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England - Scotland A game of two halves, as someone apparently said... An under strength, misfiring Scotland team travelling to Twickenham to face an England team that were near full strength, playing pretty well, and possibly seeking revenge for the previous year (and the return of the Calcutta Cup). It had all the makings of one of those horrible mismatches that sometimes occur and lead to record point scores etc. After half an hour Scotland were dead and buried. And then it started to click... In the end, perhaps a draw was the right result :-) Although: We (Scotland) scored six tries at Twickenham and didn't win. We scored 38 points at Twickenham and didn't win. When was the last time England conceded 38 points at Twickenham (in the Six Nations)? Frustrating as we had the opportunities to win. A number of goal kicks were missed, any of which would have made the difference. A fascinating game to watch, at least after the first half hour, as most (all) of the tries were relatively quick, no slow grinds towards the line with a score after the 24th phase etc. A couple of interceptions, plenty of line breaks, etc. Suddenly the player with the ball is free and is racing for the line with most of the other 29 players in pursuit. They didn't always make it, but a good number of times they did. The half-time talk would have been interesting, although I'm wondering about the alleged 'disagreement' between Townsend and Finn Russell. Did Russell go against instructions and play how he wanted the game played in the second half? We may never know.

I would say that you should be able to comment on an event as soon as it has happened. If you don't want spoilers, and haven't yet seen the event, then watch that before you read the thread...

A number of Class 110 trailers were transferred to Scotland (Haymarket) around this time when Scotland was a destination for all sorts of DMU odds-and-ends, presumably due to late deliveries of Sprinters, or problems with those already delivered. I can remember being at Edinburgh Waverley with a school friend, who is also on RMWeb, and seeing a Class 47 hauling four or five Class 110 trailers through the station and heading towards HA.

I have been of the opinion that the C4 line-up was rather overstaffed. Susie Wolff and Eddie Jordan would have been the first two off the bus, had I been in charge :-) Not even sure what Steve Jones brings - I do think that Coulthard and Webber as a pair could run the show. I was OK with Karun doing the technical / strategic stuff. As for the Sky deal, yes Sky seem to intend showing the first few (three) races on Sky One as well, presumably as a teaser to try and persuade people to subscribe to the F1 channel. What struck me was that C4 are not allowed to do interviews with people in the press pen, and that the race footage can be no more than 50% of the shows airtime. So presumably the other half of the show will be showing interviews that Sky have done/shown, or talking heads.

With the Class 140 still in existence(?) and various Class 141 units still around, it would be nice to have an example each of Class 142, Class 143, and Class 144 preserved too. Could there be hybrid units created, e.g. 142 driving car / 144 trailer / 143 driving car, like the 1950s DMUs that they replaced? Was there any significant evolution between the classes or were they simply from different builders - I can spot the difference between the 142s and the others, but the 143s and 144s look the same, at least to this untrained eye.

I found picture C8726 (Page 612) of Hexham goods yard (shed) interesting. At first sight looks like a good portrait of the presumably disused goods shed but then I realised that there is a track next to the loading dock on the left of the picture, with what looks like a Grampus wagon parked near the buffer stop. Presumably that track, at least, was still connected even though the rails through the goods shed itself look like they are isolated.

The yard, presumably with materials for the railway, looks interesting and different. Even if only because it is surrounded by green fields, at least from what we can see here.

The vertical yellow behind the inner handrail looks unusual, at least to me. A one-off?

Or send a submarine (or two) and if someone says anything about a lack of presence: What do you mean we're not there? We've been there for weeks (months). Can't you see us ... ? :-)

Thinking back to BR days, the Mk3s were the latest and greatest (the Mk4s being a smaller and dedicated fleet), so weren't really available for conversions and modifications. Off the top of my head: Royal Train Mk3s came from various sources, I don't recall exactly what though. HST kitchen cars (TRUK, TRFK, 405nn) to loco hauled restaurant cars (RFM). HST restaurant / buffet cars being converted to different types of HST restaurant / buffet cars. Most of the 40Nnn number ranges were used for different types... The original HST (Cl 252) trailers became various other things, including production HST trailers and a couple of test coaches for the RTC. Loco hauled FOs to loco hauled restaurant / buffet cars, RFMs. Loco hauled restaurant / buffet cars (RFB) to loco hauled restaurant / buffet cars (RFM). The 6 FOs (11005-11010, 11022) used by ScotRail on the Edinburgh-Glasgow push-pulls became COs (11905-11910, 11922) at some point with half first and half second class seats and a partition in the middle of the coach. I suspect most of these, the RTC and Royal conversions aside, retained the overall external look and feel. Still surprised by the number of Mk3 sleepers built - although a few were cancelled, hence the gap in number range between the two types - and seemingly not possible / practical to convert the surplus examples of these to other types of stock.

With the Class 140 and 141 units long gone, is there any appreciable difference between ride qualities of the Class 142, 143, and 144 units or are they all as bad as each other because they are 2-axle rather than bogie vehicles? Is there any difference with ride quality in, for example, the centre car of the 144s that have them compared to an end (driving) car?

