JeffP

All the best Gilbert, I hope it all goes well.

In 1977/8, I ran trips for some local lads, in my car, with one of their older brothers riding along. We used to do: Frodingham, Doncaster, Knottingley, Tinsley, Beighton, Wath, Barrow Hill, Worksop, Westhouses, Toton, Derby, Nottingham Caariage sidings, Colaville and Lecister in one day, usually seeing over FOUR HUNDRED locos. And on a sunday, not that much traffic on the roads either. Happy days.......

Well I live in Scun thorpe......try typing THAT into most internet engines.

Where? What did I miss? Did it have a Lyons pie?

You could get around the end of platform not being populated by having the dreaded signs: "Absolutely NO trainspotting is allowed on these platforms." Went to Doncaster once in 1960 and there they were, one at each entry of the subway........I don't know if there had been an incident, but ALL the spotters that day were lined up on the footbridge to the Racecourse Platforms, off "Jimmy's Bridge", (St James Bridge), south of the station. There must have been a couple of hundred.....

Does look better with the shelves covered, the eye now is drawn to the train. Will your platform ends be populated with spotters? Perhaps each of us could send you a photo around 12 years old, someone could model us, and you could collect sponsorship money to be in one of your photos? I want to be modelled HOLDING a Lyons pie, but it HAS to be recognisably blackberry and apple........

I hope FL get money knocked off then. Would YOU buy a new "damaged&repaired" car, for example?

Ah, but at least that EXISTS. Should you be lucky/rich enough, you CAN have one. How would you like something that weighed around 1200kg and knocked out over 450bhp? With over 400lbs ft? In a 4wd format?

CGW USED to do specific plates. I know the then owner Mr Watford still does in 7mm scale with his Severn MIll range.

I DON'T CARE who does it, and I'm not fussed on costs,(unless it's like TWICE the going rate). I just want one. Someone, please, before I lose the ability to model...........

Following this with interest, I am minded to warn Gilbert: if you make the shelves invisible to the CAMERA, they also become invisible to THE EYE! I did this with a sheet over an "N" gauge layout. I then forgot where the end of the shelf was, and, bending forwards, clouted myself beneath my right eye on the hidden end. The result was a nasty cut and a black eye, ........which my year-tens thought my wife had done! We don't want Gilbert doing the same, the blood would RUIN that trackwork!!! Only joking Gilbert, but DO take care.

Yep.......and then the blasted "twins" come along together! I bet JLTRT would sell more Falcons than they have twins!

Here we are: http://www.kzwp.com/lyons/group1.htm Introduced in 1939, scroll down about half the page for flavours. BlackBERRY and apple is there, as is raspberry, which I also remember. 2d each though? I'm sure they were 6d by the 60's.

Now, see, those 31 bogies are VERY close to the ones fitted to "Falcon".........if only Heljan could see the potential....

I think that the ablove looks VERY good, except that I would question his usage of the word "silicon(sic). Apart from the fact that he MEANS "silicone", I have NEVER managed to get paint to stick to silicone in ANY form. Perhaps his water-based silicone is actually acrylic sealer/frame sealant? That stuff IS water based and is very cheap from the likes of Screwfix.

No, I didn't miss that discussion, I was part of it, and I STILL think they were Lyons and that apple and blackBERRY existed. But yes, I take your point about how far to go. Reminds me of the guy that laboured for hours to make a coffee table diorama, then started all over again so he could get MORE detail in in a larger scale. he apprently didn't want just a BUTTERFLY, he wanted a particular TYPE of butterfly...

This thread has made me LOL TWICE this afternoon: Let's get the sky/sun direction/type of clouds right? There are no hills round Peterborough? OK guys, now we ARE being pedantic. But I suppose that when the realism of the modelling led to a page's discussion of the CLEANLINESS of loco lamps, or otherwise, last week, then why not? Why not indeed. Classic thread.

Is this it? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Johnson-Pledge-Multi-Surface-Wax-Cleaner-750ml-Formerly-known-Johnsons-KLEAR-/260954097047?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3cc2138597

I was going to suggest a couple of lengths of electrical solder glued up inside the bagging? This Johnson's Klear: is it the stuff there was a big debate on recently on one of these sites, as it's changed, or no longer available?

The best stuff I ever used for road surfaces was a filler made for filling cracks in walls. It came ready mixed and was called Tetrion. It was cement/concrete coloured.

More lovely photos. I like the water cranes, but the bagging doesn't hang right, does it? For me that was the only jarring note. But how to get it to do so, I don't know, I really don't. The paintwork on "Sun Castle" just glows. It LOOKS like it's been dirtier, but cleaned. I don't know how you could replicate it, but if you could get your A4's to look the same, they would be more realistic. At the moment they seem to have an overall flat sheen?

Another nice set of pictures, Gilbert. I loved the Brits too. Immingham was almost impossible to get round as a lad, being, as it was, in the middle of dockland, so more security than you could shake a stick at. (Goole, another nearby interesting depot, was the same). We got 70036/7/8 through Scunny regular in the early 60's on Cleethorpes to? trains, always departing here at 1930.

There are Freightliner sidings south of the station, it could be that? Just south of the Holgate Road bridge.

Looks nice. What's the valvegear like compared to either DJH or Finney?

I used to chase flatirons all over, including a visit to Lens depot. Once I get all my negs scanned in I might put some up on Flickr etc. I also saw ALL the 1100 series of electric shunting locos before they all went.