RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2015 Some photos from the Keighley and Worth Valley this afternoon. They were taken between 1968 and 1970 when there were some interesting liveries. m Mytholmes tunnel 41241 Oxenhope to Keighley July 68 J1369.jpg Mytholmes tunnel 41241 Oxenhope to Keighley July 68 J1369 s Haworth ex L&Y 957 painted for Railway Children Film Sept 70 J2340.jpg Haworth ex L&Y 957 painted for Railway Children Film Sept 70 J2340 s Haworth No 63 Oxenhope to Keighley Sept 69 C119.jpg Haworth No 63 Oxenhope to Keighley Sept 69 C119 s Haworth Royal Scot 46115 Scots Guardsman July 68 J1351.jpg Haworth Royal Scot 46115 Scots Guardsman July 68 J1351 s Haworth W&M railbuses M79964 and 79962 July 68 J1362.jpg Haworth W&M railbuses M79964 and 79962 July 68 J1362 s Haworth yard with railbuses Sept 70 C351.jpg Haworth yard with railbuses Sept 70 C351 David That's a strange coincidence - I'm watching 'The Railway Children' (1970) on ITV3 at the moment! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Once again a cracking set of photos Dave. I especially liked the shot, Langley Mill Class 37 down empties June 69 J1756. I have a bit of a soft spot for Green FYE 37's. I don't know why. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2015 Hi, Dave. Great to see the photo's of the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway - bright liveries excepted. The Midland line photo's are terrific and show a good variety of traction including a begrimed 8F 48126 in photo' J07. Good to see the semaphore signalling at Pye Bridge as well, including a bracket signal with three distants on it. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I think that in the early days the preserved railways saw a need to be clearly different from BR - after all they were using locos and stock which had been in normal use on BR until only a year or two earlier. I'm also not sure if BR required some sort of livery change as a condition of sale in those days. Perhaps someone else may know. David David As a purist I have always disliked these fake liveries that the conservation railways used at the time. So, I was interested to read either on this, or another, website recently that BR required that (working) locomotives (and possibly other stock) could not be in BR liveries. This meant there was a problem when it came to the newer locos - such as Ivatts, Standards and the Diesels. I've no idea when this request was rescinded. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Yes. Wasn't that one of the various demands of Alan Pegler in 1963? As well as having to resign from the BRB if he dared purchase 60103, he would not be allowed to run it on BR if it remained in its current livery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted July 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2015 Some photos from the Keighley and Worth Valley this afternoon. They were taken between 1968 and 1970 when there were some interesting liveries. m Mytholmes tunnel 41241 Oxenhope to Keighley July 68 J1369.jpg Mytholmes tunnel 41241 Oxenhope to Keighley July 68 J1369 s Haworth ex L&Y 957 painted for Railway Children Film Sept 70 J2340.jpg Haworth ex L&Y 957 painted for Railway Children Film Sept 70 J2340 s Haworth No 63 Oxenhope to Keighley Sept 69 C119.jpg Haworth No 63 Oxenhope to Keighley Sept 69 C119 s Haworth Royal Scot 46115 Scots Guardsman July 68 J1351.jpg Haworth Royal Scot 46115 Scots Guardsman July 68 J1351 s Haworth W&M railbuses M79964 and 79962 July 68 J1362.jpg Haworth W&M railbuses M79964 and 79962 July 68 J1362 s Haworth yard with railbuses Sept 70 C351.jpg Haworth yard with railbuses Sept 70 C351 David Nice Triumph Vitesse Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2015 David As a purist I have always disliked these fake liveries that the conservation railways used at the time. So, I was interested to read either on this, or another, website recently that BR required that (working) locomotives (and possibly other stock) could not be in BR liveries. This meant there was a problem when it came to the newer locos - such as Ivatts, Standards and the Diesels. I've no idea when this request was rescinded. Paul Bartlett I'm not sure when this rule was recinded, as I'm sure the Q6 ran on the NYMR in BR black around 1970,although when they got the class 24 in 1976 it had to have the double arrows removed and for some reason the 24 part of the number. I wouldn't have minded some of the fictional liveries such as LMS on a 2mt tank,but red and CR blue on the lakeside 2.6.4 tank... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'm not sure when this rule was recinded, as I'm sure the Q6 ran on the NYMR in BR black around 1970,although when they got the class 24 in 1976 it had to have the double arrows removed and for some reason the 24 part of the number. I wouldn't have minded some of the fictional liveries such as LMS on a 2mt tank,but red and CR blue on the lakeside 2.6.4 tank... You're right. Through-out summer of 1969 the Q6 was re-painted into BR Black at Thornaby. It was re-liveried into NER black on the NYMR in August 1970. I've wondered whether the NCB imposed a similar restriction with the "NYMR" legend quickly replacing "NCB" on Lambton No.5 or it was in this case, just a matter of new management imposing their own identity? I certainly agree about the fictional liveries. I've never been a fan, but fully understood the financial reasoning behind wall papering a Black Five or having a loco painted in Hogwarts livery. