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Hi Jol, Best wishes for the new year. Control panel looks the business, if possibly a little weighty, but plenty of room for a couple of handles if needed. Thanks for taking the time to keep us all updated on your progress.

LMSR 6202 (R30134) Turbomotive I recently received the Hornby LMSR 6202 model, via Hatton's. I was stunned as I opened the shipping package, and the product packaging, so well done by both Hornby and Hatton's to ensure it made the journey safely (Australia) it was a joy as it was opened up. The actual model is beautiful at first glance, everything looked perfect, however on closer inspection of the cab detail and finish, I would say it was disappointing, points as follows: the crude removal of the knee guard on the drivers side, is very poor, nearly upsetting, as it is a left over from the standard Princess Royal Class cab. the reverser screw gear is incorrect for 6202, and would have been better left off this build. When comparing this 6202 (R30134) with 6201 (R3709) the detailing and quality/finish of the 6201 cab does exceed that of the 6202. Notwithstanding pricing difference of each product, these issues require attention on future batches to ensure brand sustainability, and loyalty. On an up note, there appears to be real progress regarding colour matching across the different materials which make up the model, this together with the promoted features, I am sure will be well received. this is the 6202 as produced, and as referenced in the text above. this is the 6201 cab as produced, with more attention to the smallbore piping, the reverse screw assembly is also better presented.

Hi Ian, yes, you are correct, as constructed with boiler No 9100, 6202 didn’t have a shed code plate attached, although it appears to have had bolting points for such an attachment. After the July 1936 Crewe heavy overhaul, 6202 was outshopped with a new boiler No 9236, after which, receiving a 1B shed code. A difficult item to spot due to the oil cooler fall plate being in the elevated position when running.

Daniel Kelham, of the LMS Modelling Society on Facebook posted some great 6202 and 6201 running footage on the Dewsbury Midland layout. There is also a 16sec clip with sound, which is perfect. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1377846428917638/permalink/6640420405993521/?mibextid=W9rl1R Definitely worth a look if your a member, or joining if you’re not.

Quite right, regarding the ballasting, however the timbering would have served a number of purposes, firstly to prevent/mitigate ballast undermining from the large quantities of trough water ‘wash’ it would be exposed to every day, the timber would distribute the ‘wash’ evenly across the area, and to the cess drains. Secondly these water troughs required constant maintenance, these timbers would have delivered sound footing for permanent way gangs.

At last, some facts, and value adding comments, unlike some in this thread to date. Thanks so much for taking the time to photo the retail version, and providing this ad hoc review. Also, thanks for the follow up strip down and lighting information. Mine is on its way too.

Hi Peter, trusting you are in good health, hopefully the weather is treating you well also. had to smile at your list of questions, couple of years in that lot 🙂 to get the ball rolling, I’ve attached a link to a YouTube piece by Alex Scott, it’s very good first hand on shed experience. let me know how you get on, I also have a book by Laurie Earl, Camden driver of the day, it’s aimed at a schoolboy age, but it’s an interesting read regardless, it detailed the preparation and operation of the royal scot to Glasgow. Best wishes Stanley Hi Iain, yes still here, great progress, love the YouTube video clips. How is Vincent, have you caught up lately. very very best regards Stanley

Hi Iain, Thanks, and thank goodness it was built in BR days 😃 gets me off the hook. The running session video looks fantastic, can’t get over how well everything looks and runs, definitely breaking some speed limits and making the bank look like something completely different to 1/70 🤣 as always stanley.

Great video clip of progress to date Iain, your care and attention to the permanent way has really paid off in terms of smooth running, beautiful point transitions and not a wobble anywhere, fantastic. All the very best and thanks for sharing Stanley

Great work on the electric motor bogie, very convincing, I need three, 00 gauge, six car sets, so very interested in your progress. I also have had similar issues viewing forum jpegs and drawings, including most of the jpegs that have been posted in this thread, although the later posts (motor bogie, and motor bogie drawing) look great. While there appears to be some work being carried out to rectify the drawing and photo problem, to date it’s been nearly a year. I’ve attached a number of photos to keep the conversation going, I trust no copyright is being breached and they are referenced where possible. best regards

Terrible news, how upsetting for you guys

LMS 6202, tender No9003, it appears, as noted in the comment from the Hornby Magazine YouTube channel, that the tender under frame is incorrect regarding the tender steps, hopefully this will be resolved before release

Hi Iain, fantastic video, trackwork looks great, nice sound track too. Is that St Saviours steeple in the background, or am I just imagining it. Love the cross border pushing past the local as they crest the climb, perfect start to any morning

Wow, fantastic, another puzzle resolved, well done Iain.

Hi Peter, great to find you here, trust you are well, best regards Stanley

totally agree, they definitely look the part

Hi Iain, Yes, Peters' book show a number of great examples of the surface hard stand both in front of, and behind the Goods Station. Peter and I corresponded during its development, it was a pleasure to be a part of the research team involved. The transition from hardstand cobbles and inlaid (on edge rectangular bricks) pavers is shown to good effect on page 51, plus page 64 for a colour shot. Being that the rails formed the apron to the hard stand, or as per the jpeg below it was formed along the signal cable trunking, you would recognise these photo locations.

Sorry about that, yes Tamworth Station

LNWR 2-4-0 Improved Precedent No 1676 'The Nile' is seen standing at the up platform on a up semi-fast express service circa 1901, unfortunately the coal rails appear standard by this time, maybe Bachmann might do a parts supply It’s possible that this engine could have seen Aston, or Walsall

Regarding Lucknow, lucky you, I’m struggling to find any detail regarding the prototype LNWR Lucknow 1673, maybe a name change to 1745 John Bright

Compound2632, you are right on the money, the Webb and Cook buffer intermix, and whether they would have been changed prior to withdrawal.

Well picked, I missed that one haha

check out the buffers, Talavera was withdrawn in December 1932, would they have changed the buffers over between March and December that year, maybe.... Fortunately Bachmann are on the ball regarding this matter, the model comes supplied with Webb and Cook style buffers.