Bristol_Rich Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I "think" these may have been mentioned in the past however I just thought I'd reiterate... Rivet Transfers For those of us who enjoy modifying/ improving/ scratchbuild and "wonder what to do about the rivets" as the thought of punching thousands of rivets only to find that 20 are usable turns you off at the thought... I'm currently undertaking a bit of scratch building and thought I'd give Archer transfers a shot. These are effectively accurate resin dots on clear transfer paper which you cut and position just as you would a water slide transfer. The link above is the example I used and would be fine for 4mm/7mm however other examples are available. Although I could only find sources for the transfers in the States, they accept Paypal so payment via UK debit card is possible, if you don't have a cc card.. Ordered Monday 2 Nov arrived from the states on Friday 6th Nov, no customs as small orders are sent in a standard envelope. Well worth a shot if your wondering about your rivets! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Another thumbs-up to Archer from me - excellent and quick service. I haven't got round to using mine yet, but I'm sure they'll be good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 From my experiences, you WILL need some sort of Decal Solution such as Microsol or Set as on their own they are a bit "temperamental"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 8, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2009 I "think" these may have been mentioned in the past however I just thought I'd reiterate... Rivet Transfers For those of us who enjoy modifying/ improving/ scratchbuild and "wonder what to do about the rivets" as the thought of punching thousands of rivets only to find that 20 are usable turns you off at the thought... I'm currently undertaking a bit of scratch building and thought I'd give Archer transfers a shot. These are effectively accurate resin dots on clear transfer paper which you cut and position just as you would a water slide transfer. The link above is the example I used and would be fine for 4mm/7mm however other examples are available. Although I could only find sources for the transfers in the States, they accept Paypal so payment via UK debit card is possible, if you don't have a cc card.. Ordered Monday 2 Nov arrived from the states on Friday 6th Nov, no customs as small orders are sent in a standard envelope. Well worth a shot if your wondering about your rivets! Yes,I will be using these on my bridge when I get around to it.Can we have a photo of them in use please Rich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 I found they behaved when I used Klear when positioning them. There is a mild sense of rip-off when they arrive in the post because they aren't cheap but when you start using them they are worth their weight. I've smothered a few things in them now and consider myself a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 Yes,I will be using these on my bridge when I get around to it.Can we have a photo of them in use please Rich. I've not yet got a pic as a finished article, however the attached pic should illustrate their use. They are the small black dots.... There is a mild sense of rip-off when they arrive in the post because they aren't cheap but when you start using them they are worth their weight. I'd agree looking at them you think..."hmm just a load of black dots" but as you run your finger over them you appreciate the texture. Its much like the feeling of braille. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Here is where I used them. A mixture of whole runs of rivets straight off the sheet and individually added ones. Not got to painting the model yet even though it looks quite good like this, i.e. I have yet to discover if they start to disappear with paint on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 Thats where I'd seen them...this image was posted on Olde RMWeb? Hope you counted them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 It was and I didn't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 The phrase I'd use for these rivets is mutts dangly bits.......... They are a jot to use and make a heck of a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 There is a point to bear in mind with these transfer rivets, the size is small, and heavy undercoating and painting will tend to cover them. This applies less with airbrushing, so keep in mind the coats of paint should be light, no more than you would do if painting correctly, but we do sometimes over do the paint thickness, and details suffer a bit. I have used these quite often, they work well, but as others say use microsol or equivalent to get them to settle. One point not often made is that refinishing is impossible, stripping paint will remove all and it's back to square one. Stephen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Nolton Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I have used these transfers recently on a couple of wagons, and can confirm they are easy to use, but are delicate and require careful handling once applied. They react well to setting solutions and the film is invisible under a coat of paint. The well-known (in military modelling circles) firm of Historex Agents in Dover carry at least some of the range, at about ??11.50 a sheet they are not cheap, but well worth the money. Email: sales@historex-agents.co.uk Telephone Number: 01304 206720 Fax Number: 01304 204528 Address: Wellington House 157 Snargate Street Dover, Kent CT17 9BZ Pic of a rectangular tank wagon attached, built recently for "Burntisland 1883" Ray Nolton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 They are a lot cheaper direct from Archers I got mine in about 5 days Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Hello all, I'm doing a turntable in O gauge that will have a lot of rivets on it. So I do have a couple of questions about these transfer rivets. 1] can you apply them directly to bare metal, or do you have to have a primer on it first? 2] can you over paint them with an acid based primer if they are on the base metal? Thanks for any help, OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yes you can and I find (mainly on plastic) that primer after transfers is the best way to go. It hides the carrier film better. Priming after putting them on is recommended as it helps stop them falling off. Acid based primer - well, they're resin. I'd test that one first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 When Archers say O gauge that will be American O gauge at 1:48? am I correct on that one? When I order them I'm likely to get about $50 worth so I want to get it right. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted August 8, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2012 DCC Supplies stock them in the UK here's a shot of my O gauge sentinel after a rivetting few days with a sheet of O gauge "streetcar" rivets more in my blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hello all, well I ordered my Archer's rivets, about five days from the U.S.A. (some of the British suppliers should take note!). The sheets are not that big (the size is given on their site) but they look to have a lot on them. The order was over $50 so no P&P (some thing else for the British suppliers to think about?). I want to have a play with them but am undecided about before the primer or after it? The top coat will be cellulose paint, but there are some bits that I can try on, on the outside of the sheet. All will be shown in my build thread, in time. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted August 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ozzy, I put mine on over satin car paint, it's quite shiny for satin though. You don't have to worry about silvering as you will be overpainting them anyway You should be okay to put them straight onto the metal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ozzy, I put mine on over satin car paint, it's quite shiny for satin though. You don't have to worry about silvering as you will be overpainting them anyway You should be okay to put them straight onto the metal. The thing is I use an acid etch primer, I have done for all my work for a good number of years now, so that may attack the transfer film? OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted August 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2012 might do, have a test if it does, then primer, thin gloss coat (or satin in my case) apply rivets, then another coat or two over the top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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