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2015 Today's photos, once again somewhat earlier than usual. This time the photos are from Grantham in 1972 and 1974 when everything was painted blue. Most of the weather was not brilliant. Grantham Class 47 1503 up ex pass Leeds to Kings X May 72 C970 Grantham Class 55 9015 Tulyar up ex pass May 72 C972 Grantham Class 47 down ex pass Jan 74 C1464 Grantham Class 47 down freightliner Jan 74 C 1465 Grantham Class 55 down ex pass 27th July 74 C1691 David 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted July 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2015 I'm not sure when this rule was recinded, as I'm sure the Q6 ran on the NYMR in BR black around 1970,although when they got the class 24 in 1976 it had to have the double arrows removed and for some reason the 24 part of the number. I wouldn't have minded some of the fictional liveries such as LMS on a 2mt tank,but red and CR blue on the lakeside 2.6.4 tank... But wasn't part of the reason on the 24 that the loco had been sold for scrap and resale wasn't allowed? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 But wasn't part of the reason on the 24 that the loco had been sold for scrap and resale wasn't allowed? It was the same with the Q6. BR wavered the rule to allow the Q6 to be bought from Bolckows, and there is of course, the now well known tale of how 63395 never reached Bolckows at Blyth due to large amounts of Brown Ale being administered to the rostered crew. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2015 Hi, Dave. I really like the photo's of Grantham. They certainly show how much things had changed at Grantham from the years that the famous layout is based on - the '30's - and the '70's of your photo's. I especially like that last photo', C1691, of a class 55 on the 27th, July, 1974. A very classy view. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 7, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2015 A trip to Carlisle in 1987 this evening. Carlisle 31162 Glasgow to Euston diverted via S and C 21st April 87 C8354 Carlisle 47421 Carlisle to Middlesborough 21st April 87 C8356 This was at a time when there was a shortage of dmus. Carlisle 37014 empty oil from Dalston 1st Sept 87 C9104 Carlisle 26026 1st Sept 87 C9111 Carlisle 37118 down empty oil from Dalston 27 Oct 87 C9216 David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hi, Dave. Like the photo's of Carlisle. In the first two there can be seen two engines begrimed in brake dust. Then in photo' C9104, of 37014, on an empty oil train from Dalston on September 1st, 1987, you have got the 37 looking most imposing. In the final photo' it is clearly a very wet day! All the best, Market65. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) I never thought I'd actually get nostalgic about 'blue diesel days', but I am! I even enjoyed watching a Deltic singing through 36E this morning (however, it was ttGreen). They don't whistle or roar and I though throb was a bit vulgar! Great shots Dave. Carlisle was still a place to try to visit in the early 80s. Phil Edited July 7, 2015 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jonny777 Posted July 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2015 C9111 is a nostalgic photo, as 26026 is the only loco that I have driven - although it was at Thornton Junction at the time and there was a strike on, so nothing was moving. I only went to the foreman's office in order to ask what the number was, as the loco was parked behind the depot wall. And yet he asked an older driver if he would escort me around and as part of the tour he took me into the cab of 26026, started it up and then drove it up the yard, stopped and said would I like a go. Would I like a go??? Is the Pope Catholic?? So there I was, shunting the 26 along the track - an event never to be forgotten. Thankyou to everyone at Thornton Junction. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) C9111 is a nostalgic photo, as 26026 is the only loco that I have driven - although it was at Thornton Junction at the time and there was a strike on, so nothing was moving. I only went to the foreman's office in order to ask what the number was, as the loco was parked behind the depot wall. And yet he asked an older driver if he would escort me around and as part of the tour he took me into the cab of 26026, started it up and then drove it up the yard, stopped and said would I like a go. Would I like a go??? Is the Pope Catholic?? So there I was, shunting the 26 along the track - an event never to be forgotten. Thankyou to everyone at Thornton Junction. 