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A couple more Harton electrics: Harton-ER_Westoe_No9 by robertcwp, on Flickr Harton-ER_Westoe_No2 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Thanks, that's the idea.

8 sets, each of which gives two pieces of wall. It's out of stock at Bachmann and the 8 I have came from two different places. The bridge brickwork will need to be painted dark blue-grey to match. I need to build the rest of the bridge first though.

Almost forgot, the 8' 6" (ish) of walling at the back of the station is also new. That was the easy (if expensive) bit as it's Bachmann Scenecraft.

The layout was under an Engineer's Possession this weekend. New road bridge under construction. This is a trial assembly of the construction so far: P1070006am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1070013am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1070012am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1070011am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1070010am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1070009am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Still another pier to construct, then the girders and stanchions to sort out, then the separate structure that is going at the back of the layout, then paint and finish it all including a road surface etc.

Unfortunately I have never seen a copy of the original 1948 announcement on experimental liveries. The contemporary journals were divided on the issue of split v spilt with Railway Observer going one way and Trains Illustrated the other. Perhaps the real question is how did R A Riddles refer to the livery at the time? As an ex-LNWR man, he might have been behind it. He was the instigator of the BR lined black mixed traffic livery (basically the old LNWR livery).

I read somewhere that "spilt milk" was used as a derogatory term for the old LNWR colour by ex-Midland Railway men in LMS days.

I paid a visit this afternoon and agree with these comments. I put my name down for a couple limited edition CCTs in maroon and a couple in blue. I passed on the limited edition D5000 though as the Bachmann model is not really close to the pilot scheme batch in terms of detail accuracy.

This may be of interest: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32711444/Articles/1948_liveries_28-9-11.pdf

There is a thread on the layout here.

I finally managed to buy a 5243 at the Bluebell Collectors' Fair a couple of weeks ago. A stand had two of them. I think it's a pretty good model straight out of the box. Here it is on its first outing: P1060860as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr P1060861as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr The train it is hauling is almost 8' long.

Here are some photos from today: Bachmann Austerity - now one of the longest-serving steam models still in the active fleet: P1060892as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr One of the first batch of Bachmann Warships - D817. This batch sat too low on their bogies, hence the bar being more or less in line with the top of the buffers instead of the middle. It runs superbly so I'm not altering it: P1060891as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr An LMS Compound - this is a bit out of period for the layout as it is at present but if it doesn't have an outing now, it won't have one for a couple of years at the current rate of change: P1060890as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Class 25s double-head an iron ore train, with brake tender: P1060887as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr One of the recent Bachmann 37s - headcode is York-Bournemouth via GC and the formation is correct for the train too, although in need of a set number on the BSKs (set 880): P1060886as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Bachmann Blue Pullman passing the loco depot: P1060884as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Bachmann have given us four types of DMU model in recent years but still we wait for a suburban unit! I repainted this Lima one in 1985 (yes, I know it's the wrong shade of green, but I didn't know that 28 years ago): P1060879as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Station scene with a pair of Derby Lightweights at platform 6: P1060878as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr A pair of Derby Lighweights approaching the station: P1060877as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr A look at a different part of the layout - the goods shed, with some newish Bachmann vans - I have now replaced all my old vans with the new Bachmann ones: P1060876as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Another different view - the end of the goods yard: P1060874as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr DMU depot and carriage sidings: P1060871as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Blue Pullman at Platform 5: P1060870as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr The station pilots - the Ivatt 2-6-2 tank is one of the longest-serving steam locos in the fleet and one of very few remaining with the old split chassis - this one runs well but only ever shuttles between sidings and station: P1060869as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Bachmann 03 in close-up: P1060868as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr And a Bachmann 08: P1060867as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Black 5 in the loco depot: P1060866as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr3 O1 - another slightly out of period loco having an outing: P1060865as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Heljan Class 14 - not the best of runners: P1060863as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 5205 Class tank, also a bit out of period but another new model so having an outing today: P1060861as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr The layout is overdue (by about a year) to move into the transition to blue/grey era.

