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hi Iain, golfing in Ireland this time of year (wow, bit cold) how exciting, don't worry the rivets aren't going anywhere !! The space you describe, and being under the main roof is amazing, very fortunate indeed. The layout arrangement will be an interesting challenge, but glad you are sticking with Camden. If I could add one point, no gradients, it's a common thread through most model railway builders, especially at prototypical lengths, with all the other constraints it's just not worth the headache. I intend to indicate a gradient (how I don't know) for the down slow lines under the bridge, and the bank, but we are talking a couple of millimetres only, just couldn't do with a rake coming apart under exhibition conditions. Regarding tank walkways and railings, interesting changes on the railings from the 1936 photo to the BR photo, looks like some changes took place up there. To early for EHS legislation to have kicked in, but you never know. Good luck on the golfing front !! Best regards Stanley

hi Iain, wow looking really good !! Sorry about the raincoat shot, I realised afterwards too. Regarding the roof, I'd always assumed it was generally flat, or with a slight fall to the east, the platform skirted the edge all the way round as per Vincent's model, but it would have been framed from the internal tank trusses. Regarding piping detail as requested - main inlet (west) and outlet (east) these where encased in insulation or a weather shield (protect against freezing in winter) and these where both steel box section as you realised. The vertical sections where bolted together at each horizontal flange set. Regarding the Gibson etch flanges, nice touch aren't they !! You know I'm going to copy basically everything you are doing, you are doing such a great job, besides you can always go and see VW if you get stuck, it's a bit harder for me, I'm already planning another research trip to Camden in 2018. By the way the tank panels look great, now you just need a colour. Any news of the new home front ? Best regards, it a pleasure to be of some small help. Stanley couple more tank photos, you can guess which one is my all time favourite, with both LNWR and LMS coaling plants in one view, how good is that !! The poor quality attachments show the actual roofing (lower left), the better one shows hand rails and something on the righthand side. Snapshot 2007-10-06 10-45-43.tiff Snapshot 2007-10-06 10-46-39.tiff

hi Iain, Thought this may be of interest Best regards Stanley

Hi Iain, The rain jacket photo was taken on the shed platform (yard lighting access) sorry about that, I'll have a hunt round tomorrow, I'm off to bed !! Sorry about the roof, but the tank would have been procured from Braithwaites as a standard item, and roofing for these types of applications were pretty standard. Only later (due to corrosion) were they removed or stripped back. best regards Stanley

Hi Iain, Regarding the tank roof, yep, it had one, refer 1948 photo, if it didn't or was only partially covered the photo would show it as 'solid black'and it doesn't also there appears to be stuff on it ? Regarding the platform, it would have not be directly on the tank but slightly raised (framed) off the roof (the roof wouldn't have been designed to support weight) it would have been timbered landing, and only about 700mm wide maximum, with steel railings as per photo. Check out the rain jacket !! best regards Stanley

Hi Iain, great work on the tank, spotted it in the background of one of your earlier photos. Water tank nozzle orientation, as stated and based on some standard water tank designs I have been involved with, the (possible) arrangement is as per the attached drawing, supported by additional mark ups and photographs. best regards Stanley 1B WT nozzle GA-000.pdf

Hi Iain, the shed tank structure is fantastic, sad to have to paint it. If I can offer some thoughts into service piping, there should be no less than four (4) all but one going to the grade. All mounted inboard into the main tank floor, this includes the overflow (largest diameter) main outlet (next largest) main inlet (at least 50% smaller then the main outlet) down to a 50mm utility and amenities outlet, which was routed along the the coaling plant side of the rough store, with 25mm take offs for domestic supplies and coal spray equipment. Regarding locations, I've included a couple of photos which indicate possible locations. Also the tank may have been furnished with two overflows, which could explain the two (one each side) rectangular section both going to the ground and drain. The rest all appear to be on the coaling plant side. Also check out - http://www.braithwaite.co.uk/pdf/Steel_tank_brochure.pdf(still in business)

Hi Rich, impressive !! probably as long as the shed at Euston !! well done, also good info regarding the sheeting costs consideration. best regards Stanley