100852.jpg Great stuff, wish i was around back then for the chance of things like that (was only born in sept 87)!keep the pics and snippets of info coming, one of the best topics and still going! cheers james Edited July 7, 2015 by jessy1692 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2015 A visit to Sowerby Bridge this evening, over several years. Sowerby Bridge LMS 8F 48111 goods Sept 67 J1146 Sowerby Bridge Class 101 Manchester Victoria to Leeds Oct 69 C149 Sowerby Bridge Class 110 arriving from west Oct 69 C150 Sowerby Bridge Station Building in the fog Oct 69 C152 Sowerby Bridge Class 158 Blackpool North to York 30th July 96 C21093 David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 By gum its misty up north ! Like the 110 arriving did they not demolish Sowerby Bridge station or am I mixing it up with another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hi, Dave. What a great selection of photo's of Sowerby Bridge. In C149, in October, 1969, in spite of the fog, it is possible to make out that the class 101 DMU has a class 110 TSL. The fog makes things quite eerie and ethereal back in 1969. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted July 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2015 C9111 is a nostalgic photo, as 26026 is the only loco that I have driven - although it was at Thornton Junction at the time and there was a strike on, so nothing was moving. I only went to the foreman's office in order to ask what the number was, as the loco was parked behind the depot wall. And yet he asked an older driver if he would escort me around and as part of the tour he took me into the cab of 26026, started it up and then drove it up the yard, stopped and said would I like a go. Would I like a go??? Is the Pope Catholic?? So there I was, shunting the 26 along the track - an event never to be forgotten. Thankyou to everyone at Thornton Junction. 100852.jpg Early - mid 80s, similar thing happened to myself. Fortress Toton was the target, we were on a tour of the east mids area and my mates dad said if you dont ask you dont get so off he went with two young teenagers in tow, the foreman couldnt have been much nicer, spare driver collared to give us a tour. After wandering round the shed and yard, we happened to ask if we could 'cab' the 56 we were next to (56060). Once in the cab, driver started it up which was ace but then delivered the ultimate question, "who wants to drive first?" You could have floored us with a feather, (as above, are bears catholic, does the pope defecate in the woods etc etc), my mate ended up driving out towards the exit signal and I drove her back towards the shed, a memory that will stay with me forever! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Excellent stuff, Banger Blue. I am glad that I was not the only one who was treated to such excitement by depot staff. It did make such a difference to the surly and downright rude attitude shown by some employees who knew exactly why we were there and had probably tried to do the same in steam days when they were young. I know this ought to be obvious, but what struck me about driving a diesel loco was how smooth the movement was from a standing start, as power was applied to the traction motors. All I had ever known was a car or van and those are quite jerky accelerations with gear changes. As you say, a memory never to be forgotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 9, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Today's photos are a little later than usual as I decided to have a look at the harbour this evening and found a sailing ship, Stavros S Niarchos. I didn't have a camera with me but here is are a couple of photos of her taken when she was in the harbour last week. By the way the two ship photos do have a railway in them if you know where to look. Stavros Niarchos at Blyth Stavros Niarchos and Arklow Manor at Blyth This morning I had a walk along the river while I was shopping and saw this: ASC_0060 River Blyth viaduct 66703 down Now for tonight's photos which were taken at Edinburgh Waverley and Princes Street Gardens in 1986 and 1987. Edinburgh Waverley 47709 The Lord Provost Glasgow to Edinburgh 12th April 86 C7413 Edinburgh Waverley 47209 light engine 12th April 86 C7434 Edinburgh Waverley 43118 Kings X to Aberdeen 18th Aug 87 C9057 Princes Street Gardens 26003 up light engine 12th April 86 C7426 Princes Street Gardens 101360 up, 120532 Edinburgh to Dundee 18th Aug 87 C9015 David Edited July 9, 2015 by DaveF 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2015 The one of 47709 is interesting as it shows the one retained rake of ex-push pull Mk 2s. IIRC it was used as a spare, often at peak time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Dave, what a great picture C9057 is, says it all to me about being a spotter, no better way to spend a few hours sitting against that post Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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