I was hoping for lots of running over the past couple of weeks whilst I was on leave but it was too hot in the railway room. Worse still, I could not open the windows and blinds to let some air in until after 2.30 pm so as to avoid direct sunlight on layout and trains. Even at 9 pm one evening last week it was still pretty warm in there. I intend taking a few photos this weekend before I move the layout into the transition to blue/grey. No further developments on the layout (for ages now) as too many other things in life have intervened. I busied myself for several days in between watching the golf on TV putting sprat & winkle couplings on wagons and adding details to the new blue diesels and DMUs that have accumulated over the past couple of years. They still need more work though.

This one has an adaptor: Sleeper-ex-LMS_LeedsCity by robertcwp, on Flickr Note the extended faceplate at the top and the large clips so that the gangway could be clipped to a Pullman one.

Here is the buffet from 7003: S69002_Redhill_1979 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Now in service: P1060608as by Robert Carroll, on Flickr

I have spelled it out now. By the way, blue with full yellow ends is BFYE and with small yellow panel BSYP. I'd like to see the later end - the ones that had 4-character headcodes from the start, like this: D6334_GloucesterCentral by robertcwp, on Flickr The entire tension lock mounting simply unscrews and can be removed easily if you don't need the NEM boxes. One of the valances on mine would not stay in at all so it's now held in with a piece of blu-tack.

My foray into the latest batch of Class 22s - a green with no yellow panel (GNYP) one - got off to a bad start a week ago when my one failed after about two circuits of my layout and was sent back to Hattons, who exchanged it for another very promptly. The replacement underwent successful acceptance trials today and has now had its detailing added. The back-to-backs on mine seemed to be spot on.

A very impressive layout. Just went back to the start of the thread and realised it's the same size as my layout, though mine is never likely to be anywhere near the standard of this one.

Not all 4 Cep units had stretcher windows. The doors on the corridor side of a CK were arranged so that there was one directly opposite the compartment with the stretcher window. Later builds of Mark I CK had a less conspicuous design, like this: M16190_Carlisle_1978 by robertcwp, on Flickr

Thanks, I was wondering if there was any hard evidence from photos. I have seen one or two photos of lower numbered ones in unbranded LMS livery with the number in LMS style, but not beyond the first 25 or so. The unpainted sample I saw of one of the brakes appeared to have the sides quite deep but the windows looked to be the same height as on the non-brake vehicles. This appeared to be the case with the BFK on display at Alexandra Palace but there was no brake third there. I had a close look at the CK on display and it is clearly a different shape and the roof appears to be the 'Mark I' profile, which I believe actually originated with the LMS-designed porthole CK. Some images from Alexandra Palace: BFK on the left, then TK, then CK then FK: CK end view: BFK and TK: TK and CK:

Yes, sorry, missed that one. Do you think all of the first batch of CKs were in LMS livery without the LMS branding?

Correct. In fact there were I believe no post-war catering vehicles of LMS design other than conversions or rebuilds. However, the porthole FO vehicles would have been used for dining accommodation much of the time, often adjoining an RK with an open third also used for dining on the other side. The LMS, and BR (LMR) did not generally brand open stock used for dining as restaurant cars, apart from the token few Mark I RFO and RSO vehicles.

All appeared post-nationalisation but at least the first few CKs appeared in unbranded LMS livery.

If you are looking for LNER train formations, you may be interested in the publications available from the North Eastern Railway Association and the LNER Society. Both do copies of various carriage working books. https://sites.google.com/site/northeasternrailwayassoc/home/sales-facsimile-publication http://lnersociety.org.uk/index.php/publications The LNER Society list is slightly out of date as they have just published the East Coast workings for summer 1939 and December 1939, both from copies donated by me. You receive a one-third discount on publications if you are a member. There is more to come too. I'm a satisfied customer for the NER books and a member of the LNER Society. For the BR era, you will find lots of such books available in PDF via my Yahoo group - see link below. More to come soon as I shall be doing PDFs of the winter 1954-5 and summer 1959 GN Main Line Carriage Workings within the next week or two.