Holmesfeldian

I have seen a short video clip somewhere of a Co-Bo arriving at a depot in the Leeds area, most likely Holbeck, towing dead steam locos. Presumably, they all came from Carnforth via Skipton, although I cannot locate the dvd which features the clip at present.

If it's the clip I'm thinking of, I think it's *at* Carnforth. A line of withdrawn Black 5s being propelled by a Co-Bo (seen very briefly at the end of shot).

It's the closing scene from Paul Barnes' acclaimed 1968 documentary - "Black Five".

Wow.

 

I have had mine out of its box today for only the third time and just applied the Railtech Anti macassars to the seats and just debating should I weather it as hoping to use it this weekend

Blimey - mine has never left the brown shipping carton and I’m starting to think it never should !

Too true - the foam packaging in some of my Lilliput coaches is now a sticky brown powder. 

My Sennheiser MD414 headphone pads turn to dust regularly 

As an aside, there is a cracking photo online of a Swindon set being hauled eastwards past Dunford Bridge (West) box by a vo class 76, presumably ECS.

 

Thought it was on Flickr, but can't seem to find it. Think the loco is 76001.

Here's a green HYP Class 24 with similar accoutrements.

Picture by Dave Marks on Flickr : Return race spl 1967 

Not the best photographic example but the clearest one I could find on google (1971, Crewe Works - OPC postcard) and it demonstrates one of the subtle locomotive detail nuances that has long fascinated me.

Can any of the experts please offer suggestions as to why certain locos for a limited period had the thin black surrounds around Headcode discs.

I was once told that it was introduced to help identification of oncoming trains in the half yellow warning panel period but as can be seen it continued into the BR blue era to a limited degree

Derby (then 16C) had a Class 27 for a month (D5404) in late 1963 - I'd love to learn more details !
There is one alleged sighting of it working through Duffield and that's it!

Its probably all to do with the tooling setup in the factories which are geared round multiples of X. Just a in computing* this sometimes results in 'odd sounding' numbers.

 

In other words if they can produce X models per shift then multiply that by Y shifts = 504

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*e.g. 16 rather than 15, 128 rather than 125, 256 rather than 250, 1024 rather than 1000, etc

As someone who has commissioned 2 separate specially commissioned wagons from Bachmann on behalf of the Midland Railway Society I can advise that it is because you get 4 wagons in a box and 18 boxes in a carton of 72.

So 7 cartons gets you (if you’re lucky!) 504 wagons.

The website is showing sold out for non-sound version.

So how does one obtain one of these last chance saloons?

I had heard previously that engines in 50s were moved about a bit. I wonder if this happened with other larger classes?

When 50023 was cut up at Barrow Hill it had DP2's engine block - recognisable by the different cylinder head covers.

A shame that - would have been a good scheme for the Baby Deltic lads to retro fit it to a Deltic body shell 

I was always under the illusion that if Hornby (or Bachmann) did a commission that the dealer or who ever wanted done had to put a substantial non refundable deposit down before any work was started so the risk to the manufacturer was minimised. I was told this by a model shop I used to frequent and they wanted to commission a wagon to be sold through their shop.

I never understood why a commission run is 504 or some other odd number, why not make it a straight 500?

As someone who has commissioned 2 separate specially commissioned wagons from Bachmann on behalf of the Midland Railway Society I can advise that it is because you get 4 wagons in a box and 18 boxes in a carton of 72.

So 7 cartons gets you (if you’re lucky!) 504 wagons.

I hope the DCR logo is correct - I produced the original and Hornby never consulted me for dimensions, Pantone references, etc!
(Can I claim copyright fees for my original work?  )
 

It’ll be interesting to see how this compares with the Bachmann equivalent (and any possible SLW plans for extending into the 25s as mooted on here)...

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No fewer than TEN versions have been selected, covering a broad cross-section of BR green, BR blue and special liveries and offering a choice of London Midland, Scottish and Western Region prototypes from the mid-1960s to the late-1980s.

The model represents the final development of the 478 Derby/Sulzer Type 2s, which started with Class 24 in the late-1950s. Our model will cover the D5238-99 and D7500-D7677 batches, built by Derby Works and Beyer, Peacock of Manchester between December 1963 and April 1967.

For the first time, models will also be offered as the famous Scottish Region ‘ETHEL’ (Electric Train Heating Ex-Locomotive) train heating units converted from Class 25/3s as a short-term solution prior to the delivery of Class 37/4s in 1985. These machines later found work with InterCity’s Charter Unit, lasting into the 1990s.

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2530 – BR two-tone green D7645 with small yellow panels

2531 – BR two-tone green D5244 with small yellow panels - WEATHERED

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2533 – BR early blue D7661 with small yellow panels

2534 – BR rail blue D7667 with full yellow ends (twin double arrows – 1,000th loco built at Derby Works)

2535 – BR rail blue 25252 (LMR) with full yellow ends (single, central double arrows) and headcode panel still in place

2536 – BR rail blue 25155 (WR) with full yellow ends (single, central double arrows) and headcode panel still in place- WEATHERED

2537 – BR Rail Blue 25093 (ScR/LMR) with bodyside numbers (single, centrally placed double arrows) and ‘domino’ headcodes

2538 – BR 25912 Tamworth Castle ‘Ice Cream Van’ livery with silver roof

2539 – BR Special two-tone green D7672 Tamworth Castle

2540 – BR blue/grey ETHEL1 ADB97250

2541 – InterCity ETHEL3 ADB97252

Possibly, but if 49 had been built or 51, then the question would be why 49/51 and not 50?

 

BTW, wasn't there a 101 Hymek's built?

There were but the original requirement was 45 locos (D7000-D7044). Subsequent additional orders made it up to 101 in total (conveniently stopping at D7100!).

Just to fan the flames further, wasn't there 999 BR Standard steam locos built? 

Why not 1,000? :-)

​Firstly for those wanting information on the Society, the website may be accessed thus:

 

​http://midlandrailway.org.uk

 

 

Officially it is www.midlandrailwaysociety.org.uk

 

As I've said before, if someone can supply an accurate dimension drawing of the block, I can have one milled out, drilled and tapped out of solid brass where I work on one of our all singing all dancing CNC machines.

Hi  Has anyone got a decent picture of the destination blind on the Western power cars.  Got a bit of a project going on here......  thank

Here's a brief clip from the film which may help.

Here’s one from my private stash, Al.

Great to see you back in the groove !

This is a video I recommend regarding MGR fixed rakes and weathering.

Va-va-voom!

https://youtu.be/DLulQjtCUxA

EE did types 1 and 3 very well, but their first type 4 (40s) were heavy and a bit under powered, 

One former BR loco engineer said to me that BR were very kind to the Class 40 - they were in effect a Type 3 and a half in all but name! 

(and 40s are my favourite class before anyone has a go!)

Are you sure you don't mean the building on the far left of this picture ?....

https://flic.kr/p/gw3nfs

DP2 was a thing

It existed

DP1 was not a thing

It never existed.

There was a DELTIC

The End