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CNY is 19/20 Feb. Possibly if they are getting marginal* on finishing production and getting it on the boat before then, then even a small delay becomes a big one. It's that time of year. * or someone with more clout is getting marginal and is pushing Dapol back.

Blanks filled in and next verse added More planks on my wagon And I'm still rolling along Them Cherokees are after me Flaming spears Burn my ears But I'm singing a happy song!

The extra * in the first verse has also been removed. Looks like extra bits are going to be added until we have a complete wagon. Presumably an anouncement of a wagon to go with the Adams will follow. If it has planks then not a tank wagon or steel/iron body.

Count the * Possibly to become New wheels on my wagon So I'm now rolling along ??

Surely the availability of mince pies and sherry would guarantee it was a sandwich proping open the door.

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Tower models have pictures of the first 5 liveries for the milk tanks. This is the first time details of what the actual liveries will look like for 3 of them. The St Ivel is to be produced later. Note the United Dairies is the same shot we have already seen, complete with typos, whether they have been corrected on production versions remains to be seen. The remainder have no markings on the chassis at all, one hopes this is an expedient to display the tank liveries and production versions will be marked (sans typos). Unigate Creameries is much as the samples displayed some time ago, silver. Express Dairies and Milk Marketing Board are blue, CWS is brown(red). Buffers will need changing for longer ones if curves allow, rivets and brake gear issues seem still to be there, but they do have screw couplings.

Time will tell, but my reading between the lines suggests a fair degree of 'interesting times' in the chineses sense (how appropriate!) and maybe a bit of one hand tied. The jump from the frying pan has now been well and truely made, and the forging in the fire well underway, but not complete, with a whole new set of challenges to meet. Current occupants of the frying pan have yet to show any clean run product (8 wagons announced with a statement that CAD/ prototypes be shown would be shown early 2014 - we are well beyond that!) however delays are endemic for all the manufacturers so it's hardly a total surprise, and in the end what does appear is what counts. The jury is still out.

O over oo or eyesight, or as was pointed out previously, prefering the 'presence' of the larger scale.

As a matter of curiosity, when might we learn what DJM's house colours/packaging is to be? Will all the scales be the same? I imagine you are aiming to have first product out for Christmas, in maybe n and 00.

Years ago when Percy first came out I found that the performance cound be tamed ( to the extent that it would run in a more compatible way with other locos) by the simple expedient of fitting a 27ohm 1 watt resistor in series with the motor. It would still pull scale loads too. Don't know if current ones are still the same.

You are going to give details of how and when to sign up I trust, could not find you on Kickstart.

That has to be a big 'Hooray' for Mrs Tilt, thank you.

New liveries for some of the po wagons now on Lionheart trains website in news section. Baldwin 8plank+ coke rails Baldwin 7plank + coke rails Bedwas coke 8plank + coke rails Lambert & cox 7plank possibly for Telford

In this case surely the 'oncoming train' is the prefered option!

I look foward to the livery announcements in due course.

I observe from a couple of vendors websites that there is a 7th livery listed for the tank wagon - Esso with the logo, but without the white lettering. What the difference in the two Carringtons liveries is, is still unclear, as Kernow have the same image for both.

Well I am looking at building one, the rule generally seems to be only when I have finished does the rtr one appear, it happened a few times in my oo days. Unfortunately with the smaller 7mm market Dave would probably have chose other, more commercial MUs first - like an HST - if ever MUs do become viable. Shunting planks can't accommodate them which leaves larger layouts and garden railways as the target market - a smaller slice of a small market, so it may be a while! Still we can dream.

The 'peculiar brake handles' were revised to more standard ones on the P O wagons for Tower Models delivered at the beginning of October and production samples before that, - that's a DJ tweak. I do not doubt RW's commitment to O gauge in the slightest ( the Peco kits still speak volumes in his favour, as well as the Lionheart range), it is Dapol's commitment in the face of real world problems that is on test. I hope they can stick with it.

R W has put out some views of cad cams for the new Lionheart wagons (GWR LMS LNER) (supposed to be working on partnership with Dapol), announcements on the coke raves suggest these will take a while before they are available and presumably the wagons will be after that. But that's ok, that's being frank - at least we know where we stand. Dapol rather nailed their colours to the mast with these new (8) wagons as being produced by the new team (design starting end Sept and displaying engineering prototypes early in the new year) So we would hope to see something at Kettering, whether that is 3D prints on show or just pictures of the same doesn't matter too much (they are produced as part of the working design process not just for display) Just as long as there's something - even if it's not all of them. Note that they have not yet given a firm production date, and would be well advised not to at this stage, it may well be a way off given the problems that all the companies seem to be facing, by their own admission quite possibly into 2015. Also these models may be given a higher priority than some of the previously announced models - the new team will naturally want to make their mark. However Kettering is not that far away and if they don't manage to show at least some progress by then, then the RTR future begins to look Heljan (with maybe a smattering of DJM) One hopes that they can.

It has arrived (GWR No1) and it's a lovely model. If ever there is a batch in the LMS livery (No2) I'd have one of those too, though since that had the starter engine on the other side that may not be easy to do.

But they do have their fans... ( )

Good, a step underpinning the 'maybe later' disc version of the 7mm class 23. I realise there are many hurdles to negotiate before you get to that, including the quite significant one of staying in business, but that's the one of those you've announced or hinted at so far that would tempt me. Kipper on standby.

The Lionheart 64xx and autocoach are very good, though I'm sure DJM could come in at a slightly lower price. I imagine that quite a few of those interested in one would also be interested in the other. Oh! Sigh. It seems that you might have been talking of 4mm. Perhaps we all need to state which scale we are talking about and not assume ours is the only one that matters. (7mm)

Could be interested in this if it will do (basic) sound on analogue. Does the selected chip do that?