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Is that actually 'in service' or is it part of the 'heritage' set up. OT I've just learnt that Zagan is where Stalag L III was (Great Escape fame).

thanks Trofi.

Phil

Zagan is the location of Stalag L3, it's a tourist spot, you can view the tunnel's locations / routes.

AFAIK there is no longer any working steam in Poland (all including Wolsztyn) is now for tourists.

 

Working 'freight' steam is now Bosnia in Europe - the s100s and a few BR52s, or fireless locomotives in eastern parts of Germany.

Plenty of preserved steam in various countries across europe however.

Thanks although not sure I understand the first part of your answer. 

 

Not sure why I said 1930s   I am not that time line specific! Anything from the Big 4 days. 

 

I wasnt sure if you were modelling UK, Europe or US (or even North Africa) :-)

The S100 (USA) class has a quite few different passport stamps :-): UK, France, Greece, Netherlands, Egypt, Palestine, Iraq, Croatia, Slovenia Bosnia, Italy, Morocco, Tunisia, Balkans, China, USA.. if you happen to be close to various steel works near Tuzla in Bosnia... you might even find a few in steam shunting daily now. There is also a close-ish relative to the class in Poland (Tkh class industrial shunters).  There's approx 25% of the fleet still in existence worldwide.

 

This is a pretty good list, but there's one or two more yet to be added.

http://www.project62.supanet.com/locolocation.htm

 

However in the UK... in the Big 4 era...

 

if your into Southern or GWR region post c1942 then USATC  - catalog number MR-101,

From post war 1947 then Southern livered - MR-102

NCB / LMR would fit post war, non-Mainline use. - MR-105 & MR-107

 

of course it's your layout.. so anything you chose can go... MR-108 could always be an industrial :-)

 

MR101 / 5 & 7 use the tooling that represents the class "as built" in the US with small coal bunker, flimsy steps and less cab visibility (circular windows and non-glass windows on the sides), MR102 uses the rebuilt cab with square glass windows, larger coal capacity amongst other differences.

 

Finally tested mine today... it's got some good strength for haulage and runs a treat, going to be planning a 10 coach double headed railtour with them running bunker to bunker soon :-)

I have to question if Lima ever made one of these locos. It does not appear in Ramsay's British Model Trains Catalogue.

For sale in Hattons's product database..

 

(With pictures, but I really only reccomend clicking the link after 9pm, for those of an older age, with a fetish for horror stories)

 

http://www.hattons.co.uk/154427/Lima_L320252_U_Class_4MT_2_6_4T_80033_in_BR_Black_Pre_owned_wrong_box/StockDetail.aspx

 

This Lima model would be a candidate for the Top Gear piano.

Are any of these suitable for an 80s era?

 

Maybe going with the TC US Army for my 30s layout ?

 

Regards

Scott

 

1980's UK / Western Europe would be for any preserved layout, though OO would only be for a UK layout, for South Eastern Europe they still are in industrial service in Bosnia, even today. Several are preserved in the US also, with Granite Stone 10 recently overhauled in Sacramento.

 

For 1930's, unfortunately not, this is a child of war.

It's great to see the MSC being modelled ! ... There's an MSC peckett to follow too.

 

Hopefully at some point the canal tanks will be modelled (hudswell clarke), of which 31,32,69,70 and 685 survive !

ok not in the UK, but not a bridge too far.. for this thread

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Station_Eindhoven_interieur.jpg

Currently sat next to platform four getting ready for the trip out tomorrow morning, a beautiful sight. I'll post here some of the better photos I took on my phone, I've yet to get the ones off the proper camera and they'll be too large to post tonight.

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It really was a lovely sight, Braunton is great but it's nice to see something other than that come down here for a change

 

Lizzie got a new nameplate ?

After a bit of drama today ( I went to the loft only to find the neighbours builders had knocked a brick thru the wall and on to my layout burying my Bachmann Prairie L150 in dust and cement whilst knocking the glazing from my canopy and several supports off, in several places (it's a 4 piece Peco one laid out e2e, thus protecting what was below)  scattering wagons and crushing the roof of a Hong Kong tram, so my planned running of my new USAs got canned) ! Sigh.


I did however take a couple of comparison pictures of my HO vs OO USA tanks... Oh so unfair to compare, but it shows size matters ! Am awaiting the Roco S160 to be released next.

 

 

The yellow J94 stands out a bit doesn't it :-)

 

 

Is there a reason why they are pale brown on the outside of the wooden extensions, but dark on the inside ?

I have rocket motors in my bedroom ....

 

 

I find this line a bit worrisome :-)

And after your finished with the model railway rainhill trials.... you can always wrap up with a Bachmann Gandy Dancer.

 

http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_181

I've spotted one minor discrepancy with 'out of the box' No.68 : it's got the Southern whistle rather than the original version they all carried into B.R. days .................. not visible from normal viewing distance of course !

One of the differences in my two above..(post 565) . Is the whistle... 2 different types..

 

Such a subtle small detail..., hardly noticeable but still replicated.

 

The detail differences i observed are:

 

1. Different whistle

2. Different safety valves

3. Looks like a sanding cap, next to the water tank hatch on the left side tank on '67

4. Extra pipe work between the two domes on '67

5. Extra pipe work below the cab on both sides (x2)

6. Step vs platform on both sides covering the smokebox steam pipes (x2)

7. Grab Handles vs vertical pipes on the tanks (x2)

 

Looking at 30064 vs DS237 there's differences in paint finish around the buffer beams and the safety valves.

