drduncan

Absolutely fantastic modelling. Extremely effective and atmospheric.

Duncan

P4 chassis with EM wheels!!!! Heresy!!!!!! Heresy!!!! Burn the heretic!!!!!!  The P4 mafia will have you excommunicated, your collection of S4 Society newsletters will be shredded before your eyes and then the heavy mob will be sent round to carry out a full audit of number and location of rivets applied to locos.  Someone contact MRJ!  Oh wait a minute....

[EMers (and I think Martin Goodall who I believe wrote THAT article in MRJ) will probably shrug their shoulders and go ‘if it works fill yer boots.’]

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Hi Nick,

Is it the same one as in the back of the Gloucester wagons book?  Any chance you could pm scans of them?

You also might be interested in my 3D workbench thread where I’ve done a BG version: 

Regards,

Duncan

16 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

Aha, more goodies to follow!

 

 

Very nice, I like the informative captions. I now have to ask a question that has been a bit foggy in my mind: Is there a relationship between superheating and chimney position? 

 

 

Thanks for posting that, I first saw it some time ago and decided that if I were ever to build a diorama, this would be it! But I've forgotten where the photo is featured (ie what source). Any hints?

 

I think it is the replacement of the bridge across Clement St/High St/Old Warwick Road in Leamington Spa.

Duncan

From the passenger’s clothing it has an Edwardian feel.  Was that your era when you you did 4mm?

Duncan

6 hours ago, Mikkel said:

 

No particular plan to do that, but it has always been at the back of my mind as something to try out and it becomes so much easier to relate to (and make a decision on) when you can see what it involves in practice. For example I had been wondering how tenders were addressed, and Duncan nicely illustrates that.

 

And you can get ready to run EM gauge points now...courtesy of the EMGS!

The best bit of advice I was given about EM or P4 - and it’s the only thing I’d offer as advice to anyone thinking about taking the plunge is irrespective of your interests, buy a cheap 2nd hand diesel, fit ultrascale drop in replacement wheel sets and bingo you’ve got something to test your track (and play with) while you get on with converting/building your stock.  
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44 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:

How good to see someone taking the time and trouble to de-mystify this whole process!

 

I model in both OO and P4 and have had some run-ins with OO RTR chassis in the past. I gave up trying to re-assemble a Bachmann Standard Class 3 2-6-2T chassis a few years ago (still in OO). It would have been a waste of time anyway, because I couldn't identify the cause of the poor running. I actually found it easier and less hassle to build a replacement etched chassis for the loco (modified a Comet 2-6-0 chassis). Same with a Bachmann 64XX chassis more recently (although I didn't bother dismantling that, I just put it to one side and rang High Level).

 

For P4, for anything other than a very basic 0-4-0 or 0-6-0, I'm sufficiently put off the whole conversion process to prefer to go straight to an etched chassis.

 

But good luck with the complicated, gesticulating valve gear!

 

Thanks!

I confess I enjoy making chassis (I have a large number ‘in progress’ to prove this), in fact the only RTR conversions using their original chassis I have in my EM collection are a City of Truro (completed), and a Star (in progress).  All the ones in the blog post above were for other people. 
 

Just now, Mikkel said:

Very nice Duncan, many thanks for taking the trouble to de-mystify this!

 

You had me when you shifted from theory to practice, that's what it's really about.

 

The extra pics turn up if you do a save before having inserted them in the text first. To delete them, go into edit mode and delete them manually from the end of the text (*not* from the list of uploaded files) with your keyboard's back or delete button.

 

Ah. Once son no 2 stops trying to climb all over me I’ll give it a try...

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1 hour ago, Brassey said:

I'd be temped to bush them maybe using pointed axle wagon bearings if they fit.

They certainly needed bushing of which more in part 2 (or maybe 3)

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7 hours ago, Brassey said:

The holes on those Hornby J15 rods look massive!  AG crankpins are 1.5mm; I think Ultrascale are the same.

 

I not aware that the S4Society do conversion sheets though articles do appear in the magazine and forum.  This is probably because received wisdom is to compensate everything.

 

Peter

Peter,

They are massive - and we’ll meet some of the joys this can throw up later after I’ve gone through the delights of getting the wheels in some sort of order!

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I have no idea why additional copies of images used in this post (and one unused one) have appeared at the end.

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Mikkel,

EM is usually much easier than P4 (especially with outside cylinders etc) (and I’m not just saying it because I do EM; although there is an EM perseverance 43xx chassis on the bench that is being difficult - I can’t see how Ian Rice managed to build one in P4 and get the thing to work...and the 28xx saga is definitely an exception to prove the rule) and the process in theory is straightforward for either.  If you are a builder rather than a driver then either is worth thinking about but EM is probably ahead in the game thanks to RTR track via the EM Gauge Society...

[And going through my records it seems I’ve done more P4 conversions than EM for other people...]

You’ve also pricked my conscience about conversions on RM web and  I’ll try to do something about that when I can...

Duncan

Mike ,

The shed scene is wonderful and the Armstrong Goods is looking very impressive.

Merry Christmas 

Duncan

Mikkel,

A fantastic set of wagons.  I really must finish mine...

Duncan

Very nice work Dave,

Duncan

Also are the bolts on the frames bolts or rivets? They look rather tall.

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What height are you extruding your rivets to? I use 0.25mm above the surface and then use the chamfer tool at 0.125mm to round off the extruded cylinder.

D

Good heavens that’s good!

Duncan

Yet another inspirational and informative post.  Many thanks.

Duncan

Gone on, do it.  The BG version is rather handsome to my eye.  Certainly Broad and narrow gauge Standard goods are on the intended loco roster for Nampara but I think rule one will have to be used as I don’t think the BG version made it past Plymouth and 0–6-0 tender engines will be rather overkill for a branchline c1891...

DrD

Love the Gooch goods!

D

Mike,

Your explorations are always inspirational.

Duncan

Lovely work!

D

Is a straight framed County on the cards too?

DrDuncan