Music and the choice of is always a highly personal thing, so what works for you doesn't necessarily work for anyone else. I enjoyed Stuart Maconie on Radio 2 prior to Mark Radcliffe appearing, which might date me, whom I never really got on with. I also remember, from a similar time, a DJ called Richard Allinson who must have left a positive impression on me. At the moment I listen to the following Radio 2 shows each week: Johnnie Walker Rock Show (Johnnie Walker) (*) PIck of the Pops (Paul Gambacini) Sounds of the 60s (Tony Blackburn) Sounds of the 70s (Johnnie Walker) (*) Sounds of the 80s (Gary Davies) (*) JW is currently away, having had some heart work done at the beginning of the year. Tom Robinson is covering the 70s show and Huey Morgan the Rock Show. Admittedly the music is silo'd to some extent, although there is a mix of genres across the eras shows, and Pick of the Pops is whatever was in the Top 40 this week in whatever year. Johnnie Walker always seemed to supply some good information around the music being played, as does Gary Davies to some extent. Tony Blackburn is ...erm... well-known. Gambos talk between the tunes is somewhat limited, mainly by time, but again is someone that has been around and has lived through it.

Veering off-topic for this thread: That is a lot of rail off-cuts in the picture. Presumably has been some work done there recently. Surprised that they were chopped into short(ish) pieces but not collected during the possession.

Some Chinese made locomotives are running in Australia. In addition, a whole heap of rolling stock is too - not sure what, if any, new build wagons don't emanate from China these days.

Pleased to see that he still has a future in F1. But I do note from the article that Ferrari now have four drivers doing simulator work. Seems to make a mockery of the so-called "cost saving" measures, not that I am a fan of them.

Twenty five posts to a page - at least there was under the old format :-) Therefore, Page 603, somewhere between post numbers 15051 and 15075. The millionth post should be the last one on page 40000. A while yet...

With reference to picture J7094 on Page 602 (seem to have lost the post numbers with the new format), I wonder if the vertical posts on the end of the wagon originally extended below the buffer beam. Don't remember what their purpose was (narrow gauge buffers when on mixed gauge track?) but some old(er) coal wagons had that feature, the vertical posts being trimmed back later in life.

Sounds like a question for Randall Munroe.

Some Class 27s were overhauled at Swindon in the early-mid 1980s. I forget the reason why, perhaps Glasgow was fully booked. As I type this the thought "frost damage following a hard winter" came into my head so perhaps that was the cause.

Thank you for the various responses. No burning smell, I am pleased to report. A colleague who professes to know about cars offered to take a look yesterday. His thought was that there may be a leak in the vacuum system and that is why the idle speed varies. He also made the suggestion that I take it to a tuning shop and have them put it on a dyno - this would test the engine throughout the gears and speed ranges and would (should) show up any defects in the mechanicals. He apparently did that with a vehicle he owned in order to get to the bottom of a mystery glitch.

Not unusual. I've both sold and bought empty boxes, either to offload something that I don't have the contents for or to pick up a box for something that I had previously acquired unboxed, or in the wrong box. As someone else said, the box is yours to sell should you so wish. If someone wants it, they will bid for / make an offer for / buy it.

Going back to the beginning and the comments on 26029s bodyside state, I wonder if it ended up on its side more than once? Certainly that is what ultimately led to its condemnation, but obviously not when those pictures were taken. Growing up in Scotland in the 1970s and 1980s, I remember the 26s and 27s well. Although slightly lower powered, the 26s seem to lose their boilers fairly quickly and become the nominated freight locos whereas the 27s were more of the passenger type, no doubt due to their higher max speed (90mph c.f. 75mph). Easiest way to distinguish between the two, when you are young, is that the 27s had headcode boxes and the 26s didn't. The 26s also had cab doors without windows, at least by the time I saw them. 27s seemed to do the domestic passenger work, e.g. Edinburgh to Dundee or Perth etc. They were essentially replaced by Sprinters from 1985 onwards. Later on when the 26s started receiving Heavy General Overhauls and repaints into Large Logo Railfreight Grey, a livery which I thought suited them well. 26001-26008 also received the Railfreight Coal livery after the subsectors were introduced, although only 001-007 had slow speed control fitted for a MGR circuit out of Millerhill - I think that was the only one, unless there was something in SW Scotland too. The MGRs were usually worked double-headed, although I have seen some pictures of single 26s on these - not sure if they were empties only, or a shortened rake for a single loco.

I was going to say that most of the Peaks in the initial pictures at Swindon would have been Class 46s, a number of which were resurrected from storage at ZL, with varying degrees of success and longevity. Something that always surprised me is how long some of the stripped out hulks were left standing for. Would have thought that they would have been cut once stripped if only to recover the space that they occupied. Presumably space wasn't an issue back then. As others have said, although Glory being cut came as a (nasty) surprise, in reality it was a shell having donated many components to the otherwise preserved examples. Perhaps it could have been plinthed somewhere had it survived.

Re Post #884. With respect to platform 1 at Redhill now being a bay, is that a temporary or permanent arrangement? Would seem very odd (to me) if it were a permanent arrangement, as it would appear that a turnout roll-in and a couple of additional signals - yes, I know from experience this is not as trivial as it sounds - would give a through road which presumably would be more useful operationally. Apologies for going off-topic on a thread for EMU pictures...

Thank you for the response. I've also fixed the mess that was post #1. I made two mistakes: 1. I wrote the text in Word and copy-pasted into the box. Normally I'll copy-paste from Word to a plain text editor to remove all the extra guff and then copy-paste from the text editor to the box. I didn't this time. 2. I posted from work. There the internet is behind a filter so some things work and some things don't. Unfortunately the editor didn't so after the post lost the line breaks (they were present in the preview) I couldn't fix the resultant mess.