(although I haven't bought it, the USATC version is completely different, with a different cab, bunker, steps etc).. That is also used on the LMR and NCB versions also)..

Spot the difference time...

I've got 7 (technically 10) tooling differences spotted just in these 2 views of 30069 vs 30067...(excluding the logo or number)

Fantastic levels of detail, I can spot differences between DS237 and 30064 too....
Bachmanns surpassed themselves on these... even the works plates on 30067 and 30069 reflect the differing works numbers !



It's play time !

They are most likely accumulating all 4 into one parcel. It is more efficient to whack out individual locos, but things risk going wrong if you start mixing multi orders with single units. The last thing you want is to be charged 4 and get 1!

How right you were,.. All 4 of mine arrived safely this morning, including MR 110 (DS237)..

 

Patience (and Kernow) have rewarded me...

 

On haulage.

 

I wish I could remember which article it was to quote exactly, but one of the Lancashire collieries had its exchange sidings at the top of a steep hill on the BR line, with a steeper gradient up from the sidings to the colliery. Class 37s used to struggle up the bank and arrive at the sidings, whereupon the WD saddletank would remove the brake van and breeze off up the steeper line to the pit with the whole of the rest of the train.

 

I can't remember whether it was this pit or one of the Yorkshire ones where BR diesels occasionally needed assistance from the pit loco, which were registered for running over the main line.

 

Les

Bickershaw ? Perhaps. The line came out by Springs Branch shed in Wigan.

Hattons' Hurricane is a Bickershaw J94.

 

I've seen somewhere a J94 pushing MGRs and a pair of Blue 20's in the early 1980's.

Omg...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R2986-A-Date-With-The-Duchy-Limited-Edition-of-1000-/252512806426?hash=item3acaefa61a:g:8M4AAOSwMtxXvxQf

 

Make sure you don't accidentally buy it now.

They are most likely accumulating all 4 into one parcel. It is more efficient to whack out individual locos, but things risk going wrong if you start mixing multi orders with single units. The last thing you want is to be charged 4 and get 1!

 

Actually i'm more worried the "hattons" pre-order approach.. I wait for the 4th and find the other 3 have gone !

I'm still waiting for any of my 4 on order (30064, 30067, 30069 and DS237).
My credit card details are correct, I've had an order from both MRO and Kernow in the past few months, I know there busy, I got my yellow J94 in 48 hrs, I don't want to bug them, but.....

Well I expect there will be new models and livery's for 2017 and probably for 2018 as well, like they did with the Sentinel.

 

At the 2017and 2018 post-Brexit price.

I'm actually thinking there's a nice sideline in the screw fit nem coupling pockets too...

I could do with more than a couple of these.

If I want to put an NEM coupling to a US NMRA fitting this could be just the trick.

Pity you then.

Haven't found and Railway cuttings here, but I did find this 18th century poem on Cheams wiki page, Not sure about Croydon though.

 

"Sutton for good mutton;

Cheam for juicy beef;

Croydon for a pretty girl

And Mitcham for a thief"

Just read the article and suspect it's a typo.

It's in the "deliveries coming thick and fast" section amongst all the already announced stuff due soon for delivery.

A nice surprise if it is.

Yours,Disgusted of East Cheam...

We must be neighbours.

I get the impression these travelled.

I'm sure I have a picture of these (or something very similar to) at Clapham Junction and East Croydon in middleton press books at home.

 

edit: here's one at Clapham Junction, should keep the LBSC E4 entertained.

http://lnwrs.zenfolio.com/p450235283/h5F0C012D#h5f0c012d

Hi John,

Great question and one I cover quite often during presentations I give around the country.

The pieces of pie are getting smaller, meaning that we are all looking for something that will sell enough to cover costs and make profit.

That's not an easy thing to do nowadays.

Bachmann, have wisely decided that by going for 3rd rail and pantograph models that they can perhaps ignite that previously ignored sector of the market. 10 years ago we wouldn't have considered either as mainstream models based of empirical evidence from manufacturers. However, I suppose if you throw money at a project and keep at it, you can ignite interest and subsequently sales.

This leaves interesting times in that there are a limited amount of loco's and perhaps profitable EMU's, so you look elsewhere........009? O? Underground? Or if your particularly bullish, a competitors loco........western, 24, 71, 86, 87, 90 etc.

Looking at a competitors range and analyzing the model correctly, will let you understand if there is a market to through 120K plus at an upgraded clone of an existing model.

If a range is getting old, and a company lives on the fact that the tooling is long paid for, and charges customers big bucks for a loco, is, in the short term fine, but plane have to be in place for said company to upgrade and / or renew that model.

So really anything is game and nothing is really safe anymore. And I still maintain that the number of companies in UK model railways will shrink, although quite when I can't put a date on.

The market is finite, redevelopment is finite, choice of new models is finite, choice of old models to redevelop before the competition does is finite................ It's just a matter of time.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Dave

Industrials.... (Hornbys peckett seems to be selling well in advance orders)...

Colourful, psychologically right priced, always room for a couple, crosses several time periods, well represented in preservation, largest gap in the market when it comes to selection / availability, less risky in an uncertain economy..(they are smaller / cheaper than a tender loco).

 

Maybe a comparison of BR vs non-BR sales of J94s might be an indicator ?

 

The obvious one to my mind is an 0-4-0 Andrew Barclay (and a crane tank version of it being really adventurous).