robertcwp

Here are a few formations. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32711444/Articles/Thames-Clyde-Express_Notes_17-7-13.pdf

A recent second-hand purchase, but looking a bit out of place alongside c1980 stock: P1070427am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr A Swindon cross-country unit, converted from a Lima 117 using the Craftsman kit. It has been done exactly from the kit, so the roof vents are not quite the right shape and there is no vent-axia or similar over the buffet, but I'm not inclined to change either as the standard of the finish is so high.

I disagree. I have purchased around 5,000 images with rights to future use or transfer of copyright ad a cost that I would rather not add up. I could keep them to myself but instead I have built a Flickr site which has now had almost 4 million hits. Not only can others see the images, they are used extensively on this forum (BB code is available so anyone can post them here) and elsewhere as a reference point for modellers and historians. I also use them in articles I write and have made them available (free of charge) to various societies of which I am a member. Occasionally some are published in books or magazines, for which I receive a small payment, but that is incidental. The Flickr images are watermarked to give some protection against others ripping them off (see discussion above). For similar reasons, I spend a fortune on carriage working books (nearly 600 original books so far) and then give away copies for free to anyone who wants them, having agreed this some years ago with the now-defunct BRB (Residuary) Limited. There are people who buy images and paper railwayana just so that they have them and no one else does. They may want to make money by selling images or allowing reproduction for a fee. Or they may want them for books. Or to show off their knowledge in societies and forums - I can think of a few people like that regarding carriage workings for example. Or for their own selfish self-satisfaction at keeping them to themselves. For me, it's about sharing and helping other modellers. The copyright/right to use area is very complicated but many of the images I have purchased are either source unknown or have come from people who have sold them with rights to use and have confirmed that to me directly, including David Ford who posts on this site, Gerald T Robinson and others. Lots of others have come from estates via dealers who have purchased them with all rights then sold them on.

I have had a similar thing with people lifting the ebay image and posting it. I note that ebay sellers are increasingly watermarking the images on their listing. I've more-or-less given up on bidding for hydraulic images as such. I'm really interested mainly in train shots and often more for the stock than the loco. Some people complain about the watermarks but this shows why they are there. Anyone who wants to can post my images on other sites where the BB code works, as it does on RMWeb. A few of my images have appeared in books or articles and a few more are on the way.

I saw that too but it was way too expensive. I already have lots of hydraulic images, which may be found in the following Flickr albums: Class 14: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjbMXFhc Classes 22 and 35: https://flic.kr/s/aHsiTCJ8yB Classes 41 and 43: https://flic.kr/s/aHsiUgJsNJ Class 42: https://flic.kr/s/aHsiTCimLs Class 52: https://flic.kr/s/aHsiTCiSPC

Lots of CCE formations in these notes: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32711444/Articles/Cambrian_Coast_Express_Notes_15-10-13.pdf

And another: AM3_036_GlasgowC_8-3-67 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Here is another one: W50678_SotonC_Portsmouth-Cardiff_10-6-67 by robertcwp, on Flickr

I wonder if anyone can identify this driver: D1040_NewtonAbbot_9-7-75 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Railway Observer for February 1974 has the answer concerning 7437 as it notes that the unit was running with blue-liveried S76730 on cab signalling tests.

The headcode change from 1C45 to 1B65 in May 1971, then to 1B45 in May 1972 when the departure time moved from 10:30 to 11:30.

On the Underground, R Stock liveries were complex. The vast majority of cars, including most of the R49 aluminium ones, were red to start with. One car was turned out experimentally in unpainted aluminium finish and the cars it ran with were painted silver to match. The original unpainted car is second in this set, all others being painted steel cars: R_Silver_SouthKen_2-9-58 by robertcwp, on Flickr Some R49 stock was turned out to form a complete set in unpainted aluminium. The later R59 cars were also unpainted and ran with silver-painted R38 driving cars (which were steel and were converted from Q stock trailers). When silver was standardised as the livery, the painted cars were initially painted in an aluminium colour but it was either too expensive or did not wear well, hence the shift to a very pale grey which looked off-white, although the unpainted cars remained thus, including the R49 driving motor which is preserved at the LT Museum Depot in Acton. Thus, the final painted livery was an off-white/light grey colour. Here is a mixed set: R38_21144_StamfordBrook_25-7-74 by robertcwp, on Flickr The odd car is there because of the reformation of R stock in 1971 whereby some west end four car units were increased to five by using a car moved across from another set that was reduced to three. This was when 8-car trains were abandoned and 7-car became standard.

Mixed formations happened from time to time. I think there might have been a unit that was half-CIG and half-Vep at one time, possibly numbered 7700.

And this one: 4-PEP_HamptonCourt_Jun-76 by robertcwp, on Flickr

The summer non-stop changed over from TO/RK/FO to TO/RF in 1952, the last year in which it was 'The Capitals Limited'. An extract from the 1952 carriage workings is in this article, which covers the formation for each year of the post-war non-stop, including 1962, when it did in fact stop at Newcastle, although initially only for a crew change.