Happy New Year (nearly) Paris 16:40hrs, What a great couple of posts to close out 2015, the coaling plant is stunning, and both clips are great the 0-6-0T looks the part, although a bit clean The second run clip really does show off the layout well, the point work in the country end yard is very impressive in front of the turntable. Your attention to detail on the coaling plant is above discussion, and as stated by Jeremy a great centre piece !! You are spot on regarding the steel work, gantries for the winding motor change outs. Best regards, thanks for the inspiration Stanley

Who needs a Coronation ?, I have to draw a line somewhere !! apologies ☺️ Wow both sides, now that will get the web buzzing !! I know the work feeling, couple more days, and then a months leave, we are heading over to your side of the planet, Italy, France and Switzerland. Interesting plan, roof space anyway, anything else going on other than the layout - haha !! just joking. RMWEB is just the best site, along with YouTube, Have you had a look at Rudy model railway, and train controller gold (fantastic) Thanks for sharing 2015 with us all, Best regards again for Christmas Stanley

hi Iain, Yep, that's the magazine that caused all the trouble!! Up until I picked up that copy in late 1994, I had been drifting through a number of layout possibilities, one even being a fictitious location north west of Sandy, on the LNER, but with LMS joint running lines, luckily I'd only bought one NE tank loco. But by that Christmas, my fate was sealed, it was LMS or nothing, I later learned of the politics between the LMS and the MR, and swayed slightly to the LNWR, although I had by that time a large amount of Fowler, so I worked the layout date backward, just far enough to see Claughtons, Prince of Wales and George the Fifth still running to/from Bletchley, and Birmingham, without impacting on the larger Princess Class, Turbomotive and Patriots, (12/06/1936) who needs a Coronation anyway !! The coaling plant, wow impressive, looks great, will yours have the chicken wire containment screens, it's such a dominate structure on such spindly legs !! Merry Christmas Iain, how's the golf and new home plans going ? Best regards Stanley

hi Rich, Thanks for the videos and your RMweb story, amazing how the photos (here) deliver a another perspective to your work, great balance of practical (video) and detail (photos), really appreciate you sharing all this information and time with us all. Best regards, it will be time to turn the heaters on soon enough, Stanley

Ruud Boer, hi Rudy, Thanks so much for going to so much trouble to share the train controller operating system, the program is so detailed, without your videos I would have only scratched the surface, and the possibilities now seem endless !! best regards Stanley

Hi Guys, I'm looking at the DCC Concepts lamps, they work and are to scale (well I'm hoping they are "just right" Arthur) My god Iain, watching your clips had the strangest impact, just for a split second I was standing near the shed, amazing, well done, have to watch them again !!

Hi Guys, here is the link to tilling point kit assembly (thanks Doug, Model Rail Forum, 2007) http://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2253 Interestingly the Tillig 85446 and 85447 are selling in Australia for $68.95, about 45.78 euro, compared to 39.88 euro currently your best price, hardly worth the postage effort so I bought a couple of points (85446/7) locally today, and wouldn't you know it, one of the switch rail tabs (the bit that attaches to the tie or stretcher bar) was broken/missing. I took it back and Fred (Orient Express, Adelaide) changed it over straight away, but it has got me thinking about long term durability, so I think it's a spot of Araldite (two part epoxy) at the tie bar to switch rail tabs just in case in future. Please don't take this as a weakness, when you inspect the Tillig 85446 and 85447 tabs, they are a robust arrangement, but lets say it's a flag to ensure full life cycle reliability. best regards Stanley couple of shots of healthy tabs

Hi Iain, Great to see you are still going strong, I've been business busy, but so glad you are still sharing your progress on the layout. The Stanier tender and engine detailing info is great, and much appreciated.

