250BOB

Well what do you know, it worked! Thanks!

Glad to be of help....nice vids too.!!!

Bob.

Hi Bob

 

Thanks, yes that's what I'm doing. In You tube below the video I'm clicking share, then embed and selecting the code that appears in the box, copying and pasting straight into the post. This seems to be how you tube instructs you to do it, is there different there to how you do it?

 

Thanks

Dan

Hi Dan

I dont do it that way........when I have the video up on my you tube home page. I click on it to run, so that the link for it comes up at the top of the page, in the line that begins

https://www.youtube....etc etc

I then right click on the link to highlight it, then click the word copy in the drop down box.

I then just paste it in my post on a thread.

Hope that helps.

Bob.

Hattons are moving then...????

I understand that the shop in Smithdown Road and the warehouse in Widnes are moving to one new business premises in Speke, close to Liverpool airport, and only 5 mins walk from Hunts Cross station on the mersey rail system.

I think the move is planned for about September...ish.

Logistically....this must be a real plus for their operation.   The stock in place where the shop is.  When you go to the shop currently, to buy an item that is showing in stock on their website.....you cant have it there and then sometimes, because its in the warehouse in Widnes.

Good move Hattons.

Ok, I've tried all sorts of things and I just can't seem to get this video to embed! Where am I going wrong? I've tried it in internet explorer, firefox, new code, old code. It just pastes the code and no video appears. Help!!

When I post you tube clips....it is just a simple matter of copying the link and putting in your post....thats all I do.

Is that what you are doing.??

Bob

Bob,

eight years over 59 I regret to say.

 

Regards, Derek.

You're ok then at that age...you're safe......like me.

Bob

I've been pretty lucky in Fernie, Canada, in that my order generally only takes a week. Last year I had the option of having my parcel sent to my wife who was on the Wirral at the time, or to me, over here in BC. It was £4 to the Wirral and £3 to western Canada.

 

My idea of a box shifter is a company that does just that. Shifts boxes of goods with bad, or at best, no customer service. I tend to call Hattons with my order, and they couldn't be nicer.

 

I don't work for them by the way

Wow......Fernie......I remember staying there one night in a camper van about 10 years ago...............big ski ing area if i remember.

Travelling down from Banff on our way to Yellowstone.

Bob

Called in for some paint last Friday and the staff were very friendly. There was a cracking looking young lady on the counter and she went out of her way to say hello. She was just being nice and  friendly as she looked about 47 years my junior, so unless she is Crackers or needs to go to Specsavers  it was nothing to do with fancying me. :laugh:

I hope you are over about 59, or else you are in trouble...!!!!!!

Likewise.A decision reinforced by my first "sighting".See post 814 above.

Yes, I did notice that Ian....and do share your thoughts .

I did think about a lightly weathered version, then having it more heavily professionally weathered by a friend who does weathering for me to a good standard.  Some very heavily weathered locos I have seen, are sometimes a bit over the top for my liking........I'm a bit undecided on this one.

Bob. 

Availability..............its been a few weeks now that the first two versions have been on sale.   Hattons still showing both released versions, 266201 and 266202, in stock.

So........how many of these first two versions have been made......and are they probably not the most popular versions.??

I did ask the question on a previous post.....but does anyone have any thoughts on how many each of all 12 versions are likely to be made.

I am going to wait until the heavily weathered versions are available before I take the plunge.

Bob

Which one of us could give a considered opinion on the"authentic"sound of it in any case? I am well past my sell-by date and was around at the time but never saw one.

I was about 9 when the last one went..............dont know if I saw one or not either.....its possible, but unlikely as a Crewe lad........spotting properly didnt kick until I went to the Grammar school aged about 11/12.

All 4 driving wheels have pickups and one wheel on each of the front and rear trucks is live to the axle which has a wiper on as seen in the pics, so pickup is from 6 wheels. If you take the wheels out make sure you replace them the right way round.

Got it..!!

Thanks Pete....I'll pass the info to my mate, his loco is not running well at all.

Bob

Stripped down my 2nd loco that wasn't picking up from the front and rear trucks and adjusted the wipers. I am surprised there has not been anyone else on with this problem, or maybe they have not yet noticed.

 

L&Y 2-4-2 a.jpg

 

Pickup wipers are flat...

L&Y 2-4-2 b.jpg

 

...and would be nowhere near the axle

L&Y 2-4-2 c.jpg

 

After adjustment

L&Y 2-4-2 d.jpg

 

Also removed the 6 pin socket as it had these gubbins underneath and will hardwire in a decoder...

L&Y 2-4-2 e.jpg

Sorry, but I am coming in a bit late on this thread, and may have missed some earlier information.

