6959 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looking for a copy of Keith Parkin's book today I found 6 copies on Amazon for 75 quid each so I did not buy. Likewise the set of CDs for 350 Pounds that cost 100 when released. Further searching turned up the following link to line drawings of coaches which some may find helpful. http://www.easybuildcoaches.co.uk/TOP/DRAWINGS.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) They look like the General Arrangement ones from the Board's Diagram Book as well as being from Parkin. I harvested a set of these from one of the BREL offices shortly before the reaper came knocking. They are a generally good guide, but beware of some basic discrepancies. Also, in my experience, they are not necessarily true to scale, but do convey layouts pretty well (they are GAs after all). There are others on here in a better position and with more thorough knowledge to clarify, Bob 65B for one? EDIT: PS - I guess I'm glad I grabbed my Parkin when I did at the published jacket price! Edited February 26, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 ... I'm glad I grabbed my Parkin when I did ... Full of it today, aintcha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) . Edited September 29, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 As Chard says' those drawings come from the original diagram books. For carriages at least, they're fairly accurate and the very same diagrams were used by Parkin - though his book contains all of them. Great for guides but not for accurately buillding rolling stock from. If there's any specific carriage you're after, I may well have already done the drawings for them - rather more accurately than the diagrams present! Tanya Jackson (the HMRS Transfer development manager and British Rail carriage steward) said only last week that there were still 30 copies left in stock of the 2006 HMRS/Pendragon publication (and it's supplement). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6959 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Share Posted March 17, 2012 Why not try HMRS direct?: http://www.hmrs.org....php?bookid=1030 £30 for the latest edition + supplement. Combined volume just arrived from HMRS. Excellent books. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 G’Day All, I’ve been looking at purchasing a copy of this book +/- supplement, however I’m little lost when it comes to the correct version/latest version. -1982 -1991 - advertised at revised -1999 reprint (presumable of the 1991 edition) -2006 edition - updated, (but not appendices?) -supplement would someone be able to help with which copy/copies I should be looking to purchase? I have browsed a few threads on here and they seem to suggest the 1991 + supplement? Thanks in advance cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1991 hardback plus supplement will probably cover most of the ground. I don't know what the 2006 edition was unless it was the supplement. The original 1982 book has some different photos, that are not in later editions. I see copies on secondhand book stalls at exhibitions quite often. Much more information has come to light since the book was written. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2020 In an ideal world you will need all three volumes, there is some information in the first hardback issue which isn't in the second as Robert has intimated. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2020 The supplement is still available from HMRS, £4 + p&p Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: The supplement is still available from HMRS, £4 + p&p Jonathan Yep. I got one early last year from HMRS with a lovely hand-written note in the end paper to boot. Proper old school. This was to supplement my copy of the last edition. Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arun Sharma Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Having spoken to Keith Parkin, he confirms that the books were always intended cover mainly loco hauled stock. Mk1 EMU stock such as AM9, 4-CEP/BEP/REP are not included though clearly many facets of their construction such as variety of roof vents etc., are common to MU and loco-hauled stock. However, if like me you were looking for details of the underframe boxes of AM9 Griddle Cars, then you will be disappointed. However as a designer of 0gauge rolling stock and locos, I believe there are no better guides available on the construction and modifications to Mk1 loco hauled stock than these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) a mk1 EMU book would be a volume in itself - AM2,4,5,7,8,9, CEP,BEP,BIG,CIG,VEP,EPB,HAP and Harris would have to cover AM10 & 312 as, despite appearances, they were based on the mk2 coach (to be fair he does mention them, briefly) Edited January 5, 2020 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2020 Southern region stock has been reasonably well covered but ER/GE, LMR and ScR stock has largely ignored. Which is a shame IMHO Griff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The title of the first edition back in 1982 made it clear that it was about loco-hauled stock, but subsequent publishers went for a snappier title. The first edition has some important photos not in later ones, including a good one of a maroon RKB with B5 bogies (W1500 if I recall correctly - book not currently to hand). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_Under Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Thanks you for all the replies. I' was interested in just the loco hauled stock, so the book sounds perfect. I'll keep my eye out for both the 1982 and 1991 version and see what comes up. I've ordered a HMRS supplement in the meantime. From the above discussion, it seems that the 'missing' parts refers to the MK1 based EMU stock? Are there any other things one should be wary/new information that isn't contained within either volume with regards MK1 loco hauled stock? Thanks once again James Perth, WA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 05/01/2020 at 00:05, keefer said: .............. Harris would have to cover AM10 & 312 as, despite appearances, they were based on the mk2 coach (to be fair he does mention them, briefly) Always thought it very odd that these were ( virtually ) overlooked as he gives reasonable details of the ( only ) other MkII multiple units : the NIR 'thumpers'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Just purchased Parkin's wonderful book used from Amazon. What was advertised was the 2006 edition. What arrived was the 1999 reprint of the first edition. On one level I am pleased as the firs edition copies available online are all £150+. However it would be good to know what additional info was in the 2006 edition that was not in the earlier one (and vice versa)? Edited January 4, 2021 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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