hi guys, try: modellbahnshop-lippe, Germany http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjw3auuBRDj1LnQyLjy-4sBEiQAKPU_veXhrDYGM-uv1utomwQDyMhSIw8U9SynNxd6jX-G57kaAubk8P8HAQ I have bought from these guys, great service, packaging and postage to Australia, always efficient and competitively priced when you watch out for their specials. Yep the site looks busy, and you need to know basically what you are looking for first. But the Tillig site, http://www.tillig.com is good and as RonRonRon points out the catalogue is worth the expense up front, their points kits are great, especially after you have seen the web page on how to construct one, plus bought a ready made one also as an example. I downloaded the photos regarding the how to construct one, if required I can post them here (if I can find them) Pity about INTERNATIONAL MODELS, their prices were the best in 2014. CONRAD, somewhere over your side of the planet http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/overview/1606326/H0-Tillig-Gleis-Elite-Code-83 never bought from these guys, although their prices haven't increased much since 2013, but still more expensive than modellbahnshop-lippe For me, this is the business, it looks good out of the box, and with a little sleeper spacing adjustment for the code 83 rails will impress even the hardened rivet counter. The points and crossing are great, even if the tie bars appears dodgy, something that can easily be modified upfront, or breakage avoided through careful setting up of the point motor. PS regarding the focus on cost, I have a lot of track work to build, and it's not cheap, don't be afraid of their superelevation underlay, its great, but lay track on MIDWEST cork for the absolute best finish. best regards Stanley

Hi Jock, seem to all be okay on an Oz iPad ?

"I'm building an approximation of Camden Shed, not a perfect replica on one particular afternoon, so there is nothing preventing a slight stretching of the window. Any thoughts? Iain" An 'approximation' I would argue that point, more like a perfect interpretation, a very good one, Why not have a number of specific dates to allow you to vary your motive and rolling stock, but to those dates only. I think with the exception of some minor track work and signalling the general architecture would have changed very little over those years,

Hi Rich, I've been quietly following EJ from the beginning, fantastic, but the signalling video beats the lot, thanks so much for taking the time to share this 'aspect' of your layout with everybody. best regards Stanley

the Pembroke....

Laurie who, you ask ? Long before Starvis, Stoneman, and Thorpe .... the likes of FC Brooker, born 1888, LNWR 1904, firing 1907, driving 1919; LA Earl, LNWR 1901, driving 1916; WE Freestone, firing 1900, driving 1920; and BA Marchant to name a few, all legends in their own right. Others were Charlton, Garrett, Gibson and Stone. Others, not Camden based were J Greenhalgh and T.Clark, both of Crewe North. Laurie 'Ninety' Earl, Frank Brooker and Marchant all were top link drivers in the 1933 period. Special mention must go however to Tom Clark who joined the LNWR in 1888, and together with firemen Charles Fleet and Albert Shaw, all of Crewe 5A, took on the 16th November 1936, 6201 Princess Elizabeth from Euston to Glasgow in 5hrs, 53mins, 38sec. An amazing result for its day, when you consider a Pendolino is currently scheduled at 4hrs 31mins (acknowledging stops) and an unbroken record for steam traction.

Even into 1933 the shed still boasted nineteen LNWR types out of fifty express engines, however Stanier was about to change it all, but not before the likes of Laurie Earl had taught Midland Enginemen how to drive their own engines !! Yes, I said it out loud...........

and to make up for my lack of golf savvy, a bit more shed detail: The shed modernisation plan, shows some interesting internal turntable sites, three external wall door locations, window and not window detail, also the coaling plant filling strategy which appears to be made up in racks of twentyone wagons both empty and full allocation. This building is full of history and older lost architectural symmetry, in that it had two machine shop spaces, upper floors and chimney stacks , the southern structure located were the current wheel drop is located. The other photo shows one of the door sets during the 1932 rebuilding

Hi Iain, Best wishes for Christmas, and the New Year, Golf, is a priority, this gift you cannot set aside. Modelling Railway is a journey, and for each modeller it is different, it is that persons journey to capture something for themselves alone, we share to understand and learn. Motivation can be inspired by others, knowledge, technology or importantly available time. Each of us has differing priorities, golf, family, career, disposable income, which affect the scale of the model railway project. As for myself, time, available space and knowledge are the current challenges, so I work round these and fill in the other gaps (rolling stock, equipment, and track) waiting for the others to resolve themselves. All the time however I am doing model railway for myself as an enjoyable escape, which I can choose to share or not. Currently I am (1) trying to work out "how does the shed coal train get onto and off of the shed, across the main running lines" and (2) "drawing back the curtain on the shed outside wall" You have inspired many since at least February 2012, that you are a model railway enthusiast is enough, that you actually model them is great but only as you can enjoy it, and for nobody else. ps golf to me is a black hole.