Do I understand that this loco picks up power from both the driving axles and both the pony axles as well.?? i.e. all four axles.??

Thanks...Bob.

Hi Jim,

How come you get to drop the loco off at the Electric depot in Wistaston Road...??   Just a short walk up past Queens Park, and your home.!!

I used to serve petrol as a 16 year old at the garage in Stewart Street, just down from the depot entrance.

Bob.

I can clearly see this model is proving very popular, would any one know approximately how many models are being produced of each of the 12 variants.? Or a grand total for that matter.?

Because I can Bob, I normally use standard and Silver, but such a magnificent beast deserves better.

And why not indeed..!!!

For a non sound chip it will be a Lenz Gold, but I am hoping someone will produce a sound chip quite soon.

Why not a Lenz Standard+ or a Lenz Silver+.....?

Bob.

I have to say, the Garratt was completely OFF my radar untill this damn thread here on RMweb..!!

And especially again those damn (good) pictures Rob keeps posting.

And now ANDY throws in some more damn (good) pictures .

OK OK........I admit defeat....but how can anyone possibly resist the temptation having seen the pictures and read the reviews on RMweb.

This thread has been better than any advertising that Heljan or Hattons could have done on this loco.

Bob

I e-mailed Hattons on this very point.They don't know either !!

Thanks Ian,

Just been reading the Hattons description again.......I am noticing that on model 266211, it says " no pony brake".

Would this be worth the effort to produce a completely separate model I wonder......or just an excuse to produce two heavily weathered models for extra sales.

I must admit that having never seen one as a youngster, only aged 8 in 1956, they have been a little off my radar as a purchase.  But not any longer.....the reviews, pictures etc on here are doing a damned good job of prising my wallet open.....needless to say, it would be a 266211 or 266208 I would be interested in.

Bob.

Could I ask for a bit of help on understanding the minor differences between models 266208 and 266211, both the heavily weathered versions.   I know the running numbers are different.!!!!!!!

Thanks....Bob.

Stick around Garrattman........that review you have done is a real asset to this forum.

Thankyou..........................Bob.

Hi 7013, on both occasions I returned a loco to Hattons they paid for the postage without my asking them to, its part of their normal service 

So Hattons pay for three lots of postage then....????

1. First despatch

2. Return postage

3. Replacement despatch.

Doesnt sound much for one event...................but when that starts to multiply, its not long before there is a problem.

My family business spends £1000 a month with a courier......if half those items were retuned for replacement, it would double to £2000

Now imagine if your postage costs are initially considerably more like Hattons are........then the increase in cost for returns and replacements begins to get out of hand and unsustainable.

I think many customers would want exactly the opposite, actually. A sealed box, factory fresh, is as "new" as you can get it. Even getting some locos and stock out of the packaging, let alone replacing it, can cause minor damage. The shop risks actually causing damage, so is by no means certain to want to do this, anyway. Quality control is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not the shop.

But who is footing the postage costs for returns etc.,  I think perhaps most people would prefer it thoroughly checked before despatch....although you are right to say it is the manufacturers responsibility. 

Can the likes of Hattons send the likes of Bachmann etc., a bill for unnecessary postage costs incurred I wonder.??

Although how many locos do hattons despatch daily........a quick five minute quick check of each loco.....say they are despatching 50 locos a day.?

That alone is going to take an extra person to be employed to do this every day.......thats quite a cost.

Hat tons are excellent on returns, I've sent 2 engines back in the past - no problem

But with all the recent Bachmann, Hornby and now Heljan issues.........returns just might start to become a problem for Hattons, because of the volume involved (the costs).??

Yes,I did and it was woeful! Must get round to re motoring....sometime.

You've prompted me into doing something about it now. Could you tell me which Mashima and where you sourced it ? Would be grateful.

 

 

I'll get the info out later Ian.......my wife just demanded my attention for the shopping trip.......perhaps better I PM you, rather than hi jacking this thread.

Bob.

To which I will add that Heljan are the consistently best runners taken all-round.

What did you think of the Clayton, if you bought one.....????  I gave up with the fitted motor, after being sent a replacement to fit by Howes and that failing too, I bought a Mashima motor, fitted it myself, and continues to run perfectly.

Otherwise my Heljan locos too, are also pretty good runners....the lights are not reliable on occasions.

But then again............diesels seem to be more reliable generally, than steam locos, so I think that is fair to say that Heljan had less to go wrong perhaps....but of course Heljan have yet to prove themselves in the UK steam area.....however thats all about to change with the Beyer Garrett of course....lets watch this space.

The only stop i had en-route was in the platform at leicester purely to stop and use the loo as it was getting a bit touch and go (or touch 'n' cloth) which is where i got the picture

 

 

Sounds as if this was a "Big Job" then Jim...???