built something that could only be used on part of the line): Basically the bonnet is from DT44, the frames and cab modified from DT61 (outside frames so as to accommodate the traction motor between them) and traction motor, drive and wheelbase as per DT34 (also same wheelbase as FR small 'England', 'James Spooner' & original 'Taliesin'). The 6BXD was rated at 140 hp, so potentially this could have been a 280 hp unit. I'd estimate the weight at around 30 tons, 7.5 tons per axle. The number 9 was vacant in the 1930s. Edited July 1, 2017 by BernardTPM 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOxon Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Once 'Novelty' had won the Rainhill trials, with its impressive dashes of speed that intoxicated the watching crowd, a network of high-speed railcars soon spread to cover the whole country. The forced draft system of combustion proved very controllable, especially when the original bellows system was replaced by powerful fans, initially steam-powered and then by electricity, in accordance with the far-sighted outlook of the inventors. The high efficiency of this system allowed rapid steam-raising from a relatively small horizontal boiler, mounted under the floor of the passenger coach. In addition, the fans could also be used to re-condense the exhaust steam, so further increasing efficiency and allowing long range,high-speed transport, without the need to carry a huge quantity (and weight) of water. The illustration below shows a typical rail-car, with a grille covering the fans at the front and condenser panels along the sides of the vehicle, below the coach floor. Two slanting exhaust stacks,placed either side of the vehicle remove waste products of combustion and any residual steam from the condensers. The horizontal engine, with cylinders to the sides of the boiler, drive the power bogies through Cardan shafts. Novelty Class Rail-car 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 ... The high efficiency of this system allowed rapid steam-raising from a relatively small horizontal boiler, mounted under the floor of the passenger coach... The fireman? Specially bred from narrow seam mining specialists to an average height of 6 hands at the shoulder for this specialised underfloor work, they would pick up coal supplies from the special pits provided between the rails at each station stop. This eliminated the need for any large bunker on board, contributing much to the sleek external design. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOxon Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 The fireman? Specially bred from narrow seam mining specialists to an average height of 6 hands at the shoulder for this specialised underfloor work, they would pick up coal supplies from the special pits provided between the rails at each station stop. This eliminated the need for any large bunker on board, contributing much to the sleek external design. You will recall that 'Novelty' had a vertical section to the boiler, through which fuel was dropped to the grate below. The fuel bunkers are in the roof, loaded from overhead gantries. A simple gravity-feed automatic stoker dispenses with the need for a 'fireman'. The driver controls output by regulating both air-blast and fuel feed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You will recall that 'Novelty' had a vertical section to the boiler, through which fuel was dropped to the grate below. The fuel bunkers are in the roof, loaded from overhead gantries. A simple gravity-feed automatic stoker dispenses with the need for a 'fireman'. The driver controls output by regulating both air-blast and fuel feed. Oil-fired? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOxon Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Oil-fired? Carry on like this and someone will suggest a diesel engine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2014 that would never work.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Carry on like this and someone will suggest a diesel engine After further thought, the condensors and fans naturally lead on to the early substitution of a steam turbine for the reciprocating engine as a natural development of the type. We could have had a 'Flying Kottbullar' before WWI... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 After further thought, the condensors and fans naturally lead on to the early substitution of a steam turbine for the reciprocating engine as a natural development of the type. We could have had a 'Flying Kottbullar' before WWI... And it would have been assembled from flat pack parts, with the crucial piece missing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvian Tennant Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Not necessarily imaginary in the truest sense of the word. Another modeller on here is making an BR Blue 9F. Oddly enough I was thinking up a layout along a similar theme and I have mocked up a possible 8F which I hope to be building sometime soon. I've added some "mod-cons" such as westy-house pumps and air tanks, headlights, a giesl ejector, mini-snowploughs, modified cab and tender to be enclosed and roller bearings etc etc. I've done two post TOP liveries inc a mid 80's full yellow cab which I prefer tbh. Edited August 29, 2014 by Sylvian Tennant 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 That, is brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvian Tennant Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) The original drawing was found on a net rummage ages ago so I don't claim full responsibility on that, but the adds and livery were by my good self cheers anyway Edited August 26, 2014 by Sylvian Tennant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Here's a little 'big' engine I concocted a few years back - a Baltic tank version of the NBL Pacific for the Darjeeling Himalaya Railway in 'original' NBR livery for the Hebridian Light Railway: and how it might have appeared many years later in lined BR blue, like the Rheidol tanks: Edited July 1, 2017 by BernardTPM 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2014 I've added some "mod-cons" such as westy-house pumps and air tanks, headlights, a giesl ejector, mini-snowploughs, modified cab and tender to be enclosed and roller bearings etc etc. I've done two post TOP liveries inc a mid 80's full yellow cab which I prefer tbh. Nice - I like the yellow cab too. However, if we're keeping steamers into the 80s, they should be red, at least metaphorically. Drill some holes in the firebox and give it GPCS and a mechanical stoker. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvian Tennant Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) I'm totally there Flying Pig (perhaps apart form the red ). Can anyone point to some pictures of GPCS as to what they looked like in real life? Love the BR blue Baltic btw This chaps here has done a fine job too http://simonlmoore.deviantart.com/art/BR-Standard-Class-10F-434139538 Edited August 26, 2014 by Sylvian Tennant 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 *Cough cough* http://www.martynbane.co.uk/modernsteam/ldp/austerity/portaausterity.htm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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