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Any update on any of these builds/conversions?

Damn that could scupper the process somewhat. PS you did know I was joking yeah?

Brilliant I especially love the size and position of the jib which means if it derails it can lift its self back on the track!!!

Thanks Rob thats extremely usefull

Hello lovely people I'm wondering if any one can help me, I'm chopping around some old Triang Caley singles with the view of making some other types of single. I'm ok for the big driver but its the 18mm wheel at the back. Where could I find some plain wheels this size with out the hole and moulding for the crank pin. You can get them from eBay but usually as a pair with the main driver so for every one I get a set of I'm left with the large driver that I don't need and that route will work out to be rather expensive to get all the wheels I need. Thanks in advance Steve

So basically O gauge still nice. I've got a selection of bits collected over the years including a small spud motor bogie an upright boiler and one of the white metal yard crane kits (cant remember the make) I'm going to try and marry them all together to build one similar to the crane in the first post in OO Many years ago (and were talking 45 years) I built this loose scale model of one of Stanton iron works crane tanks on the chassis of a Hornby Caley pug. Its still around today in my son's care who has added better valve gear detail and it can still be seen running on his own industrial layout.

It doesn't give a scale!

Not to far off topic please chaps, this is a good thread don't spoil it please.

Outstanding work my friend well done

Those gas lamps are beautiful the rest is progressing nicely too

I harvest every thing for parts nothing goes to waste even parts like splashers and buffer beams.

Thankyou Nick I was yes as like you I have a passion for early Scottish locos by Drummond and others who followed the Stroudley school of thought and design. At this point I'm going to shatter all your excitement and expectations as it's going to be a slightly loose scale layout quality loco using one of these as a starting point. It's not so daft as it might first seem infact the Caley single was built only 9 years after the NB loco, there both Drummond inspired designs and both built by Neilson and Co The idea is to take the Triang Model and reduce the smoke box by about 2mm and remove about 9 mm from the running plate infront of the smoke box. I've got a spare smoke box front from from an incomplete Jameson Jumbo kit with the right wing profile, this kit will provide a chimney too. New hand rails to replace the moulded ones and using a spare rear wheel set convert the twin axle front bogie to a single axle one, it should be a full length chassis but this option will give some flexibility for curves and points ect. The tender tank is ok but new side frames with the underslung springs will be drawn and cut with my Silhouette cutter. I'm DC so nothing complex there but I will add pickups to the tender wheels to aid smoother running. Now with all your help it seems the brake air pump is in the same place as the one on the Caley loco so the scope is there to leave that well alone. Apart from a few other details like a new dome and whistle that's going to be about it. The one down side that can't be changed easily is that the Caley Single has slightly larger wheels and thus main splashers but I'm thinking unless you knew you probably would never notice so am happy to live with that. This with some of the new Hattons/Hornby generic carriages should make a nice cir 1880 train. What do you all think

As the title says I'm after any information and photo's of the above named locomotives. There was two built to a Dugauld Drummond design and built by Neilson and Co given the NBR numbers 474 and 475 Any information, photo's or drawings would be a help and am particularly interested on what type of brakes they had towards the end of there lives and even when the end of there lives was. I believe they were Air braked but where was the air pump? Thanks for any help you can give.

Doesn't want any more mates does he?

In the town its self. We're on the housing estate behind the pleasure beach between the sea front and the river known as the Barracks estate on account that it was built on the site of an old army barracks. The recent storms have taken all the beach from the Wellington pier to the harbours mouth. All the dunes have almost gone and the sea's upto the sea wall near the pleasure beach. The council is still dithering over the restoration of the Winter gardens as that continues to deteriorate oh and the big ugly Marina center and swimming pool has been demolished so they can build one even more ugly than the last. Here's a shot of the storm damage to the beach. The sand was level with the sea wall last week and only the top step was visable. Now the steps which are near the pleasure beach are "floating" in mid air with the sea starting to undermine the sea wall its self. It's estimated that between 8ft to 10ft depth of beach has gone in the space of a couple of days.

As a massive die hard Caledonian fan I'm looking forward to this with great anticipation and already that station building looks superb and I like the idea of the Wills goods store, I wonder if to give it a more "Scottish" look maybe the trestle base could be replaced with a stone base made from some Wills stone effect plasticard but that's just my opinion. My one thought is the Caledonian although it did occasionally happen were as a company very adverse to running tender first and in some cases like the Balachulish extension to the Callander and Oban line Tender locos we're banned from the line untill the Turntable was completed so it might be worth looking around for a 439 class tank loco (They turn up frequently on that auction site both built and unbuilt plus I've seen some good conversions of Hornby M7 to the 439 class too)

For any one that's got one and might know - being metal how receptive do you think the buffers would be to taking solder. I was wondering if the concave section could be in filled and then reprofiled with sand paper?

Get in touch with the BBC this could be a good one for the Repair Shop!

If both the 2P and the 4F are loco drive and predate the Hornby/Airfix 4F could it be the Triang/Hornby 3F both this and the 2P lack the detail of modern models but with some detailing work can be made into acceptable layout models. I've had 4 of the Hornby tender drive 4F three of which ran lovely the forth was very noisy. Model railways is all about enjoying the hobby not just buying the latest out the box model and slating every thing that has gone before and berating anyone who dares to still own or buy one

Oh with out a doubt turbos they've done an excellent job with the LNWR livery but it does look a "tad" to red for a LNWR livery it should have slightly more of a purple lake to it and as such looks like it could pass for a Caledonian red lake. So on saying that the only major change I suggested was to change the LNWR crests for transfers of Caledonian ones. I've emailed Hornby to ask if there are any plans for the future liveries to see if a Caledonian one is amongst them and am waiting for them to get back to me. I've had an automatic response thanking me for my inquiries and stating they will get back to me as soon as they can.

Thank you Chris I was aware of the Hattons plans but was on this thread to see if Hornby had the same intentions

No not the same at all, As you say maybe an email might be worth while

Hello all sorry if this has been asked or discussed before but to save me trawling through 50 plus pages on this thread can anyone tell me if Hornby intend introducing a set in Caledonian livery in any future phases. Looking at both this and the upcoming range from the alternative supplier it would appear that most of the Hornby ones even though a generic besign bare a closer resemblance to some Caley prototypes than the operations range will. The 6 wheel brake third is certainly one example. But dare I say the alternative suppliers 6 wheel full brake better represents a Caley type than does the Hornby full brake. So is anyone awear as to if the Caley livery is planed for the future?

Super D don't be fooled by appearances he's a 20 stone brick layer during the week he only dresses like that at the week end but then again who doesn't? Early 1950s would have seen black fives in charge of fast freight and local passenger workings. Don't forget by the mid 1950s the standard types were starting to make there mark with the all conquering 9F eventually owning the line. LNER4479 no offence my friend

Good luck with this which ever path you take with the chassis I look forward to seeing updates on the progress with this. Steve