1935 flat-ended units ran in red then later in painted silver livery although not in mixed sets. 1935-Stock_Ongar_22-5-65 by robertcwp, on Flickr The shade of red changed too as 1938 Stock that received an extra-heavy overhaul ran in bus red rather than the more traditional train red, the latter being a bit darker. I recall a 4 EPB running in the 1980s with three in blue/grey and one in blue (a trailer). See also this photo on Flickr: https://flic.kr/p/ooEGBy Mixed livery DMUs were common and there were also mixed livery DEMUs, and even mixed livery Blue Pullmans. 3R_1202_DorkingTown_6-78 by robertcwp, on Flickr Blue Pullman Paddington 5.69 by George of Dufton, on Flickr

From a combination of WTTs and Chronicles of Napier website: 1A37, summer '64 – SX was 1240 Newcastle-King's Cross but was 10.10 from Edinburgh on Saturdays, which may be when the photo was taken. Unless you have an exact date, cross-checking to the carriage workings may help 1B24, summer '67 – 1632 SX Doncaster-King's Cross 1E04, spring '63 – 0722 Bradford-King's Cross (0747 ex-Leeds). 1B66, summer '68 – usually Cambridge Buffet Express 1A13, spring '64 – 0745 Sunderland-King's Cross 1L59, spring '64 – 1605 King's Cross-Cleethorpes 2B66, summer '64/'65 – Cambridge stopping 1A31, summer '67 – 1200 Edinburgh-King's Cross (but 1035 Newcastle-King's Cross on Summer Sundays) 1A30, spring '64 – 1400 King's Cross-Edinburgh (The Heart of Midlothian) 1E10, spring '64 – 1139 Bradford-King’s Cross (1214 ex-Leeds) 1A03, spring '64 – 0750 Newcastle-King's Cross 3B14, spring '63 – cannot identify but the formation might identify which train the stock worked if it is Pullman Cars as each train was very distinctive 2B65, spring '64 – King’s Cross-Hitchin/Baldock/Royston or return 2B66, spring '68 (2B66 in 1965 was gangwayed stock; this is non-corridor) - King’s Cross-Cambridge or return stopping 1A66, spring '62 – 2020 King’s Cross-Edinburgh 1G60, spring '64 - a Pullman – 1120 King’s Cross-Sheffield Victoria 1N10, spring '61 – my King’s Cross Suburban WTT does not list the headcodes 1B06, spring '62 – might be an incorrect code as there was a 2B06 Peterborough-King’s Cross and a 1B07 (also from Peterborough) and a Sunday 1B08 from Grantham. 1E36, 'spring '67 – cannot find this for either 1966-7 Winter or 1967-8 timetables, the latter of which commenced on 6 March. 1E08, summer '62 – up Yorkshire Pullman, SX: 0956 Harrogate-King’s Cross (1004 ex-Bradford, 1034 ex-Leeds); SO: 1037 ex-Harrogate, 1047 ex-Bradford, 1117 ex-Leeds (formation will identify whether it was the SX or SO working) 1E10, spring '64 – 1139 Bradford-King’s Cross (1214 ex-Leeds) 1N21, autumn '63 – 1520 King’s Cross-Leeds/Bradford 1L60, summer '63 - Kings +-Cleethorpes – 1850 King’s Cross-Cleethorpes (1830 on Sundays) 1A01, spring '63 – 0743 York-King’s Cross

Although trains to Cambridge became P in the mid-1970s.

Chronicles of Napier is a good source for East Coast Class 1 headcodes: http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/report.htm Until the codes all changed in May 1969, A was an East Coast express, so typically King's Cross-Newcastle or beyond (even numbers down, odd numbers up seems to have been the system). B was for trains from within the ER to the King's Cross district. King's Cross-West Riding trains were N and in the up direction were E, as they were going to the NER and to the ER respectively. Lots of codes changed in March 1967. In 1963/4 Winter, the up Master Cutler Pullman was 1B20 and the untitled later up working of the stock - unofficially referred to as the Sheffield Pullman - was 1B21. The down trains were 1G60 ('Sheffield Pullman') and 1G61 (Master Cutler Pullman). I have some WTTs from the 1960s and most of the King's Cross ones for the 1970s too so can probably answer most questions about headcodes. As headcodes are not 100% reliable, cross-checking against other sources such as carriage workings is advisable for the passenger trains.

GWR Siphon Gs, which came in lots of varieties. W1047 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Be careful about roof details - not all Class 43s were the same - note absence of prominent raised roof fan grilles: 833_Reading_7-8-71_m by robertcwp, on Flickr IIRC of Class 42, 832 (preserved), 866 and 867 had the raised grilles.

1B14 was the 1445 (SX) Paddington-Bristol, formed with the stock of the 1115 Bristol-Paddington and before that the 0845 Paddington-Bristol, which had been The Bristolian until it lost its name. This set did not have a BG but had an extra FK at the London end instead, as illustrated. Sometimes, there was a fourth FK too.

That makes more sense. If the headcode should be 1B13 then it would be the 1345 Paddington-Bristol and the formation would be correct for the Saturday train. Clearly a later shot than this one as the telegraph poles have disappeared: D1010_ThingleyJ by robertcwp, on Flickr

D1032 at Clink Road Junction in 1969 is a bit of an oddity as Mark 2a/b air-braked stock was not regularly on the West of England line at the time. The formation is mainly Mark 2b stock and looks like a Bristol/South Wales set from around 1969-70 when the BFK was marshalled next to the BG. If it is heading for London, the set is back to front as the BG was usually at the Bristol End. The formation is approximately BG, BFK, 4 TSO, RB, FO, 2 FK, TSO (this looks to be a Mark 2a). I cannot find a 1A13 in the 1969-70 Paddington Station Workings book. It was a Swansea or Fishguard-Paddington train in May 1971. Edit 1A13 was the up South Wales Pullman in 1969-70 - 0700 Swansea-Paddington.

Here's a Warship and failed 33: D839_D6522-failed_BathGoods_5-11-68 by robertcwp, on Flickr